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InTheCosmos
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I want all of you to help me. Please help.
#18894082 - 09/26/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So guys I really want some input from ANYONE here. I hate to be "that guy", but I think I smoked some dirty weed. When I say dirty, I mean laced with something. Me and my bro went on hunt for some dro last night. We were both dry, and havent hung out all week so it was that time. We get a call back, each picked up an eighth. We rolled our blunts, and lit up. We each took one hit and ashed it since we didnt have drinks. We went to the near by Circle K.. I noticed that I was BAKED. Like peak of a bowl from my bong baked, and we havent even smoked yet. I could hardly make it around the store. We get our drinks, park, and smoked a little more. We were high as a kite and havent really even smoked yet.. We smoked a quarter of our blunts each, and I knew something was off. in the car, I felt too high.. Let me say, I smoke dank every single day for this whole past yearand I started to feel higher than ever. This weed wasnt even that dank as far as smell and how it looked. We get out of the car, and I dont know what im doing. Walking feels very different than usual. I was disconnected from where I was walking. 2 people walked past us, and I was convinced they were going to kill us. We get in the car and drive off, in a small panic. This is where is all changed. My bro seen tree's with knives, stabbing eachother. A guy on a bike, was melting all over the road in my vision. I felt a tingle in my hands and feet, and soon enough went 100% numb. Both of us did. We couldnt feel our body anymore. I couldnt feel pain, looking into the seat gave a 3-dimensional pattern. My voice started to echo when I spoke. I was straight tripping off of a super small portion of a blunt. Does this sound laced? I put in eye drops, and 20 minutes later they were read all over again. My pupils were big as well, like if I was on shrooms. My heart didnt calm down until I went to sleep, it was beating to where I could see my stomach beating with my heart. Way too fast. Time would slow wayyyy down. 10 minutes was like forever. Then 30 minutes would go faster than ever. Too fast. Time would do this back and forth. Does this sound laced? I've heard heroin in weed makes you numb in parts of your body. I dont feel right today, after waking up. I know it's not just strong weed, my tolerance is high. I love weed too much to be scared of it, last night was too much. Please help me
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InTheCosmos
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18894111 - 09/26/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you want a few details then here: Couldnt feel any wind at all, couldnt walk right, talking was scary, pupils were really large, eyes turned red again 20 minutes after eye drops, patterns and some hallucinations, heart was pumping 5x faster than normal. I feel scared all day today. I blacked out the whole time last night. I feel high still today.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18894183 - 09/26/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Could it have just been super potent weed? You got super high, started worrying about the weed being spiked, then you and your bro fed each others fears - and the weed amplified it?
I'm not trying to diminish what you experienced, just that I've experienced something similar a few times. Getting super high off a toke or two, really tripping out with time slowing down worse than acid or shrooms. The once I had to call a friend to talk me down as it sledgehammered me. I couldn't believe such a small amount of weed would hit me so hard.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18894184 - 09/26/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you probably just got some really dank shit. that and your inner fears makes for a good mix of paranoia juice.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: zZZz]
#18894207 - 09/26/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Or your dealer sprays his weed with bho oil.
Dank shit.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: ModestMouse]
#18894277 - 09/26/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It doesn't make sense for weed to be laced with something like heroin since the dealer would have to waste extra drugs to lace it with. Laced weed is extremely rare these days. People do lace weed with pcp sometimes but usually it is only when they do it on purpose to smoke pcp.
It could however be laced with a synthetic cannabinoid since they are legal and really cheap online. To me this is what it sounds like happened. Synth noids are extremely potent and usually always cause extreme anxiety and racing heart like you said.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18894334 - 09/26/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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From my experience, smoking pot always made my pupils smaller, not larger.
Extremely dilated pupils, full blown hallucinations, 3 dimensional patterns, voices echoing, dissociation etc from weed that didn't look like anything particularly special doesn't sound like just ordinary weed to me.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Into The Woods]
#18894358 - 09/26/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fear can heighten the high tenfold.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: searching]
#18894520 - 09/26/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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searching said: It could however be laced with a synthetic cannabinoid since they are legal and really cheap online. To me this is what it sounds like happened. Synth noids are extremely potent and usually always cause extreme anxiety and racing heart like you said.
The second and last time I did K2/Spice was after I took two hits and literally stared at the blunt repeating "Yo this shit is way too strong." It seriously hit me in under a minute. And I blacked out.
The heart rate and hallucinations are having me agree with searching. Synthetic marijuana added in to make more money.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18894532 - 09/26/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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InTheCosmos said:We each took one hit and ashed it since we didnt have drinks.
I could hardly make it around the store.
We smoked a quarter of our blunts each, and I knew something was off. in the car, I felt too high..
This weed wasnt even that dank as far as smell and how it looked.
