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Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. * 6
    #18894000 - 09/26/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

1/8 is the perfect entry point. For cubes anyway.

Anything anyone else says is a lie. We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms. The real experience starts at around 3gs. So just take an eighth and call it a day.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18894049 - 09/26/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Amen


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: fungiamongi3]
    #18894093 - 09/26/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:popcorn: waiting to see what Wiccan_Seeker has to say about this. I agree, but one size does not fit all.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #18894345 - 09/26/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I took this dose my first time and was slightly disappointed. I'm definitely in the minority here, but I recommend at least 8g's.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sukhavati12]
    #18894699 - 09/26/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lol, you must've had some very weak shrooms.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sukhavati12]
    #18894715 - 09/26/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I took this dose my first time and was slightly disappointed. I'm definitely in the minority here, but I recommend at least 8g's.



Dont be retarded. This thread is about someones FIRST time with mushrooms, so why even mention 8g?

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #18894859 - 09/26/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

less than 1g and got very nice visuals, even 2 would be have probably been slightly to much for a first time, dont listen to this guys advice


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: nssurge]
    #18894895 - 09/26/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree, I think if you are interested in what shrooms have to offer you should really have an experience that will build knowldge of what to expect and actually learn something about yourself and the fungus.

I agree, I always tell people to start at an 1/8 or sometimes if they aren't cubes, I say like 2.5 grams or something. :shrug:

I personally don't see why you would want to miss out on a real shroomtrip and take like a gram and then go into your next trip with no real knowldge of what is to be expected.

But, if someone is really iffy about it, and headstrong about starting low, I'm not going to pressure them into doing more then they are comfortable with, but I will try my best to make the comfortable with doing the full 8th

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: nssurge]
    #18894901 - 09/26/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sort of depends really.... One size does not fit all... IMHO

Someone who has done acid a few times could be better prepared than someone who has never done psychedelics at all

3-4 gm might be ok for psychedelic experienced users but 2-2.5 gm might be enough for the total novice ...

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse] * 1
    #18894962 - 09/26/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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1/8 is the perfect entry point. For cubes anyway.

Anything anyone else says is a lie. We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms. The real experience starts at around 3gs. So just take an eighth and call it a day.




Establishing this as the "standard" is nothing more than psychedelic penis-measuring chauvinism.  It's like the frat bro at a party trying to convince a first-time drinker that they're being a pussy if they're not pounding a six-pack.  Plenty of people get exactly the sort of experience they need from smaller (and larger) doses.  Not to mention that (1) potency varies and (2) people's individual tolerance and mental fortitude varies.  My ex did an eighth her first time on shrooms and had a very bad trip, completely flipped her shit and took a fair amount of time to recover.  A 0.5-2g dose does her just fine nowadays.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18894980 - 09/26/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Agreed


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18895012 - 09/26/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

...each to thair own I know people that have never took moer than two grams and still can expearience level4 trip ofen with less,I figure depends how well you can let go and no fight the expearience.. :shrug:
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If I gave my 85lb girlfriend an 3.5 of truffles lemon tek or after a short fast she wouldn't be able to talk.. Another girl I know only needs less than a 1/3 of a hit of L... Like I said each to his/her own though


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Lucid Toast]
    #18895047 - 09/26/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I took 4g and let me say, I would've been absolutely disappointed taking less than 3.5g... If you slowly ease into the experience, you'll NEVER get to experience the initial "Holy fuck, so this is shrooms!!". And honestly, my first experience was the best damn experience I've ever had with shrooms, wouldn't you like to say the same?


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: eMpire420]
    #18895111 - 09/26/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm slowly working my way up to an eighth, and I'm really glad I'm taking it slow.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: MitchyDee]
    #18895214 - 09/26/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

(First post, weeoo)

My first time was in the 6-7 gram area.. While I look back now and think of it as the best time/trip of my life so far, I'd be lying if I said it didn't make me apprehensive the next few times I did shrooms. There definitely was very bad parts of that trip. Made me anxious during the come up, but it does give you that respect for them.

