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Offlinebinny1070
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Question about lsd and SSRI'S
    #18892850 - 09/26/13 06:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have or was on sertraline for about 4 years a 50mg dose. About 6 weeks ago I stopped them, this was under the care of my dr. I feel as in I am a good place in my life. Better than I have ever been. So on to my question, last night I tried to trip for my first time, and while I had a great time nothing really happened, I mean I felt kind of like I was really stoned, everything was very funny, and that was it. I took 260ish ug, and so did my friend. He was off the wall, having the time of his life, so I know the dose was right, and the lsd was good. How long does it take for my brain to recover. I checked out the half life of sertraline and it should be out of my system by now? Has anyone else who has taken a ssri long term ran into this? Thanks for the help


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: binny1070]
    #18896650 - 09/26/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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binny1070 said:
I have or was on sertraline for about 4 years a 50mg dose. About 6 weeks ago I stopped them, this was under the care of my dr. I feel as in I am a good place in my life. Better than I have ever been. So on to my question, last night I tried to trip for my first time, and while I had a great time nothing really happened, I mean I felt kind of like I was really stoned, everything was very funny, and that was it. I took 260ish ug, and so did my friend. He was off the wall, having the time of his life, so I know the dose was right, and the lsd was good. How long does it take for my brain to recover. I checked out the half life of sertraline and it should be out of my system by now? Has anyone else who has taken a ssri long term ran into this? Thanks for the help



don't quote me as I am not a doctor but I do believe that your receptors take an extended period of time fully return to normal, even after the drug has left your system (explains the half life part).  6 weeks seems a bit excessive, but then again, you were taking them for 4 years straight, which is longer than I have done.  give it another two weeks and see...?


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: westthebest]
    #18896750 - 09/26/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree, 6 weeks seems like plenty of time.  I was on citalopram for like a year, during which time I took acid one day after stopping my meds cold turkey a couple days before.  I noticed some effects but nothing like my friends did, which seems like your case.  And then I stopped the meds and took it again like 4 weeks after stopping and it was fucking amazing!! 

Anyway, since you were on it longer, maybe westthebest is right and your body needs more time to adjust.  It certainly takes me longer to get to a baseline for MJ tolerance, like a couple months, since I use it almost every day.  Or maybe the dose was wrong and your friend was experiencing a placebo effect.  The anticipation of a trip can really heighten it sometimes.


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: chemicallyaltered]
    #18896967 - 09/27/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree, 6 weeks seems like plenty of time.  I was on citalopram for like a year, during which time I took acid one day after stopping my meds cold turkey a couple days before.  I noticed some effects but nothing like my friends did, which seems like your case.  And then I stopped the meds and took it again like 4 weeks after stopping and it was fucking amazing!! 

Anyway, since you were on it longer, maybe westthebest is right and your body needs more time to adjust.  It certainly takes me longer to get to a baseline for MJ tolerance, like a couple months, since I use it almost every day.  Or maybe the dose was wrong and your friend was experiencing a placebo effect.  The anticipation of a trip can really heighten it sometimes.



forgot to mention that when I went off zoloft previously at one point I took shrooms at two weeks and if I remember correctly again at 4 weeks, really didn't feel much at all, so I guess 6 weeks isn't too outlandish.  only time will tell I guess.


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: chemicallyaltered]
    #18897520 - 09/27/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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chemicallyaltered said:
I agree, 6 weeks seems like plenty of time.  I was on citalopram for like a year, during which time I took acid one day after stopping my meds cold turkey a couple days before.  I noticed some effects but nothing like my friends did, which seems like your case.  And then I stopped the meds and took it again like 4 weeks after stopping and it was fucking amazing!! 

Anyway, since you were on it longer, maybe westthebest is right and your body needs more time to adjust.  It certainly takes me longer to get to a baseline for MJ tolerance, like a couple months, since I use it almost every day.  Or maybe the dose was wrong and your friend was experiencing a placebo effect.  The anticipation of a trip can really heighten it sometimes.




Don't think the dose was wrong, he is very exprerinced. I think I will wait a month and try agian. He felt so bad, kept saying he wishes I could see what he was, we are both in our 30's and I figured it would be nice to have somone that has done it a before with me. I did all my research and planned out what I thought would be the perfect dose. He said it was one of the best trips he has ever had. "Everything was alive" that's all he kept saying. For me everything was just funny. My face hurt from laughing so much, but that was it for me. I just don't want to waist more. Only have 6 micro dots left. Guess I wait wait one more month. Everyone tells me it will be worth it. I hope so! Thanks for the help.


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: binny1070]
    #18897567 - 09/27/13 06:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think I'm gonna go with 225micrograms of LSZ and go for a bike ride :yogabunny:


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18898539 - 09/27/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Shit wrong thread


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: binny1070]
    #18901513 - 09/28/13 04:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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binny1070 said:
Guess I wait wait one more month.




if you're already at 6 weeks give er a go in 2 I say!  slightly off topic, does anyone have experience with snris and psychedelics?


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: westthebest]
    #18901704 - 09/28/13 06:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Difference: ssris are fucking evil and only make you more stable because they sap the color out of your soul and turn you into a careless robot zombie emotionless cold Big Pharma fucking experiment.

Psychedelics do the precise opposite, which is why ssris and anti psychotics eliminate the ability to trip.

I say this with YEARS of experience taking ssris on and off. I know allllllll about their effects FIRST HAND. I'm glad they didn't presently ruin my ability to trip..in fact despite years of ssris from childhood, I trip just as hard if not harder than all my friends.


