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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18901129 - 09/27/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well the first time i ate shrooms i ate a whole 1/8.. I just shoved as many as i could in my mouth and swallowed lol.. rookie mistake!!! i ended up spewing all over the ground.. I was like S&*T and i bent down and dug them babies out and ate them again.. i wasn't wasting 45 bucks.. needless to say i had a wonderful time with the lightning bugs and fairies that night lol


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: dsloan1977]
    #18901209 - 09/28/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dsloan1977 said:
well the first time i ate shrooms i ate a whole 1/8.. I just shoved as many as i could in my mouth and swallowed lol.. rookie mistake!!! i ended up spewing all over the ground.. I was like S&*T and i bent down and dug them babies out and ate them again.. i wasn't wasting 45 bucks.. needless to say i had a wonderful time with the lightning bugs and fairies that night lol




:lol: I was the exact opposite, I did so much research beforehand I think I chewed each shroom for 15 minutes before swallowing haha. I was so obsessed with making sure I didn't trip any less than I was expecting. And boy was it fucking amazing.


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18901457 - 09/28/13 03:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Establishing this as the "standard" is nothing more than psychedelic penis-measuring chauvinism.  It's like the frat bro at a party trying to convince a first-time drinker that they're being a pussy if they're not pounding a six-pack.  Plenty of people get exactly the sort of experience they need from smaller (and larger) doses.  Not to mention that (1) potency varies and (2) people's individual tolerance and mental fortitude varies.




thanks, you have perfectly phrased everything going through my mind reading his post.

OP, if you ever have access to a time machine and want to insist that your past self take 3.5g that's fine, and if you have friends or family who you feel you know well enough to advise, that's fine too.

however these experiences are subjective. they are affected by potency of the fruits, the sensitivity of the subject to psychedelics and their mental health/state. therefore, making sweeping generalisations with regard to mushroom dosage seems ridiculous to me.

i've seen people learn more from a 1.5g trip alone in darkness than on 5+ grams on a night with friends. there are far too many variables at play for a definitive dosage to be specified by anyone, and for you to attempt to do so in an "official" capacity is, in my opinion, hugely egotistical.

3.5g is a fair guideline to a "sweet spot" dose for experienced users, this is generally agreed upon. but to imply that it is a necessary dosage for all first timers, without knowledge of their situation, is irresponsible.

if i was a mod on here i would edit this thread title.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse] * 2
    #18901771 - 09/28/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Theres nothing official about this thread so I changed the title and you gave some very bad advice there.

Know those people in Jalapeno eating contests?  Turns out they have far less receptors to REGISTER the heat of the peppers than normal people. Their sense of taste is blunt, thats why they require more.

The same with 1/8oz for first doses.

If you ask 5300 Shroomerites over half say take 2 grams or less.

If you ask ALL serious literature on psilocybin since the 1960s they recommend to take 10-20mg psilocybin for a fully active dose.

These two vibe with each other because 2 grams of cubies contains 6-24mg of psilocybin, and 12mg on average.

By contrast, 1/8oz of cubies contains 10-40mg psilocybin with an average of 21 mg.  So what you're suggesting is that people take the maximum recommended dose by all the literature with the risk of DOUBLING that the first time out.

Lunacy.

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We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms.




We need to stop dosing like drunk adolescents and instead of taking such high doses that we burn out our ability to be moved by psychedelics, take modest doses and make the most of them with set and setting.

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We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms.




The real experience starts at 0.25 grams.

Its much more difficult to handle a low dose trip than a high dose trip. I know plenmty of trippers who trip on high doses and have no problems but who'd get in trouble on low doses.  Then they start whining that "they'd rather be sober" and how they're "bored".

Its easy to not deal with real issues by diving deep in a carnival of sensation. On low doses this is not so easy.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18901815 - 09/28/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18901818 - 09/28/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can have a lot of fun on an eighth.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18902179 - 09/28/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to reach and say that your caution is your biggest roadblock.