On the same note, we gave a buddy 1.5 g of shake from the bottom of the bag and he couldn't talk properly for 3 or so hours . He's pretty slender though. I don't think a one size fits all is the way to go. If you're 100 lbs wet, all skin and bones, 3.5 of potent shrooms could very well be a bad time.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: eMpire420]
    #18895364 - 09/26/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I took 4g and let me say, I would've been absolutely disappointed taking less than 3.5g... If you slowly ease into the experience, you'll NEVER get to experience the initial "Holy fuck, so this is shrooms!!". And honestly, my first experience was the best damn experience I've ever had with shrooms, wouldn't you like to say the same?



Agreed tenfold.

As scary as it is, going headfirst into 3-4gs is IMO the best way to meet the mushroom.
When you "work your way up" youre just dicking around.

You can either handle your shit, or you cant. Taking a small beginners dose will teach you nothing about your preparedness.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18895405 - 09/26/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

3.5 is the standard dose around here but its mostly attributed to what Sonamdrukpa was saying. Most of my friends still really don't understand the mushroom and I'd say its the half quarter that makes em or brakes em but its really just the vibe of the huge group of friends.

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18895408 - 09/26/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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1/8 is the perfect entry point. For cubes anyway.

Anything anyone else says is a lie. We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms. The real experience starts at around 3gs. So just take an eighth and call it a day.




Establishing this as the "standard" is nothing more than psychedelic penis-measuring chauvinism.  It's like the frat bro at a party trying to convince a first-time drinker that they're being a pussy if they're not pounding a six-pack.  Plenty of people get exactly the sort of experience they need from smaller (and larger) doses.  Not to mention that (1) potency varies and (2) people's individual tolerance and mental fortitude varies.  My ex did an eighth her first time on shrooms and had a very bad trip, completely flipped her shit and took a fair amount of time to recover.  A 0.5-2g dose does her just fine nowadays.



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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18895456 - 09/26/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

One dose doesn't fit all and trying to use your experience as a standard unit of measurement to make a blanket dosage is very irresponsible. I've never taken less than an 1/8, but partied with two girls in the army that split 1/8 and always tripped to the point when they did talk it was almost cryptic babble. Another dude my size ate 1/4s. I would say anything less than a gram isnt worth it but a gram or two is fine. Under 100 start with a gram if you want to remain modest. 150 2 g. Pushing 200 hit the 1/8. If you are looking for the real trip, visuals and accept the risk do an 1/8. Just because I want vines growing on breathing walls and periods of cosmic realizations doesn't mean every one does. Maybe they just want passing visuals and deeper than normal thoughts.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Smeagol]
    #18895510 - 09/26/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The first time I did 3.5g I ended up lost on the side of the road miles away from the area we were hiking..... I couldn't communicate with anyone for the first couple hours of the trip.... I think its a good starting point but I would definitely make sure the person understands just how much of an ass kicking they may be in for. :peace:


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18895542 - 09/26/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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1/8 is the perfect entry point. For cubes anyway.

Anything anyone else says is a lie. We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms. The real experience starts at around 3gs. So just take an eighth and call it a day.





First dose in 5 years was about 6.5 or so.  Parts of it were intense, but at the same time pretty fun.  Just go in with an open mind and eat as much as you like I think.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sukhavati12]
    #18895609 - 09/26/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I took this dose my first time and was slightly disappointed. I'm definitely in the minority here, but I recommend at least 8g's.



Dont listen to this guy not sure he has ever tried shrooms


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #18896115 - 09/26/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I took this dose my first time and was slightly disappointed. I'm definitely in the minority here, but I recommend at least 8g's.



Dont listen to this guy not sure he has ever tried shrooms



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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18896294 - 09/26/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: KingKnowledge] * 1
    #18896489 - 09/26/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

3.5 grams is a great trip to start.  I am coming down now from having done 3.5.  Great entertainment!!


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: mpd]
    #18896514 - 09/26/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you never do drugs then maybe an eighth isn't for you. But if you are an avid user of all things narcotic, you will most likely be fine as you are probably used to altering your perceptive reality. However, I would say first timers, eat them don't take tea or powder it and drink cuz the initial fast come up may be overbearing.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: mpd]
    #18896523 - 09/26/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My first time I ate 1.8g and had a profound and awesome experience.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: shroomy stan]
    #18896643 - 09/26/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you take the 1/8th your first time, take it by yourself in the wilderness in case you freak out.  After about 50 8balls I became bold enough to trip around other people.  That's bold and people can tell you are heavily intoxicated on something strange.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sunshine]
    #18896813 - 09/27/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah. I was at a friends party when I did them. And while chilling and getting high was fun, talking with his mother was not. Especially when tripping hard.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: shroomy stan]
    #18896887 - 09/27/13 12:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

3.5g-4.0g for first timers for sure!! STICKY PLEASE!!:super:


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sunshine]
    #18897313 - 09/27/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you take the 1/8th your first time, take it by yourself in the wilderness in case you freak out.  After about 50 8balls I became bold enough to trip around other people.  That's bold and people can tell you are heavily intoxicated on something strange.



