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Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade
    #18894020 - 09/26/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade
thedailybeast.com

Drugs still may not be legal, but buyers can find an online community vetting and rating dealers and their product. Winston Ross talks to the founder of Silk Road, the go-to site for the ‘good stuff.’

Memo to Miley Cyrus: when you sing about “dancing with Molly,” you’re hyping a drug most of your fans won’t get to experience—at least, not the good stuff.

What you get, how you “roll,” what’s the pure, clean Molly, a.k.a. MDMA, a.k.a. Ecstasy. You’re rich, and your handlers only buy the best stuff from the best dealers. When you dance with Molly, Miley, you can be pretty sure it’s not going to kill you.

These people, on the other hand, likely got their stash from some random dealer at a party or a concert. It was probably cut with something, probably methylone, a.k.a. bath salts. It’s probably why all those Molly users died in the span of a week, experts say—not from dancing with Molly but getting a bad drug laced with something bad that killed them.

Before you blame Miley for promoting deadly drugs, consider this: it’s very rare to die from the good Molly. And there’s a much safer way to buy the good stuff than from some idiot at an electronic-music show. It’s a place on the Internet called Silk Road.

Silk Road, for the uninitiated, is the eBay of illicit substances, from MDMA to LSD. You can buy legal stuff like computer equipment and jewelry, but that’s not what most people are looking for. Because you have to travel through an encrypted wormhole to get there, and because you have to use a difficult-to-trace, encrypted currency to pay for anything, it’s a relatively safe place to buy drugs. And because not only the sellers but the kinds of drugs the site sells are rated and ranked by hundreds of users, it’s a relatively certain way to ensure that the drugs on offer aren’t cut with crap and aren’t going to kill you—at least, not if you avoid taking too much of them.

All that, say the site’s moderators and drug-policy experts, means Silk Road and other venues like it offer the best available compromise to the ongoing debate about getting high in America. While outright legalization, regulation, and taxation might be the best way to ensure unadulterated drugs are as safe as possible to people who are going to use drugs no matter what the law says, Silk Road is a close second.

“People die from ecstasy because of overdose and low purity,” said Silk Road’s founder, known to the world only as Dread Pirate Roberts, in a rare interview conducted via messages on the site with The Daily Beast. “These people don’t know what they are taking and how much, but it’s the best they can do because of all the damage prohibition has done to the market for drugs. Silk Road is repairing that damage.”

    ‘Silk Road will exist as long as prohibition is in place, and unfortunately it is safer than flat-out prohibition. It’s an in-between.’

The site, he boasts, has “some of the purest drugs on the planet with well-defined dosages and a community of support for people seeking harm-reduction advice. We have some of the most responsible, dedicated, and brave individuals that make up our community.”

And it really is a community. The site’s long-term vendors have built up their reputations over months and years, accumulating hundreds of positive comments, nicknames like “Queen of Silk Road,” and the kind of public adoration normally reserved for the neighborhood barber. Those who screw customers over, on the other hand, are quickly outed and ostracized.

Silk Road appears to be booming. It now has more than 10,000 listings for drugs, including nearly 2,000 for marijuana, the most popular option. A six-month “crawl” of the site by Carnegie Mellon University researcher Nicholis Christin provides the best educated guess of Silk Road’s numbers. In late 2011 and early 2012, Christin concluded that the site’s operators were pulling in $92,000 a month in commissions, based on $1.2 million in revenue for those selling goods. The total number of those vendors and the number of items sold doubled from when Christin began and finished his research.

Of the various items sold, “weed” made up 13.7 percent, followed by “drugs,” 9 percent, and then “prescription,” 7.4 percent. The U.S. was the most common supplier, with 43 percent of all sales. Most items were listed for less than three weeks, most sellers stayed on the site for about 100 days, and more than 96 percent of them received perfect feedback ratings, a five out of five.

