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297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol
    #18892398 - 09/26/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

September 25, 2013

Texas- A game warden was contacted by U.S. Border Patrol about some peyote cactus they had found on a ranch. The federal agents were tracking illegal immigrants when they found three burlap sacks full of peyote, and the warden was contacted to help them dispose of it. The total weight of the peyote was 297 pounds with a value of almost $24,000.

http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/west_university/sports/game-warden-field-notes/article_c3703758-261d-11e3-874c-001a4bcf887a.html

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Ogla] * 4
    #18892431 - 09/26/13 02:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what a waste of an endangered plant. "Dispose of it".


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Durin] * 4
    #18892481 - 09/26/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Durin]
    #18892695 - 09/26/13 05:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Durin said:
what a waste of an endangered plant. "Dispose of it".




Waste?  Most DEFINITELY.  Endangered plant?  Ummmm...no.

There are HUGE stocks of plants and seeds all around the globe.  There are many countries (Canada, UK and Germany) where they are outright legal or growing them is not frowned upon.  Hell, you can even buy seeds and year-old (and older!)plants from suppliers in this country on e-gay if you know how to search and what to look for.  :cool:

I belong to a forum where a coop-purchasers will buy 5,000 - 10,000 seeds at a time.  Believe me, peyote is not an endangered plant.

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18892962 - 09/26/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If I come across any peyote it will be endangered of being consumed


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: allseeingike]
    #18892968 - 09/26/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lolsy:

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: allseeingike]
    #18893210 - 09/26/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If I come across any peyote it will be endangered of being consumed


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18893460 - 09/26/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nature Boy said:
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Durin said:
what a waste of an endangered plant. "Dispose of it".




Waste?  Most DEFINITELY.  Endangered plant?  Ummmm...no.

There are HUGE stocks of plants and seeds all around the globe.  There are many countries (Canada, UK and Germany) where they are outright legal or growing them is not frowned upon.  Hell, you can even buy seeds and year-old (and older!)plants from suppliers in this country on e-gay if you know how to search and what to look for.  :cool:

I belong to a forum where a coop-purchasers will buy 5,000 - 10,000 seeds at a time.  Believe me, peyote is not an endangered plant.

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endangered in the wild tho..


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18893648 - 09/26/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

peyote is not endangered in the wild... Do some research.

The stands in Texas are threatened because of lack of conservation, while to the south in mexico there are massive stands in areas that are practically untouched. Try not to be so anglo centric brah.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: 2859558484]
    #18893679 - 09/26/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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wowitch17 said:
peyote is not endangered in the wild... Do some research.

The stands in Texas are threatened because of lack of conservation, while to the south in mexico there are massive stands in areas that are practically untouched. Try not to be so anglo centric brah.



thats all I've ever read that on the internet and in articles.

In a few places, so I don't even believe you without a source.

I don't even know what anglo centric is, but I wasn't rude any way. So i don't care.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: 2859558484]
    #18893684 - 09/26/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Peyote is not endangered but it is certainly under a lot of pressure with the root plowing of huge tracts of desert and overharvesting in Mexico. A thousand buttons sells for 350 usd at the gardens. That haul of three sacks aint worth 24k by a long shot.....


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #18894935 - 09/26/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Peyote is certainly endangered in Texas.  As someone who cares about psychedelic Americana, that's bad news and if the game warden doesn't graft or plant any viable buttons then it's a real loss...


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #18895025 - 09/26/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Peyote is not endangered but it is certainly under a lot of pressure with the root plowing of huge tracts of desert and overharvesting in Mexico. A thousand buttons sells for 350 usd at the gardens. That haul of three sacks aint worth 24k by a long shot.....





Where are these gardens you speak of


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: fee]
    #18895138 - 09/26/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That'dthe way of nature.  Things go away after time. You can't save everything.  Its just cactus without all that bullshit religion or fake "mystical experience" junk attached. 

Mescaline can be synthesized so why bother with a one stupid cacti?


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st] * 1
    #18895589 - 09/26/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, "it's just a cactus" but no creature, cactus or otherwise should have to be subject to wanton destruction  just because of the prohibition-laden mindset of idiot politicians.

Luckily there are a lot of folks who are dedicated to propagating the cactus in private the world over.  Mad respect to those folks.