As if being in the wilderness is a good place to freak out :lol: Better to take a possibly overwhealming dose at your home base where you feel at ease and will still hopefully vaguely recognize your surroundings. Realizing suddenly that you're completely and utterly lost - if you're already freaking out a bit - is going to do very little to ease your mind :tongue: Not that I don't think tripping in the wilderness is a bad idea at all, and is probably the best environment.. I just speak from the experience of having done a little too many mushrooms in a very unfamiliar wilderness setting - and basically getting completely lost :lol: I'd do it again of course though :wink:


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: twighead] * 1
    #18897368 - 09/27/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

take an 1/8 and be as ready as you can what you can't expect.

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    #18897369 - 09/27/13 03:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

3.5 grams is the best first dose. nice post.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Apeman]
    #18897459 - 09/27/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah starting at an eighth prob isn't a good idea for everyone. I starting from half a gram and worked my way up to 8 gs eventually.

Being cocky that you can take 3.5 your first trip is very bad if you can't.


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    #18897485 - 09/27/13 05:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I had a girl who got off on 2 gs and will never eat more.  i personally prefer 5-7 and popped my cherry on an eighth.  she however would have melted to the floor.

if you have decentt control of your emotions 1/8 is fine.  if you have some issues start low.

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    #18897763 - 09/27/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18897789 - 09/27/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone is different, my first adventure ever was with 1/8th. Nowadays I do not eat less than 5 grams. But that is a personal preference for deep trips and nothing more.

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Darkenshroom]
    #18897993 - 09/27/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

After your first trip, you can come here and brag about how well you handled it and you will get applauded by the masses for bravery.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: omegafaust]
    #18898243 - 09/27/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I had a girl who got off on 2 gs and will never eat more.  i personally prefer 5-7 and popped my cherry on an eighth.  she however would have melted to the floor.

if you have decentt control of your emotions 1/8 is fine.  if you have some issues start low.

know your drug and know yourself beforehand... as best you can anyway.




This. As you guys already know, I obviously am an advocate for 1/8th for first timers, however, if YOU think it's a bad idea to take more, then don't! It's not a requirement, just a recommendation. You know how you are emotionally and with drugs in general.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sukhavati12] * 1
    #18898921 - 09/27/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I took this dose my first time and was slightly disappointed. I'm definitely in the minority here, but I recommend at least 8g's.




A first timer would not handle 8 grams very well.. I don't care who you are.

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18901129 - 09/27/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well the first time i ate shrooms i ate a whole 1/8.. I just shoved as many as i could in my mouth and swallowed lol.. rookie mistake!!! i ended up spewing all over the ground.. I was like S&*T and i bent down and dug them babies out and ate them again.. i wasn't wasting 45 bucks.. needless to say i had a wonderful time with the lightning bugs and fairies that night lol


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: dsloan1977]
    #18901209 - 09/28/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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well the first time i ate shrooms i ate a whole 1/8.. I just shoved as many as i could in my mouth and swallowed lol.. rookie mistake!!! i ended up spewing all over the ground.. I was like S&*T and i bent down and dug them babies out and ate them again.. i wasn't wasting 45 bucks.. needless to say i had a wonderful time with the lightning bugs and fairies that night lol




:lol: I was the exact opposite, I did so much research beforehand I think I chewed each shroom for 15 minutes before swallowing haha. I was so obsessed with making sure I didn't trip any less than I was expecting. And boy was it fucking amazing.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18901457 - 09/28/13 03:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Establishing this as the "standard" is nothing more than psychedelic penis-measuring chauvinism.  It's like the frat bro at a party trying to convince a first-time drinker that they're being a pussy if they're not pounding a six-pack.  Plenty of people get exactly the sort of experience they need from smaller (and larger) doses.  Not to mention that (1) potency varies and (2) people's individual tolerance and mental fortitude varies.




thanks, you have perfectly phrased everything going through my mind reading his post.