Walking feels very different than usual. I was disconnected from where I was walking. 2 people walked past us, and I was convinced they were going to kill us.
We get in the car and drive off, in a small panic. This is where is all changed. My bro seen tree's with knives, stabbing eachother. A guy on a bike, was melting all over the road in my vision. I felt a tingle in my hands and feet, and soon enough went 100% numb. Both of us did. We couldnt feel our body anymore. I couldnt feel pain, looking into the seat gave a 3-dimensional pattern. My voice started to echo when I spoke. I was straight tripping off of a super small portion of a blunt. Does this sound laced?
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Agentchewy]
#18896003 - 09/26/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah with all the fake fucking drugs around these days, willing to bet its a synthetic "cannabinoid".. whatever happened to real drugs?
Glad you're ok. Find a better dealer, weed should only make you trip out if you have a low tolerance! But you knew that.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: ForestBellows]
#18896168 - 09/26/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You got laced weed man. None of the skeptics have any sound logic, they're just being skeptical for prolly the same reason I usually am, it's my first instinct. I dunno what it's laced with, I'd suggest a test kit at that point. But laced weed is definitely around, at least in Colorado and I don't live in Denver or a po-dunk town. Who knows why but it happens and I imagine that if it happens here, it happens elsewhere. I wouldn't smoke that weed again... actually, you should totally smoke that weed again in a few days, if it does the same thing, you know for sure.
Glad you're ok
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Galidor4]
#18896560 - 09/26/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would be thanking my lucky stars for the additional bounty!
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: searching]
#18896973 - 09/27/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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searching said: It could however be laced with a synthetic cannabinoid since they are legal and really cheap online. To me this is what it sounds like happened. Synth noids are extremely potent and usually always cause extreme anxiety and racing heart like you said.
this.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: westthebest]
#18896985 - 09/27/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18897451 - 09/27/13 05:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well to me it sounds like it could have been several things.
like you said it could have been laced with what sounds like PCP or something similar
Or it was just the weed. Sometimes you just randomly trip out. It has never happened to me but A friend of mine and some other people I've seen it happen to. they basicly do the same thing you did and my friend passed out walking in front of a gas station he would have hit the pavement if I didn't catch him lol
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: tbone8352]
#18897465 - 09/27/13 05:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like a jwh compound God I hate that shit Real weed 24 7 365
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18897483 - 09/27/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The body numbing, disconnected feeling when you walk and echoing voice makes it sound a lot like PCP, the others symptoms not so much. IDK about synthetic cannabis, never tried that.
I really don't know why someone would lace their shit with PCP though, it doesn't make much sense for a dealer to do that. Only thing I could think is that you bought from the personal weed stash from some shady ghetto ass dude? The weed would have had a strong chemical smell also.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: WingedWatcher]
#18897683 - 09/27/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i would think you would be able to see something off about the look of the bud.. maybe like looks coated in something. if it was laced with pcp at least..
if it was a synth 'noid you probably wouldnt see shit. would look the same, maybe a little less loved if you are used to quality.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: c0exist]
#18897749 - 09/27/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Once I smoked weed that made my pupils REALLY tiny and made me hallucinate colorful boxes. It made me feel so weird. I had like 10 thoughts a second. Kinda scary... If you pick up from 'the guy' you never know what you are gonna get.
I don't pick up stuff like that anymore. I got dispensaries
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18898007 - 09/27/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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IME That doesn't sound like a synthetic cannabinoid to me. I have experience with all of the most powerful ones. They don't make u hallucinate, they only last about a half hour, and they don't make ur pupils big.
I thinks it's either PCP, 3-MeO-PCP, 4-MeO-PCP, or some other odd low dose dissociative for sure.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: PurpleHaze147]
#18898032 - 09/27/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Try to find a grower who sells their own pot.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: ModestMouse]
#18898091 - 09/27/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Or your dealer sprays his weed with bho oil.
Dank shit.
How is this done?
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#18898214 - 09/27/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jesus_Animal_The said:
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ModestMouse said: Or your dealer sprays his weed with bho oil.
Dank shit.
How is this done?
And why? that's a total waste. I'm also assuming you're getting your BHO for more than 40 a g
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Galidor4]
#18898613 - 09/27/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow guys, thanks a lot for all the inputs. I was in a panic all day yesterday, and it still freaks me out. I chilled out for the day thinking maybe I was over reacting, so later on last night, I smoked a bowl of it that was as literally small as the metal part on a pencil that holds the eraser to the wooden pencil. 15 minutes later, I couldnt pick up my mug to sip on my Dr.Pepper, it felt like it was 20 pounds. When I went to stand up, I felt as if I was being pulled down. Eye pupils were large again as well. That's off of a bowl that small.