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Ogla]
    #18895634 - 09/26/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Of all the stories of drugs being seized by authorities, this one is a real downer.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Into The Woods]
    #18895647 - 09/26/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ok for things things become extinct its the way of natures evolution. 

This stuff happened without human intervention in the past its going to continue.
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Of all the stories of drugs being seized by authorities, this one is a real downer.



How is this any different? How is this cactus so much worse?


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st]
    #18897681 - 09/27/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:
That'dthe way of nature.  Things go away after time. You can't save everything.  Its just cactus without all that bullshit religion or fake "mystical experience" junk attached. 

Mescaline can be synthesized so why bother with a one stupid cacti?




But all the the religious experience and connotations are attatched...and that "mystical experience" is quite real, I guarantee you.  The cacti actually having psychoactive chemicals tends to do that.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18897978 - 09/27/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh you mean bullshit?


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st]
    #18898058 - 09/27/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What in the world are you doing on a shroom website?


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st] * 2
    #18898108 - 09/27/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:

Mescaline can be synthesized so why bother with a one stupid cacti?




Wow.  Your ignorance is showing once again.  Peyote cacti contain DOZENS of active alkaloids in addition to mescaline that make the experience of ingesting them unique and distinguishable from the experience produced solely by mescaline.  Get your facts straight and then maybe your opinion can be taken more seriously.

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18898113 - 09/27/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nature Boy said:
Quote:

dark3st said:

Mescaline can be synthesized so why bother with a one stupid cacti?




Wow.  Your ignorance is showing once again.  Peyote cacti contain DOZENS of active alkaloids in addition to mescaline that make the experience of ingesting them unique and distinguishable from the experience produced solely by mescaline.  Get your facts straight and then maybe your opinion can be taken more seriously.

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he seems like a total ******, and has a rating of 1/5. So I just ignore him lol. not literally with the ignore list



Mod edit:  no flaming


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18898132 - 09/27/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
Quote:

Nature Boy said:
Quote:

dark3st said:

Mescaline can be synthesized so why bother with a one stupid cacti?




Wow.  Your ignorance is showing once again.  Peyote cacti contain DOZENS of active alkaloids in addition to mescaline that make the experience of ingesting them unique and distinguishable from the experience produced solely by mescaline.  Get your facts straight and then maybe your opinion can be taken more seriou
he seems like a total douche, and has a rating of 1/5. So I just ignore him lol. not literally with the ignore list




So does T.B cacti. Its still just a fucken cacti. I was only talking about mescaline not the others. Rating don't mean shit. You guys use that like a popular Gage of "my opinions are all the same as yours, lets be fuck buddies"

How was I supposed to have my facts straight when all I said was mescaline can be synthesized?  The only fact I said was true so what the fuck are you talking about?

Its just a fucken cacti. It can make you trip that's all their is to it. Nothing magical about it. We trip on it all the time. Sure it feels mystical but then I'm able to come back to reality unlike most of you.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st]
    #18898142 - 09/27/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

dark3st said:
Quote:

rbalzer said:
Quote:

Nature Boy said:
Quote:

dark3st said:

Mescaline can be synthesized so why bother with a one stupid cacti?




Wow.  Your ignorance is showing once again.  Peyote cacti contain DOZENS of active alkaloids in addition to mescaline that make the experience of ingesting them unique and distinguishable from the experience produced solely by mescaline.  Get your facts straight and then maybe your opinion can be taken more seriou
he seems like a total douche, and has a rating of 1/5. So I just ignore him lol. not literally with the ignore list




So does T.B cacti. Its still just a fucken cacti. I was only talking about mescaline not the others. Rating don't mean shit. You guys use that like a popular Gage of "my opinions are all the same as yours, lets be fuck buddies"

How was I supposed to have my facts straight when all I said was mescaline can be synthesized?  The only fact I said was true so what the fuck are you talking about?

Its just a fucken cacti. It can make you trip that's all their is to it. Nothing magical about it. We trip on it all the time. Sure it feels mystical but then I'm able to come back to reality unlike most of you.



so you basically are mad right now because other people see more in the cacti's psychoactive properties than you?

thats like getting mad at people for believing in god.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18898148 - 09/27/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How the fuck am I mad?