OP, if you ever have access to a time machine and want to insist that your past self take 3.5g that's fine, and if you have friends or family who you feel you know well enough to advise, that's fine too.

however these experiences are subjective. they are affected by potency of the fruits, the sensitivity of the subject to psychedelics and their mental health/state. therefore, making sweeping generalisations with regard to mushroom dosage seems ridiculous to me.

i've seen people learn more from a 1.5g trip alone in darkness than on 5+ grams on a night with friends. there are far too many variables at play for a definitive dosage to be specified by anyone, and for you to attempt to do so in an "official" capacity is, in my opinion, hugely egotistical.

3.5g is a fair guideline to a "sweet spot" dose for experienced users, this is generally agreed upon. but to imply that it is a necessary dosage for all first timers, without knowledge of their situation, is irresponsible.

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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse] * 2
    #18901771 - 09/28/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Theres nothing official about this thread so I changed the title and you gave some very bad advice there.

Know those people in Jalapeno eating contests?  Turns out they have far less receptors to REGISTER the heat of the peppers than normal people. Their sense of taste is blunt, thats why they require more.

The same with 1/8oz for first doses.

If you ask 5300 Shroomerites over half say take 2 grams or less.

If you ask ALL serious literature on psilocybin since the 1960s they recommend to take 10-20mg psilocybin for a fully active dose.

These two vibe with each other because 2 grams of cubies contains 6-24mg of psilocybin, and 12mg on average.

By contrast, 1/8oz of cubies contains 10-40mg psilocybin with an average of 21 mg.  So what you're suggesting is that people take the maximum recommended dose by all the literature with the risk of DOUBLING that the first time out.

Lunacy.

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We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms.




We need to stop dosing like drunk adolescents and instead of taking such high doses that we burn out our ability to be moved by psychedelics, take modest doses and make the most of them with set and setting.

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We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms.




The real experience starts at 0.25 grams.

Its much more difficult to handle a low dose trip than a high dose trip. I know plenmty of trippers who trip on high doses and have no problems but who'd get in trouble on low doses.  Then they start whining that "they'd rather be sober" and how they're "bored".

Its easy to not deal with real issues by diving deep in a carnival of sensation. On low doses this is not so easy.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18901815 - 09/28/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18901818 - 09/28/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can have a lot of fun on an eighth.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18902179 - 09/28/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to reach and say that your caution is your biggest roadblock.

Seriously.

The fact that you're trying to argue that low dose shrooms is harder to handle than high dose shrooms is bullshit. Not only would the Trip Reports disagree, but the very science of the substance would. Boredom is not an issue here. That and the fact that it contradicts your argument that you should take a low dose on your first trip.

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18902197 - 09/28/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think I took 4g first time maybe, or was it 3.5g (1/8th)

good experience, not too intense, very nice CEVs

haven't had as good a trip since (it was with chocolates, so no nausea)

3.5g is a good default I think too, but it is important to stress how important set,setting is with shrooms

even a default dose can be intense in wrong set,setting  , shrooms are rarely as forgiving as LSD in my experience

I get no trip at all out of less than 3.5g, 3.5g is what I usually trip on
2.5g does nothing except light colors

turning off phone,hiding phone, locking doors should be mandatory with any psychedelic ,  till you become an experienced tripper and want to take the risk
turn off facebook too ;P

be a man, take 3.5g, and know what set/setting/dose means


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18902732 - 09/28/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have 20 years of tripping experience, how about you?


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18902848 - 09/28/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The real experience starts at 0.25 grams.




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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18902883 - 09/28/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms.





I agree.  I make it a point in my life to not pussyfoot around anything, especially not my psychedelics.  Awesome word choice by the way =D


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    #18902924 - 09/28/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

take 3.5g unless you know you can do with less
that's a moderate dose for most


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18903633 - 09/28/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with Wiccan. The ideal dose for a first timer is somewhere between 10-20mg. I would personally recommend 15mg. 15mg is a very comfortable, quality experience. 15mg is one of my favorite amounts to dose.

Start low. There's no reason a new user has to blow their mind. In fact, one of the recent studies involving psilocybin said that starting low and increasing dose resulted in better outcomes than starting high and decreasing dose.