“It appears at first glance that Silk Road sellers are highly reliable,” Christin wrote, though he attributed that in part to the site’s escrow system, wherein buyers don’t release the funds they’ve committed to a purchase until they’ve received (and, if they want, tested) a product. He also noted that Internet users tend to “disproportionately use positive feedback when rating online experiences. In fact, over 99 percent of the feedback (on eBay, in a recent study) was positive.”

The more money flows in, of course, the more likely it becomes that the cops will eventually try to get involved. After Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) recently criticized Silk Road, DEA sources were telling reporters that they’re “keeping tabs” on the site. Another similar venture, Atlantis, abruptly shut down this week, citing “security concerns” that may well have been a law-enforcement issue.

Silk Road is still alive and well, at least for now.

“Silk Road will exist as long as prohibition is in place, and unfortunately it is safer than flat-out prohibition,” said Neill Franklin, executive director of the nonprofit Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. “It’s an in-between.”

That’s why anti-prohibition advocates are cheering the site on, if a little uneasily. The case for Silk Road is exactly the one for outright legalization, says Harvard University economics professor Jeff Miron, Silk Road is fine, he told The Daily Beast—“I have no objection to a Consumer Reports for drugs”—but the site still falls short of what a regulated market could accomplish.

“It’s still an underground market,” Miron says. “And with an underground market, you can’t sue the manufacturer if you get a bad-quality commodity.”

So, yes, legalization is better, if you’re the type who favors legalization. But the problem, acknowledges Miron, is that the United States is a long way away from legalization.

“It’s going to take an ‘allegedly conservative’ second-term Republican president, secretly libertarian, enough of a non-pothead, a stoner who in other ways seems very stable, normal, and middle class” to convince the conservative wing of Americans that prohibition is bad policy, he says. “He’ll have to be conservative on a lot of things, to have enough credibility when he says, ‘This is the wrong way.’”

Legalization may take a complete generational shift, says Franklin. Now that marijuana is legal in Colorado and Washington, he says, he expects to see the movement spread until the ban on weed is lifted nationwide. After that, who knows?

“Once we start seeing the benefits of the policy for marijuana, what if we do something different with cocaine and heroin?” Franklin says. “It’s only a matter of years before young people of today are in positions of influence and power.”

Dread Pirate Roberts says he’d welcome the competition—though not the regulation.

“I wouldn’t stand in the way of the loosening or eliminating of drug laws so that we could all more easily provide the service Silk Road does,” Roberts wrote. “What I AM against is the agents of the state being involved at all. If they had simply left people to their own devices and allowed them the freedom to choose as I have at Silk Road, we’d have an economy so productive and robust it would be generating wealth for centuries to come, with more than enough for everyone.”


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Ythan]
    #18894300 - 09/26/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Silk Road is for pedo's...

every person who has tried to buy shit off there gets jacked...

hands downn gay boy road.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax] * 1
    #18894493 - 09/26/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
Silk Road is for pedo's...

every person who has tried to buy shit off there gets jacked...

hands downn gay boy road.



lol I've purchased many items from there and I have never once got jacked


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax] * 2
    #18894685 - 09/26/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

your talking out your ass, and what's coming out smells like shit and astro-glide


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: longhair_Bri]
    #18894746 - 09/26/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

case proved.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18894819 - 09/26/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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case proved.


:goodluckwiththat2:



:orly: i think you mean "proven"


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
    #18894907 - 09/26/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't mind if I have to use ebay to get drugs or SR

but ebay would be easiest, SR takes 10secs to get on from my phone

would be pretty cool with weed on ebay, now it's legal in many places


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax] * 1
    #18894990 - 09/26/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
Silk Road is for pedo's...

every person who has tried to buy shit off there gets jacked...

hands downn gay boy road.