My buddy came over, and he said it smelled "off". He said it reminded him of the spice he used to smoke, although it was normal looking bud. The shake from the bag that I didnt smoke, got hard over night. It's not just me, this bud is sketchy. Im gonna sober up a day or 2 and find a total new resource for my bud from a different part of town. Yes, I did pick up from a shady-ish part of a town.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18898820 - 09/27/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bho is cheap man's wax. 6 a g here.
CO2 wax is so clear and shattery!!!! Yum. 40 a g here lol
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18898879 - 09/27/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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PurpleHaze147 said: IME That doesn't sound like a synthetic cannabinoid to me. I have experience with all of the most powerful ones. They don't make u hallucinate, they only last about a half hour, and they don't make ur pupils big.
Just gonna say, this is the biggest bs i've ever read. I was smoking a lot of am-2201 at one point, started smoking the pure 'noid, and I kid you not I straight up full blown ego loss and complete dissociative-like visual and audio hallucinations/distortions. I forget everything about who I was, where I was (in my exgirlfriends bathroom ) and even who my girlfriend or her mom was when they came in and thought I had a stroke or something.
It sounds like somebody probably soaked that weed in some cannabinoid at a high enough concentration to make a couple hits too much. And I know this is possible because a friend of mine used to make batches of spice so strong 1 hit was often too much unless you had built up a good tolerance, and I know its possible to spray the noids on weed or soak the weed in noid infused solvent then evaporate. If the weed doesnt look or smell like super dank pot then I GUARANTEE you are experiencing the effects of overdosing on synthetic cannabinoids.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Pirax]
#18899030 - 09/27/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmmm.. I think your weed was laced, because even Wax which is like wayyyyy stronger than any weed, does not do that to people.
They might get racing thoughts or paranoid thoughts for a while. But the visual hallucinations is not something you'd get from smoking weed unless you're a complete amateur.
It was probably laced, but don't worry. You survived it and you'll be fine, I have done tons of hard drugs and even mixed them at times and i'm perfectly okay right now.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18900466 - 09/27/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If it was laced with PCP it would stink. IDK what fake weed smells like or if it smells at all. But PCP laced weed should smell strongly like chemicals. And since PCP is an in demand drug it doesn't make sense to just give it away for free. Same reason no one puts crack or meth in weed, unless its for themselves.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: my3rdeye]
#18900793 - 09/27/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, the weed does smell odd. Pungent, like most Dro around here, but whatever other scent it is, is more open-your-sinuses kind of strong. Wouldn't taking a drug test show any other drug that COULD have been added into the herb? (besides THC of course). That's really all I could think of doing.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18901038 - 09/27/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude all the symptoms you describe sound like synthetic cannabinoids.
7 hey to guy saying those don't cause hallucinations... they most certainly do. I thought my hanging towel was a dem.on and I was a 5yr old child.
The physical shit is eally fuckin scary. that and the fear. Its easy to take a pure jwh or whatever, mix with alcohol, and soak the herb in it. whalla
I smoked mine pure So gross.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18901102 - 09/27/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I doubt the guy is selling a batch of weed that is completely covered in PCP
Probably synthetic 'noids if not just potent bud
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18901139 - 09/27/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sounds like pcp to me.. cause idc how much weed you smoke or how dank it is you aint seeing stuff like that.. impossible...
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: dsloan1977]
#18901448 - 09/28/13 03:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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nobody benefits from lacing weed, apart from achieving the douche award... Why spoil great weed with nasty spray or other chems and lose customers?? Some of you guys are sooo paranoid LOL
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Blazer420]
#18901485 - 09/28/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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congratulations, you smoked salvia devinourum
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: jmczeey]
#18901751 - 09/28/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Salvia sounds fucking awful..don't know if I still wanna experiment with it
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Pirax]
#18902585 - 09/28/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I kid you not I straight up full blown ego loss and complete dissociative-like visual and audio hallucinations/distortions. I forget everything about who I was, where I was
This has happened to my friend before from synthetic Cannabinoids. I've smoked a small amount once myself, and the experience was not at all pleasant.
I'd say that it could have been laced with some synthetic cannabinoids, as others here are suggesting. The above suggestion that there could have been some Salvia Divinorum intermixed with it sounds like one of the more plausible possibilities as well. I'd still wager it was some Noids though.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Pirax]
#18904186 - 09/28/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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[I've urpleHaze147 said: IME That doesn't sound like a sysort tic cannabinoid to me. I have experience with all of the most powerful ones. They don't make u hallucinate, they only last about a half hour, and they don't make ur pupils big.
Just gonna say, this is the biggest bs i've ever read. I was smoking a lot of am-2201 at one point, started smoking the pure 'noid, and I kid you not I straight up full blown ego loss and complete dissociative-like visual and audio hallucinations/distortions. I forget everything about who I was, where I was (in my exgirlfriends bathroom ) and even who my girlfriend or her mom was when they came in and thought I had a stroke or something.