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: nooneman]
    #18903684 - 09/28/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I ate a whole 1/4 my first time. I had a good ride despite a little bad tripping for a while. I had some great visuals and as my second time tripping, the first time on salvia, I wanted to go for it. So I munched out until I noticed it was gone and I had a wild trip. I think I know all I need to need about shrooms from the start so now when I do them I can guage my trip to where I want to be and know what to expect. It probably wasn't smart but I don't regret it. I would never recommend it but I can say for sure it set me up for a beautiful lifetime relationship with my favourite fungi.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #18906484 - 09/29/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thats what you get when you're sensitive and not blunted by tolerance. I can have very profound, moving experiences on 0.25gr. Its been over a decade that I needed more than 1gr of cubies to get where I need to be, I often redose for the rest of the day but each dose tends to be in the 0.25-1gr range.

Imagine forcing someone of my sensitivity to eat 1/8oz.  It would be traumatic.

To a person of my sensitivity "take no less than 1/8oz" sounds as idiotic as "take no less than 1/2 oz" sounds to you.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18906512 - 09/29/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Microdosing is always fun too  :biggrin:


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    #18907430 - 09/29/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Once you know how to let go you don't even really need drugs, sure they help a lot but I'm solid on the fact once you've tripped enough you know what your doing.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Lucid Toast]
    #18907567 - 09/29/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i think 3.5 is too much first time

i think a gram or 2 is better

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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: SnowDaze]
    #18910945 - 09/30/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

After asking on here about my first dose, I was told to take an 1/8 so I tried it and let me say...it kicked my arse from here to tomorrow and back.  It almost made me not want to try em ever again.  I would recommend 2.5 for the first dose personally......


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: dragonsmack]
    #18910983 - 09/30/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I took 3.5 my first time and it blew my fucking mind. I almost lost my shit completely during that trip but it ended up being an amazing experience


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    #18910986 - 09/30/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I can have very profound, moving experiences on 0.25gr.



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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18911018 - 09/30/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can't make absolute answers for something like this. You're rule is based on opinion and anecdote and could result in hurting someone. There is no way to create a formula to account for psilocybin content in mushrooms, a person's mass and health, set and setting, and expectations. There will always be gray zone.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Black_Sunset]
    #18911098 - 09/30/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm having a slow day so I ate 4 grams of Golden Teachers and will spend the afternoon tripping ballz.  Yummy!


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: mpd]
    #18911575 - 09/30/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If my first trip was from 3.5 grams it would have been a catastrophe. I'm all about starting low and working my way up. I need to control the drug, I don't want to let a drug control me.

When I was 14 I got curious about drugs. My dad was a doctor and he had a stash of all kinds of stuff. When my parents were out I went through his stash, wrote down all the drug names and then went to his study and looked them up in the PDR (Physicians desk reference). First of all, I wanted to know which ones would get me high. I didn't want to waste time taking a diuretic or my mom's heart medication. Secondly, I didn't want to screw my self up and end up in the hospital, so I looked at the side effects and dosages and experimented with low doses. My first high was from methaqualone (Quaaludes). I'm glad I didn't pop like 4 of them in my mouth, like most of my friends would have. One quaalude knocked me on my ass.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Universe]
    #18911604 - 09/30/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I had a serious car accident some 35 years ago.  I almost died in the wreck.  It was a miracle that saved my bacon.  That and quaaludes.  I ate a couple and had a belly full of brews and then floated some weed on top of all that and pretty soon I was in no shape whatsoever to be driving a car.

It was definitely a big mistake.  One of those whoppers that I look back on and wonder how in the fuck I managed to escape.  Definitely heard the cat meow on that one and kissed that nine life off.  Holy cow.  That'll make you sober!


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: mpd]
    #18911646 - 09/30/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

7 grams and up for a real psycadelic experience. you think the hippys only took 1/8th fuuuuuck no those mofos took hand fulls at a time.
keep it real 1/8th just tickles you brain a bit. you wanna be blown away and have some amazing altered conciseness take 7 grams in one session all at one time, drink a cup of honey ginger tea after relaxing and getting into a relaxed and calm state of mind and you'll have some compelling images and thoughts firing your neurons like crazy and you'll never one just take a 1/8th again. NOTE ONLY IF YOU ARE A STRONG MINDED PERSON AND CAN HANDLE INTESS EUFORIA AND ARE NOT SUICIDAL OR DEPRESSED IF YOU ARE STAY WITH THE LOW LOW DOSE.


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