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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18894995 - 09/26/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18895097 - 09/26/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I know a few people who have ordered there

noone have gotten busted, and the items have been genuine

how would the cops prove it was your package, that is the good question
you can always deny it, they will have no case against you, no proof, it was encrypted on tor

anyone can order heroin to my home... must be a mistake, officer, have a nice day ;-)


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: lessismore]
    #18895197 - 09/26/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not how it works ^^ They intercept the package. Then they replace postal service worker with under cover agent. You sign and receive package: which is admitting guilt. You don't just sign for a drop shipped package unless you were expecting it, then they raid your computers and cell phones. Or they simply just raid your ass after uncovering you.

Paul Leslie Howard used Silk Road to buy and import the illicit drugs on 11 different occasions. Australian Customs and Border Protection Service officers in Melbourne and Sydney examined mail -- most of which came from the Netherlands and Germany -- destined for his home. They found 46.9 grammes of MDMA and 14.5 grammes of cocaine. The federal police then raided his house in July 2012 and found digital scales, ziplock bags, $2,300 (£2,000) in cash, 35 stun guns disguised as mobile phones and a money counter. They also found two working mobile phones, and forensically analysed more than 20,000 text messages. In amongst them were incriminating texts such as "I got five grand worth if you want" and "promote the LSD I got more in. I sold 200 cubes last week".


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18895217 - 09/26/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That right there,is a Dumb ass. Who openly texts about having LSD and shrooms?fuck sake have some common sense.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18895273 - 09/26/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yep, the scariest one is the story recently about the guy ordering a kilo of bath salts and getting a kilo of MDMA instead. That would BLOW!


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18895281 - 09/26/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Gorlax said:
Silk Road is for pedo's...

every person who has tried to buy shit off there gets jacked...

hands downn gay boy road.




Why would you intentionally spread such falsities based only on conjecture on a forum so free and open?

That really baffles me.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #18895327 - 09/26/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Actually, the Road is the Craigslist of drugs. Ebay is for auctions, and the Road is not an auction site.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
    #18895698 - 09/26/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That right there,is a Dumb ass. Who openly texts about having LSD and shrooms?fuck sake have some common sense.



'specially since they don't need a warrant to view them

also your not supposed to sign for them


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18897185 - 09/27/13 02:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what is this "silk road" and why haven't I heard of it?

:hmm:


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18897682 - 09/27/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Not how it works ^^ They intercept the package. Then they replace postal service worker with under cover agent. You sign and receive package: which is admitting guilt. You don't just sign for a drop shipped package unless you were expecting it, then they raid your computers and cell phones. Or they simply just raid your ass after uncovering you.





The beauty of a properly set up linux
No evidence

and the beauty of TOR, even more anonymous

they can never prove you  ordered it, if you use the tor browser
it destroys evidence, doesn't save cookies etc.

if you sign for it, they might have some evidence
but many packages are not sign for I heard .. :-)

Personally I sign for packages all the time... so I would sign for any package
get maybe 3-5 packages each week some weeks , not drugs... hardware stuff
so would never guess if someone mailed me some good buds, I never check the sender when I sign for a package, most packages I get are delayed 3-7 weeks ... so could be anything I receive

I wouldn't be worried about ordering from SR
even if they got my package, it would be for personal consumption
I'm a small fish to catch, would just get a fine, no sentence


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18897743 - 09/27/13 08:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Not how it works ^^ They intercept the package. Then they replace postal service worker with under cover agent. You sign and receive package: which is admitting guilt. You don't just sign for a drop shipped package unless you were expecting it, then they raid your computers and cell phones. Or they simply just raid your ass after uncovering you.

Paul Leslie Howard used Silk Road to buy and import the illicit drugs on 11 different occasions. Australian Customs and Border Protection Service officers in Melbourne and Sydney examined mail -- most of which came from the Netherlands and Germany -- destined for his home. They found 46.9 grammes of MDMA and 14.5 grammes of cocaine. The federal police then raided his house in July 2012 and found digital scales, ziplock bags, $2,300 (�2,000) in cash, 35 stun guns disguised as mobile phones and a money counter. They also found two working mobile phones, and forensically analysed more than 20,000 text messages. In amongst them were incriminating texts such as "I got five grand worth if you want" and "promote the LSD I got more in. I sold 200 cubes last week".