Seriously.

The fact that you're trying to argue that low dose shrooms is harder to handle than high dose shrooms is bullshit. Not only would the Trip Reports disagree, but the very science of the substance would. Boredom is not an issue here. That and the fact that it contradicts your argument that you should take a low dose on your first trip.

How do you really feel?


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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18902197 - 09/28/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think I took 4g first time maybe, or was it 3.5g (1/8th)

good experience, not too intense, very nice CEVs

haven't had as good a trip since (it was with chocolates, so no nausea)

3.5g is a good default I think too, but it is important to stress how important set,setting is with shrooms

even a default dose can be intense in wrong set,setting  , shrooms are rarely as forgiving as LSD in my experience

I get no trip at all out of less than 3.5g, 3.5g is what I usually trip on
2.5g does nothing except light colors

turning off phone,hiding phone, locking doors should be mandatory with any psychedelic ,  till you become an experienced tripper and want to take the risk
turn off facebook too ;P

be a man, take 3.5g, and know what set/setting/dose means


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18902732 - 09/28/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have 20 years of tripping experience, how about you?


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18902848 - 09/28/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
The real experience starts at 0.25 grams.




:confused:  You feel anything at that dose?


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18902883 - 09/28/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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We need to stop pussyfooting around mushrooms.





I agree.  I make it a point in my life to not pussyfoot around anything, especially not my psychedelics.  Awesome word choice by the way =D


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18902924 - 09/28/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

take 3.5g unless you know you can do with less
that's a moderate dose for most


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18903633 - 09/28/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with Wiccan. The ideal dose for a first timer is somewhere between 10-20mg. I would personally recommend 15mg. 15mg is a very comfortable, quality experience. 15mg is one of my favorite amounts to dose.

Start low. There's no reason a new user has to blow their mind. In fact, one of the recent studies involving psilocybin said that starting low and increasing dose resulted in better outcomes than starting high and decreasing dose.

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Re: [the official] Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: nooneman]
    #18903684 - 09/28/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I ate a whole 1/4 my first time. I had a good ride despite a little bad tripping for a while. I had some great visuals and as my second time tripping, the first time on salvia, I wanted to go for it. So I munched out until I noticed it was gone and I had a wild trip. I think I know all I need to need about shrooms from the start so now when I do them I can guage my trip to where I want to be and know what to expect. It probably wasn't smart but I don't regret it. I would never recommend it but I can say for sure it set me up for a beautiful lifetime relationship with my favourite fungi.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #18906484 - 09/29/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thats what you get when you're sensitive and not blunted by tolerance. I can have very profound, moving experiences on 0.25gr. Its been over a decade that I needed more than 1gr of cubies to get where I need to be, I often redose for the rest of the day but each dose tends to be in the 0.25-1gr range.

Imagine forcing someone of my sensitivity to eat 1/8oz.  It would be traumatic.

To a person of my sensitivity "take no less than 1/8oz" sounds as idiotic as "take no less than 1/2 oz" sounds to you.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Asante]
    #18906512 - 09/29/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Microdosing is always fun too  :biggrin:


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: ChinChiller]
    #18907430 - 09/29/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Once you know how to let go you don't even really need drugs, sure they help a lot but I'm solid on the fact once you've tripped enough you know what your doing.


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: Lucid Toast]
    #18907567 - 09/29/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i think 3.5 is too much first time

i think a gram or 2 is better

everyone reacts differently


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: SnowDaze]
    #18910945 - 09/30/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

After asking on here about my first dose, I was told to take an 1/8 so I tried it and let me say...it kicked my arse from here to tomorrow and back.  It almost made me not want to try em ever again.  I would recommend 2.5 for the first dose personally......


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Re: Absolutely take 1/8 of shrooms your first time and stop asking thread. [Re: dragonsmack]
    #18910983 - 09/30/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I took 3.5 my first time and it blew my fucking mind. I almost lost my shit completely during that trip but it ended up being an amazing experience


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