Its just a cacti. You all are getting pissed like I killed your mom or some shit.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st] * 1
    #18898152 - 09/27/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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How the fuck am I mad?

Its just a cacti. You all are getting pissed like I killed your mom or some shit.



well, listen to your tone...it's not that hard to see how you could come off as mad with a fuck thrown into every sentence.

There's no point bickering with you if you're that :whatever:

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18898184 - 09/27/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
Quote:

dark3st said:
How the fuck am I mad?

Its just a cacti. You all are getting pissed like I killed your mom or some shit.



well, listen to your tone...it's not that hard to see how you could come off as mad with a fuck thrown into every sentence.

There's no point bickering with you if you're that stupid bro :whatever:




And I'm the troll? My tone is mono, and lets not forget it's text not voice chat...

This is a forum for discussion not flaming like you all do to me for no reasion.  If you can voice your opinion senseless that's all it will be.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st]
    #18898241 - 09/27/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:
Quote:

rbalzer said:
Quote:

dark3st said:
How the fuck am I mad?

Its just a cacti. You all are getting pissed like I killed your mom or some shit.



well, listen to your tone...it's not that hard to see how you could come off as mad with a fuck thrown into every sentence.

There's no point bickering with you if you're that stupid bro :whatever:




And I'm the troll? My tone is mono, and lets not forget it's text not voice chat...

This is a forum for discussion not flaming like you all do to me for no reasion.  If you can voice your opinion senseless that's all it will be.



everything you say doesn't seem to be based in reality. These people had a reason to flame you, it happens to everyone, get over it or gtfo


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18898404 - 09/27/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote exactly what's not based in reality.  Your :facepalm:


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st]
    #18898618 - 09/27/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:
That'dthe way of nature.  Things go away after time. You can't save everything.  Its just cactus without all that bullshit religion or fake "mystical experience" junk attached. 

Mescaline can be synthesized so why bother with a one stupid cacti?




Done.  :grin:


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18898654 - 09/27/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ok what about that is unrealistic?



Nature goes through so many changes. That's why were not primitive anymore because we evolved with things around us. If things don't change with nature then its doomed to be killed off.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st]
    #18898659 - 09/27/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I grow the shit out of peyote and I don't buy into the mystical stuff at all.  But people should be free to call a plant sacred if it means a lot to them.

Nearly all cacti species have trace amounts of mescaline or other alkaloids in them so it seems silly to me personally to call any plant a "spirit plant" or similar.  The alkaloids are just a product of evolution and aren't there for the sole purpose of human consumption like some want to believe.  But I still support people believing whatever the hell they want to believe in, it's their business and not mine.  It's just a beautiful cactus to cultivate and with me being near its native habitat, it was an easy choice to start growing for the sake of growing.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: SuperD]
    #18898686 - 09/27/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was saying that. Just different words. Be prepared to be flamed and trolled by closed minded punks.

Ya people can believe what they want. But don't (not you) try and tell me "how a drug is supposed to be used" because that's all it is to me, A DRUG.

Also I grow may cactus as well fun little things to watch grow. though they are slow. But amazing part of nature (all cactusl


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: SuperD]
    #18898743 - 09/27/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SuperD said:
I grow the shit out of peyote and I don't buy into the mystical stuff at all.  But people should be free to call a plant sacred if it means a lot to them.

Nearly all cacti species have trace amounts of mescaline or other alkaloids in them so it seems silly to me personally to call any plant a "spirit plant" or similar.  The alkaloids are just a product of evolution and aren't there for the sole purpose of human consumption like some want to believe.  But I still support people believing whatever the hell they want to believe in, it's their business and not mine.  It's just a beautiful cactus to cultivate and with me being near its native habitat, it was an easy choice to start growing for the sake of growing.




Oh, hey, look, it is possible to disagree with the sacred nature of psychedelic cacti without denying and devaluing people's personal experiences.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18898771 - 09/27/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ok can show me where I did that?

Each time you try and prove yourself you've been wrong.

Your reading shit wrong. You have terrible reading comprehension...


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st]
    #18898849 - 09/27/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Let's see...right here:

Quote:

dark3st said:
Its just cactus without all that bullshit religion or fake "mystical experience" junk attached.