It sounds like somebody probably soaked that weed in some cannabinoid at a high enough concentration to make a couple hits too much. And I know this is possible because a friend of mine used to make batches of spice so strong 1 hit was often too much unless you had built up a good tolerance, and I know its possible to spray the noids on weed or soak the weed in noid infused solvent then evaporate. If the weed doesnt look or smell like super dank pot then I GUARANTEE you are experiencing the effects of overdosing on synthetic cannabinoids.
Its bs of u to say the first sentence u said. Ive been smoking am-2201 @ high doses and never experienced any sort of visual. Well perceptual visual changes but that's it. And u didn't experience ego death on it unless u mixed it with a psychedelic, u had a panic attack and depersonalization. Sounds become more pernounced but I wouldn't call that a hallucination. I used to make my own blends too and with Pcp you'd do the exact same thing to make it. I also vaporize pure powder sometimes at dosages of 10mg. He said it smelt funky so it was not a noid, it was pcp or one of it's analogs. Don't say I wrote bullshit, u did.
Edited by PurpleHaze147 (09/28/13 09:35 PM)
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: PurpleHaze147]
#18904754 - 09/28/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like you got wet. (Smoked PCP) aka angel dust. How long did it last and did you feel any residual effects the next day? Oh and did it smell or taste funny?
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: PurpleHaze147]
#18905959 - 09/29/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Something you may not know is that drugs can effect everybody differently, and some people entirely differently. You couldn't simply say, "well 4-ho-met never gave me any visuals, only a body high, even on high doses. So those visuals were experiencing was a placebo fueled by your high expectation of crazy visuals" I have met quite a few people that have explained weird delirious visuals from synthetic cannabinoid overdose. So who are you to say that I did not experience ego loss and visual/audio distortions/hallucinations? 
Also I should have mentioned that I did not have a scale that weighed past 0.00 so I was always eyeballing doses. and am-2201 taken in a large enough dose WILL give you complete ego loss. What I experiences was not only a panic attack but a full blown visual hallucination that covered my field of vision, everything that my brain was seeing through my eyes, was NOT what was actually there. A whole scenario was going through my head where my gf (who was standing in front of my crying thinking I was stroked out or something) was the mom of the household, was really short and fat (like those wacky mirrors), had huge moles on her face, and was going about the house (which in my head was a totally different house ive never seen before) picking up dirty laundry and the like. Thats all I remember, but there were a few different scenarios that played through my head, just as random and weird as that one. When they tried giving me water it tasted like chemicals and I was convinced they were trying to drug me and were gonna bust me to the cops or something. I was in a paranoid-induced state for the next 2 hours, and kept hearing and seeing mild things that were not there. Like another guy said pcp would have a strong chemical smell. Also after personally hearing about people lacing synth. noids with weed, I am 100% positive that the guy got noid laced weed. Also, theres no telling if he got weed laced with some other smokable RC, and it isnt a noid altogether. But I'm pretty damn positive it was a noid.
As far as taking a drug test to isolate what it is, the only way this would work is taking a 5-panel test, which would show if you have consumed any of the schedules drugs tested for. But if its laced with a noid or other RC, that won't do you any good. You can try a marquis reagent test  Otherwise just take small hits of that weed at a time and make sure not to smoke too much. Some noids can take a couple minutes to hit you, and sometimes you can have already smoked too much by the time it even hits you.
Edited by Pirax (09/29/13 06:50 AM)
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: GreySatyr]
#18914057 - 10/01/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, the next day I was pretty much out of it. My chest felt heavy, and I was paranoid because I felt like I was being blocked from my normal state of mind. It was weird. I've gone through a different guy lastnight and tonight. Sooo much different. For the better Much better.
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
#18914534 - 10/01/13 03:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmm... my first guess was PCP. But why would anybody put PCP on weed they intend to sell? Like they're just gonna give away the PCP for free? That's not how dealers think. But I think it's definitely laced with something cuz you said the weed didn't look like anything special, you got it in a shady part of town, and you have a high tolerance. This all leads me to think that it's basically some shit-ass weed that they bought for next to nothing and then sprayed it with some synthetic cannabinoids.
If it had been super dank weed and you had no tolerance, I'd say it was just the weed. I've had full-blown psychedelic experiences on nothin' but weed, but that was after months of not smoking. I know a lot people think it's impossible to hallucinate from weed, and that's what I thought, but it does affect everyone differently, and you're sensitivity to it can change over time. That said, I've heard some weird things about synthetic 'noids, and that's my best guess. I think you'll undoubtedly feel totally normal relatively soon, but you definitely gotta find a new hook-up.
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