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Gorlax said:
Not how it works ^^ They intercept the package. Then they replace postal service worker with under cover agent. You sign and receive package: which is admitting guilt. You don't just sign for a drop shipped package unless you were expecting it, then they raid your computers and cell phones. Or they simply just raid your ass after uncovering you.

Paul Leslie Howard used Silk Road to buy and import the illicit drugs on 11 different occasions. Australian Customs and Border Protection Service officers in Melbourne and Sydney examined mail -- most of which came from the Netherlands and Germany -- destined for his home. They found 46.9 grammes of MDMA and 14.5 grammes of cocaine. The federal police then raided his house in July 2012 and found digital scales, ziplock bags, $2,300 (�2,000) in cash, 35 stun guns disguised as mobile phones and a money counter. They also found two working mobile phones, and forensically analysed more than 20,000 text messages. In amongst them were incriminating texts such as "I got five grand worth if you want" and "promote the LSD I got more in. I sold 200 cubes last week".



Quote:

Gorlax said:
Not how it works ^^ They intercept the package. Then they replace postal service worker with under cover agent. You sign and receive package: which is admitting guilt. You don't just sign for a drop shipped package unless you were expecting it, then they raid your computers and cell phones. Or they simply just raid your ass after uncovering you.

Paul Leslie Howard used Silk Road to buy and import the illicit drugs on 11 different occasions. Australian Customs and Border Protection Service officers in Melbourne and Sydney examined mail -- most of which came from the Netherlands and Germany -- destined for his home. They found 46.9 grammes of MDMA and 14.5 grammes of cocaine. The federal police then raided his house in July 2012 and found digital scales, ziplock bags, $2,300 (£2,000) in cash, 35 stun guns disguised as mobile phones and a money counter. They also found two working mobile phones, and forensically analysed more than 20,000 text messages. In amongst them were incriminating texts such as "I got five grand worth if you want" and "promote the LSD I got more in. I sold 200 cubes last week".



That's because Australian customs r crazy strict and that's a lot of drugs to order in the mail. At least it was legit.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18897764 - 09/27/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If the fine system allows you up to 99 doses of lsd before you get more than a fine, you order 95

if the fine system allows you up to 100g weed before you get a sentence, you order 95g

:-)

use the system to your advantage, read the law
never have more  than for personal consumption

scales scan be argued as for personal consumption often, as they are used to measure
depending on how many drugs you got

if I had a car I would be driving around with my bong, joint paper on me always, that's legal to have (I quit smoking weed luckily, only smoke salvia;)

some day they will be tired of searching everyone for small personal amounts
and the law will be revised

just have to play by their rules and know their rules, to beat the system

the law/fine system for posession is available on google in pdf format


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18897973 - 09/27/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Not how it works ^^ They intercept the package. Then they replace postal service worker with under cover agent. You sign and receive package: which is admitting guilt. You don't just sign for a drop shipped package unless you were expecting it, then they raid your computers and cell phones. Or they simply just raid your ass after uncovering you.




Um, who's signing for packages?


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: s240779]
    #18898866 - 09/27/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

people like him shouldn't be using SR anyway let him think that :rofl:


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18908403 - 09/29/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

^ fuck you


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18908509 - 09/29/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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^ fuck you





That's why I have him on ignore.  I don't know what he wrote but I understand +5


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18908571 - 09/29/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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^ fuck you



:jimmies:

just saying you clearly don't know enough about postal law or BTC to use it safely, hence you might get caught.


