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Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena
    #18888516 - 09/25/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Greetings friends!

I have searched the threads and have yet to find relevant information, if you know where this information can be found, please redirect my attention...

I would like to ask your perspective/personal experience on the subject of meaningful coincidence within "natural" phenomena while tripping.  Personally, these experiences are under the influence of mushrooms and 25i, respectively.

When I trip mushrooms, my cell phone dies and the screen appears severely cracked. The device will not operate again until after the trip has concluded. This has happened twice.

As with the 25i, I find myself on the shore of the local lake observing an extremely intense suction of air into a complex system of storm clouds.  This has occurred twice as well.

In the case of both intoxicants, I find water to be extremely significant and always end up swimming in a lake or pool for an extended time.

All I can wonder is... Why?


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: kokora]
    #18888632 - 09/25/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It sounds like you're speaking of synchronocities, but those experiences don't seem meaningful,they seem like hallucinations or delusions, but then again everything is a hallucination


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18888667 - 09/25/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

sync is crazy..

for example: this thread might be confirming that you are all a part of my imagination and this is all a trick..

now of course youd deny it..to throw me off more..

a troll thread if you will... (meant for me)

but then theyd just call me schizo for feeling like this...so id just accept i got disorders and continue living my life numb and surpressed..  but these ideas/"realizations" are ironically post-LSD trip so it could simply be used as an excuse for my thoughts...to get me to shrug it off and try it again...only it will make my mind more messed up but parts of me thinks doing acid again and having a good trip will cancel out the bad trip realizations but im to afraid to dabble again for those exact reasons..

im in a loop and its like the creator knew id trip in this life time or something and ive had many past ones and i failed each time but i begged for one last chance and thats why im conscious right now and i failed again...but i can only blame myself for my conscious decisions...

anyway..


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: Deathcore]
    #18888680 - 09/25/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

see my ex sent me some pics of her kids and out of 6 of the pics i clicked the 3rd one and its 666 KB...more synchronicity.

go ahead call it coincidence


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: Deathcore]
    #18888728 - 09/25/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

heres another example..

i called my account balance on my debit card and it said

"your available balance is (BEEP call waiting) and 83 cents"

IRONICALLY the beep happens right AFTER the "your available balance is" and NOT AFTER my balance...

i had to call back...

its just stupid shit like that that makes me cringe about "reality"


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: Deathcore]
    #18889123 - 09/25/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Synchronicity is about two separate events, not one creepy one.(depending on perspective of course)


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18889313 - 09/25/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wish I was struck by more synchronocities once in a while


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18889607 - 09/25/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

okay here it goes, my problem summed up in one sentence.

I cant prove you exist, just as you cant prove I exist.


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: Deathcore]
    #18889632 - 09/25/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What do coincidences mean? Do they mean that there's some higher power controlling what happens? I don't think so.. in fact, if coincidences NEVER happened, then it would be proof of a higher power controlling things, because it would be going out of it's way to prevent coincidences.

There's a virtually infinite number of things happening at any given moment. Meanwhile, our minds are thinking of a virtually infinite number of different things at any given moment. When we take notice and things seem to synch up, all it means is that we noticed it. There's really nothing else going on other than wishful thinking that coincidences actually have meaning. They really don't. All psychedelics do is let our brains notice things that we wouldn't ordinarily notice.


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: Universe]
    #18889896 - 09/25/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

666 tho?


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: Deathcore]
    #18891773 - 09/25/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Deathcore said:
666 tho?




Where's the coincidence? 6 pictures and the third one is 666kB - who cares?  I farted 14 times today and the 9th one was at 9:09 am on the dot. That's not a coincidence.

The only good thing about a coincidence is that you can realize it and say "wow". Coincidences are just a product of realization. If you're awake and alert, you'll noticed them all the time. If you're out of it, they never happen.


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: kokora] * 1
    #18892372 - 09/26/13 01:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I read a book recently titled Carl Gustav Jung's Psychology of Religion and Synchronicity which was very illuminating on the topic of meaningful coincidence.

Basically, as I understand it, the unconscious mind is the realm of the archetypes, and the archetype of the Self (or, Wholeness), exists in a kind of nonspatiotemporal way. It is, in fact, a kind of primary thing, whose pattern does not simply express itself in the human psyche, but in all of nature as a whole. In this way, dreams can forecast actual waking-life experiences, and thoughts can be accompanied by changes in weather or by the occurrence of physical experiences paralleling the current thoughts in some way (ie talking about a fox, and a fox appears on the path you're walking).

Perhaps what it is, is that psychedelics/entheogens weaken, and in fact sometimes break, the boundary between the conscious and unconscious mind, and so these synchronicities are more easily perceived, the archetypes patterns are more easily observable. The archetype of the Self becomes particularly more clear.

Maybe even, by attenuating yourself to certain archetypes, particularly the archetype of the Self, through the use of a psychedelic drug, your consciousness can act in resonance with other events in time, to bring about the occurrence of similar patterning. Therefore, not only increasing your ability to perceive synchronicities, but increasing their actual frequency of occurrence.





Sorry, took a big bong toke before this post lol. :jah:


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“You have to take seriously the notion that understanding the universe is your responsibility, because the only understanding of the universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding.”
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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: PsychonauticOne]
    #18893601 - 09/26/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it makes free will seem fake


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: Deathcore]
    #18893947 - 09/26/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I definitely get the malfunctioning electronics, it is a common theme throughout many trips (it's not always shared hallucinations, either).

One time I strummed the cover of my laptop like an electric guitar and it resounded through the wall speaker it was connected to.


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Meaningful Coincidence/Natural Phenomena [Re: flickedbic] * 1
    #18894310 - 09/26/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

see...so how? god fucks with us during our trips?


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