Mescaline can be synthesized so why bother with a one stupid cacti?




and here:

Quote:

dark3st said:
Oh you mean bullshit?




You haven't delivered a well-reasoned argument in one single post on this thread, much less "proved someone wrong".  And then you claim people are "reading shit wrong" in that they're taking your foul language to signify an angry reaction...sheesh.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18898863 - 09/27/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ya those are my opinions.  I never said they are fact. Again what proof, and how are you putting out anything different?your just a troll. Ignored


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18898947 - 09/27/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

rbalzer said:
Quote:

wowitch17 said:
peyote is not endangered in the wild... Do some research.

The stands in Texas are threatened because of lack of conservation, while to the south in mexico there are massive stands in areas that are practically untouched. Try not to be so anglo centric brah.



thats all I've ever read that on the internet and in articles.

In a few places, so I don't even believe you without a source.

I don't even know what anglo centric is, but I wasn't rude any way. So i don't care.





http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/wildlife_diversity/texas_rare_species/listed_species/

http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs/rmrs_p048/rmrs_p048_115_121.pdf

“There are as yet no U.S.
regulations to protect peyote
as a species, as it does not
(yet) meet the criteria
of the Endangered Species
Act for ‘threatened’ or
‘endangered’ status.

-Martin Terry, Ph.D., Department of Biology, Texas A&M University



please show me where peyote is listed.

HINT: its not


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: 2859558484]
    #18899086 - 09/27/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Aye thanks for those links. And helping put this into perspective as I was talking as if it were almost extinct due to what others said and I should had done my own reading. +5


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18899215 - 09/27/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: spore baby]
    #18899232 - 09/27/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Like crack crack or fat cracks?


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: 2859558484]
    #18899520 - 09/27/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

wowitch17 said:
Quote:

rbalzer said:
Quote:

wowitch17 said:
peyote is not endangered in the wild... Do some research.

The stands in Texas are threatened because of lack of conservation, while to the south in mexico there are massive stands in areas that are practically untouched. Try not to be so anglo centric brah.



thats all I've ever read that on the internet and in articles.

In a few places, so I don't even believe you without a source.

I don't even know what anglo centric is, but I wasn't rude any way. So i don't care.





http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/wildlife_diversity/texas_rare_species/listed_species/

http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs/rmrs_p048/rmrs_p048_115_121.pdf

“There are as yet no U.S.
regulations to protect peyote
as a species, as it does not
(yet) meet the criteria
of the Endangered Species
Act for ‘threatened’ or
‘endangered’ status.

-Martin Terry, Ph.D., Department of Biology, Texas A&M University



please show me where peyote is listed.

HINT: its not



http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14064806

Hey I found multiple sites just now that say the opposite. Guess you'll have to stop being a condescending asshole and actually explain why you're right.

Maybe its not on the endangered list in america because our government wants it to die?

I don't remember being a dick in this thread, So I'm really fucking sick of your shit.

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18899543 - 09/27/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/peyote/peyote_law.shtml

look even erowid seems to think it might be somewhat endangered in at least some countries. ready to get off your high horse yet and have a real discussion?


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18899556 - 09/27/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Says he finds multiple sites, lists NPR :lolsy:

"Maybe they want it to die" you just lost any credibility


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st]
    #18899591 - 09/27/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

dark3st said:
Says he finds multiple sites, lists NPR :lolsy:

"Maybe they want it to die" you just lost any credibility



your inability to discuss this with me is off putting.



Why wouldn't they want a plant illegal in their country to not exist in their country? You're the one losing credibility with your nonsensical responses.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18899599 - 09/27/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lolsy: me and my friends are LOAO


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: dark3st]
    #18899601 - 09/27/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, I'm just scratching my head. Starting to think you're not worth talking to

You haven't said anything logical in a long time.


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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18900583 - 09/27/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You do understand that "endangered" and "threatened" are official classifications right? And not just something someone said at some point.

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Re: 297 pounds of peyote found by border patrol [Re: 2859558484]
    #18900677 - 09/27/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Y'all need to take a break, calm down, and chill out. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. No need to get so worked up. If peyote is sacred to you, GREAT!!! If not, fair enough. Everyone here has a fair opinion.


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