it's pretty foolproof when used correctly


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18915257 - 10/01/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It really isn't, it depends on how badly they want to fuck you over.  If they deliver the drugs to your house and you accept them, don't call the police or bring the package back to the mail drop I'm pretty confident that would be grounds to watch your house and get at some point get a warrant.  I know they usually don't do this, but they can.  The secret to never getting caught catching packages isn't to just never sign, if it it was that simple a lot more people would do it.  That being said, usually they don't use DEA for controlled deliverys and most of the one's I've heard of were going for an easy bust.  I have heard of people that never signed getting busted though, it does happen.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: fapjack]
    #18915396 - 10/01/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I use the mail system just as much as anyone who orders shit online. I don't use bitcoin bullshit because it honestly sounds like a made up drug fantasy world where people use "coins" to purchase drugs. Your trying to say the Silk Road is fool proof. It is not, the fact that it has made headlines is the biggest indicator that its faulted. None of my online sources have ever made headlines. Not saying they are all invincible but surely their are better options then the silk road.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: fapjack]
    #18915397 - 10/01/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I signed for a package once with drugs in it... I didnt get arrested.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: 2859558484]
    #18915453 - 10/01/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So have a lot of people, the % of packaged that get seized is small, the # of packages that end up being controlled deliveries is even smaller.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18915516 - 10/01/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I use the mail system just as much as anyone who orders shit online. I don't use bitcoin bullshit because it honestly sounds like a made up drug fantasy world where people use "coins" to purchase drugs. Your trying to say the Silk Road is fool proof. It is not, the fact that it has made headlines is the biggest indicator that its faulted. None of my online sources have ever made headlines. Not saying they are all invincible but surely their are better options then the silk road.




Coins were used as currency for centuries. The idea of Credit cards have only be used for ~100 years.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: dark3st]
    #18915525 - 10/01/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Bitcoins aren't actual coins either, and haven't even been around for 8 years.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: fapjack]
    #18915538 - 10/01/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He was saying coins were only used in fantasy world type shit. I knew bitcoins have been around for less then a decade, wasn't my point. 

I should also point out if it wasn't assumed, currency changes over time.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: dark3st]
    #18915691 - 10/01/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dont have your drop spot as the final location. Make sure you arent followed during the run. Put "return to sender" on the outside.


There are precautions one can take...

Quite foolproof.

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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18915753 - 10/01/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Its not foolproof, I am sick of hearing people say that.  If you take precautions you are a lot less likely to get caught, but that isn't the same as foolproof.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: fapjack]
    #18916399 - 10/01/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone wanna order a kilo of Hair-On from SR and find out if its foolproof???


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: 2859558484]
    #18916595 - 10/01/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Still not satisfied? Do all the computer bits with a public computer that doesnt require ID and has no cameras on it.


I would like you to explain how someone taking every precaution could be caught. Im truly curious


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18916634 - 10/01/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

http://m.peninsulaclarion.com/news/2013-04-10
Happy?

That type of controlled delivery isn't common, but it isn't rare either.  If you think they find a kilo of heroin in the mail you are home free, you are wrong.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: fapjack]
    #18917176 - 10/01/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Leave the package alone for a few days unopened....




this^ Is a GPS Tracking Detection & Counter Surveillance GPS bug finder.


can't afford it?



this^ is a metal detector wand that can easily find hidden electronic devices. 


Next :sun:


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18917495 - 10/01/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

^ pseudo sciencce. :lol:


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18917672 - 10/01/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Metal detection and EMR detection are far from being fake.


I own ghetto versions of both that work well


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18917676 - 10/01/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Leave the package alone for a few days unopened....




this^ Is a GPS Tracking Detection & Counter Surveillance GPS bug finder.


can't afford it?



this^ is a metal detector wand that can easily find hidden electronic devices. 


Next :sun:


this is fun





They could just watch your movements with infrared cameras once they get a judge to approve it (they will considering you are receiving large amounts of drugs to your house.)  You didn't fucking find a full proof drug smuggling plan, I'm sorry.  You are extremely naive if you think you did.  If the DEA wants you and you are getting packages sent to your house, you will go to prison.  People a lot smarter than both of us have been caught with less obvious evidence.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: fapjack]
    #18917697 - 10/01/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dont receive any illegal mail I have way too much to lose.