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18904598 - 09/28/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:facepalm3: ^^^@MagicalOrangutan there is nothing evil about SSRIs read a little pharmacology from my fabulous mind lol. What SSRIs do is bind to the SERT (serotonin transporters) causing the SERT to not have enough free bonding points for the 5-ht(serotonin) to bind to thus making it hard to do it's job of bringing the 5-ht to the post synaptic neuron for recyclation. Thus the neurotransmition of 5-ht significantly increases in the synaptic cleft, this is why SSRIs increase mood. 5-ht is a pleasure neurotransmitter. No evil life sucking magic goin on here.

The reason you have to take a much larger dose of a psychedelic is, traditional psychedelics; lsd, psilocin, mescaline, etc are 5-ht agonists which mean they mimic 5-ht. There is already over neurotransmition going on in the synaptic cleft, on a ssri, so when the drug is introduced to the cleft it has a big competition for receptor binding sites. The drug is out numbered by 5-ht and both want to bind and activate the receptor too. Some high 5-ht2 affinity psychedelics may be better for people on SSRIs, one that have high ki value(the "magnetic" pull to the receptor) I couldnt give u an example off the top of my head but if u wanna kno I'll find a few for u.

:rolleyes: SSRIs DO NOT do the opposite of psychedelics. Some SSRIs r psychedelic! MDMA, MDA, bk-MDMA, 6-apb, and maybe ketamine, and a lot more. Do not take any of the previous if ur on a regular ssri, u can get serotonin sydrom and die. The opposite of a psychedelic would be a serotonin antagonist, like thorazine. There's a few diffent ways an antagonist can work but what it does is prevent the neurotransmitter/drug from reaching the receptor to activate it usually by binding to the recpeptor. Antagonists are generally bad drugs except NMDA antagonists. But they are very useful in medicine.

Taking 5-htp gives the same end result of possible over transmission even thought it's mechanism of action is nothing like an ssri. It wouldnt be as extreme tho because the 5-ht is still being recycled properly by the SERTs, they just have a much harder job theyre not being impaired.


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18904621 - 09/28/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck SSRIs.


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18904658 - 09/28/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

^u just don't like them cuz u can't trip on them right lol? They're really too over prescribed but they treat the most common mental problems. IMO 5-htp is a much better option it metabolises into 5-ht and doesn't mess with the SERT or any other natural functions of the brain.


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18904703 - 09/28/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No, read the side effects and you'll see why I dislike them. Had a ex gf who took em. Turned her into a zombie. I think she was already a cold hearted bitch without them though so I can't blame em for that. We went three weeks without talking once because of those things AND we lived together. I couldnt get her to hold a conversation, it was BAD. I mean she wouldn't talk about anything and she wouldn't do anything but sit around and occasionally get on the computer.


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18905713 - 09/29/13 03:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes ssris are fucking evil because they do nothing for actual neurologically based depression which is probably more related to structural problems of ones neurons and their connections to other neurons based on my research.

The only reason why sadness would be caused by low serotonin is if you like, lost your puppy. Actual depression is more about the physical nature of your brain and neurons.

And yes, I'm not ashamed to say that part of why ssris are fucking satanic is because you can't experience the cosmic beauty that is psychedelia, on them. That's a very legitimate reason to call them evil


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18905719 - 09/29/13 03:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, and the ultimate reason why they're satanic and not much better than barbaric caveman style lobotomies is because they are neurotoxic and fuck up your brain for good, unless you're lucky. I think I may have been one of the lucky ones


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Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
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That makes the heart's eye cry
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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18905736 - 09/29/13 03:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sadness caused by low serotonin = you got dumped or your puppy got rolled over. Actual neurologically based depression is about the structure of your neurons physically and spatially, not low neurotransmitters. Based on research. Genuine depression is not a "chemical imbalance" that ssris or maois can help.

Oh and the ultimate reason why ssris are fucking evil barbaric modern day lobotomies is because they damage your brain and it's ability to use serotonin like it normally does, permanently unless you are a lucky recoverer from these evil drugs. I think I may have been one of the lucky ones..


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Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
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It's all in the mind


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18905826 - 09/29/13 04:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

totally forgot about the complete lack of credible, accurate information about antidepressants on this forum.  cheers op, hope all goes well


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: westthebest]
    #18906175 - 09/29/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I love ssris.  Turned my cock into a porno cock.  I can screw with the best of them now a days.  lol...

But I did have a couple "Gummy Bears" apparently hit up with some good ol' lsd.  A few people that took them did trip, but most of us didn't.  Then again, I think most of us are on ssri's.

I had switched from sertraline to prozac at one point - bad idea.  Like a lot have said, it's an emotional eraser for some folks.  Fooked me up bad!  But I love my zoloft, works like a charm.

Have fun all...


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: binny1070]
    #18906228 - 09/29/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

so feeling really stoned and weird is how i feel sometimes tripping. also I've taken very low doses and had stronger experiences than high doses sometimes. That said it took me about  12 months to feel normal again after 4 years on ssri.. Psyches are smart imo. Just take what you can learn from the experience


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Re: Question about lsd and SSRI'S [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18906394 - 09/29/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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so feeling really stoned and weird is how i feel sometimes tripping. also I've taken very low doses and had stronger experiences than high doses sometimes. That said it took me about  12 months to feel normal again after 4 years on ssri.. Psyches are smart imo. Just take what you can learn from the experience




Thanks, they really did help me, I'm not sure why some think they are evil? If you work with a good dr they can find out what works best for you. Glad to here that someday I may be able to trip.


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