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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #18891896 - 09/25/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Dead balls accurate advice right here^
Knowledgeable dude.

  Hey op. spiritual grounds: did you meet mother aya by chance?




By spiritual grounds I just meant my basic beliefs in the subject of dying related to spiritual information. Which erases any reason for fear, I actually have ingested a small amount and as of now the only notable difference is a short increase in heart rate and a strange tingly feeling in my stomach.


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
    #18892011 - 09/25/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'd recommend you induce vomiting. By all means don't eat any more. Keep us updated.


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: o8u]
    #18892028 - 09/25/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Upon exposure to amatoxins, the liver is the principal organ affected as it is the organ which is first encountered after absorption in the gastrointestinal tract. While ingestion is the primary mode of exposure, amatoxins can be absorbed through the skin and also inhaled, thus affecting other organs such as the kidneys and heart, are susceptible. More specifically, exposure to amotoxins may cause irritation of the respiratory tract, headache, dizziness, nausea, shortness of breath, coughing, insomnia, diarrhea, gastrointestinal disturbances, back pain, urinary frequency, liver and kidney damage, or death if ingested or inhaled. For example, If β-amanitin comes in contact with skin, it may cause irritation, burns, redness, severe pain, and could be absorbed through the skin, causing similar effects to exposure via inhalation and ingestion. Contact with the eyes may result in irritation, corneal burns, and eye damage. Persons with pre-existing skin, eye, or central nervous systems disorders, impaired liver, kidney, or pulmonary function may be more susceptible to the effects of this substance. [11]The estimated minimum lethal dose is 0.1 mg/kg or 7 mg of toxin in adults. Their swift intestinal absorption coupled with their thermostability leads to rapid development of toxic effects in a relatively short period of time. The most severe effects are toxic hepatitis with centrolobular necrosis and hepatic steatosis, as well as acute tubulointerstitial nephropathy, which altogether induce a severe hepatorenal syndrome.




If you think you have been exposed to amatoxins, get to a hospital as soon as possible and show them this post.


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: o8u]
    #18892081 - 09/26/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I believe I'm okay for now, I have a slight lack of coordination and lost part of my ability to pay attention to things but nothing extremely notable. I think I'm going to follow your advice though and induce vomiting soon just in case.


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
    #18892140 - 09/26/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Fwiw, I live in North ga and those look similar to the A. muscaria persicina that I have found... but something seems off. The warts on the mushrooms I've found have usually been more evenly distributed across the cap and have been white. The stem seems different too.

It doesn't look like one of the deadly amanitas though.

It is usually a good idea to wait for a TI before consuming shrooms that you find.


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: DCart]
    #18892309 - 09/26/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting, it's been a while since I consumed the caps skin and nothing any stranger than my feet tingling and a one minute period where I jumped up and felt the need to jokingly say "what? what?" over and over again has happened. These turned out not to seem what they did at first, oh well hopefully I can eventually find some potent A. Muscaria around here.


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
    #18892341 - 09/26/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I believe amatoxin poisoning takes at least 6 hours for the first symptoms.  If anything happens after the 6 hour mark I recommend PM'ing Alan Rockefeller for further advice.


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Peteza34]
    #18892883 - 09/26/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Did you read the link I posted about fly agaric hunting before eating? PM a TI if you're unsure.

1) I'm pretty sure all the deadly Amanitas are white-capped.
2) I've -heard- the high you described was that of amanita muscaria, but ask someone who does it regularly.
3) the warts are remnants of the universal veil and are moveable.
4) I'm not certain what the trees are that are mycorrhizal with other yellow Amanitas, but check.
5) check amanitaceae.org for more info on Amanitas
6) if in doubt, throw it out!


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18893226 - 09/26/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not so sure about those being amanita persicina... the concentric rings on the base of a. persicina are fragile but I didn't even notice remnants of it.... both the stipend and gills should be white.... and there are definitely amanitas that are DEADLY that don't have white caps... man be careful with amanitas, nothing to play around with!
After a second look at those, I really don't think those are amanita persicina. It just looks very off to me... could just be me tho, I guess. I'm not a T.I. and haven't found millions of them, but I have found and consumed them on several occasions and something just looks, not quite right... but what do I know.... just be careful.


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
    #18893232 - 09/26/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

These are probably Amanita parcivolvata but it's hard to tell because your photos are horrible. In any case they lack the identifying features of Amanita muscaria.

You will probably be fine this time but eating unidentified Amanitas is a moronic thing to do.


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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: TimmiT]
    #18893243 - 09/26/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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