Of course if you are trafficking huge quantities you will lose in the end.  I guess... :mad:


In person contacts are much better for that.


And there are ways to make that safer as well.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18919616 - 10/02/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dude did you even see The Wire?
Fapjack is The Wire.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18919881 - 10/02/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I dont receive any illegal mail I have way too much to lose.


Of course if you are trafficking huge quantities you will lose in the end.  I guess... :mad:


In person contacts are much better for that.


And there are ways to make that safer as well.




You can reduce the risk, but its still a lot more risky than you are making it seem.  They bust people for that shit everyday.


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    #18920147 - 10/02/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18920614 - 10/02/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

People make mistakes, it was from before silk road was even a website.  I really doubt he ever thought SR was going to be 1/100th as big as it got.  He was trying to promote it, and he made a minor mistake that wouldn't have mattered if the site he was making fizzled out and died (probably like he thought it was going to).  It sucks big time, I really feel sorry for him.  He's going to die in prison.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18920967 - 10/02/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My condolances to those with BTC in their SR wallet :sadyes:


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18921030 - 10/02/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

HAHA FED SEIZED SILK ROAD

"Feds Shut Down Silk Road, Seize $3.6 Million in Bitcoins"


http://www.hightimes.com/read/feds-shut-down-silk-road-seize-36-million-bitcoins


...case closed..


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18921086 - 10/02/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

....and zero users busted as a result thus far. 

Your claim was that using SR, not administrating it, was dangerous


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    #18921268 - 10/02/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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HAHA FED SEIZED SILK ROAD

"Feds Shut Down Silk Road, Seize $3.6 Million in Bitcoins"


http://www.hightimes.com/read/feds-shut-down-silk-road-seize-36-million-bitcoins


...case closed..


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18921458 - 10/02/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You don't realize that this is going to effect everyone in the drug community do you?


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    #18921620 - 10/02/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He's too busy being smug that he was too retarded to figure out how to use it, and is now feeling somehow righteous in that the threat to his drug peen is gone


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: fapjack]
    #18922642 - 10/02/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Based on reading the criminal complaint, the most secure thing on tor was the....


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    #18922745 - 10/02/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't care about the "drug community".. I'll just grow my pot legally and live in peace..

-I was never really trying to be a dick, I was just trying to prove a point that it wasn't foolproof! I had an opinion and the next day it was seized by the feds, so I erupted with a in your face post.

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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Gorlax]
    #18922875 - 10/02/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i don't even dislike you man but this is a huge loss in the war on drugs.


and you are expressing a mostly ambivalent attitude about it.


Your point was that using silk road was dangerous.  no users are being arrested in connection with this case.


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You don't realize that this is going to effect everyone in the drug community do you?




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HAHA FED SEIZED SILK ROAD

"Feds Shut Down Silk Road, Seize $3.6 Million in Bitcoins"




this isn't funny at all.  you seem more worried about being "right" in an argument where you aren't even "Right"


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: NWlight]
    #18923180 - 10/02/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i don't even dislike you man but this is a huge loss in the war on drugs.


and you are expressing a mostly ambivalent attitude about it.


Your point was that using silk road was dangerous.  no users are being arrested in connection with this case.


only the single administrator


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You don't realize that this is going to effect everyone in the drug community do you?




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HAHA FED SEIZED SILK ROAD

"Feds Shut Down Silk Road, Seize $3.6 Million in Bitcoins"




this isn't funny at all.  you seem more worried about being "right" in an argument where you aren't even "Right"




This really isn't a huge loss in the war on drugs, i hope it ends a mostly centralized market, more competition the better. It was bound to happen, so it doesn't really effect the entire community, it's only a milestone. I feel bad for the supposed dpr, he deserves a medal or some shit.


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Re: Silk Road Is the eBay of the Online Drug Trade [Re: Deemstar]
    #18931240 - 10/04/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Was this article posted before the bust?


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    #18931254 - 10/04/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Idk press the number 1 on the top or bottom of this thread and find out.


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