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OfflineBeeishot
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1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take?
    #18891909 - 09/25/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hello to all!

I'll just start off by saying I did check the forum before posting this, but my question is a bit more specific.

From what I've read, most people need about 2 to 3 grams for their first time. That said, I have a high tolerance for any drug (street or OTC). I'm a big guy.. I'm 6ft1 and about 265lbs.

Anyways...
I'm trying to see what I should limit myself to. What's too much for a first timer? I don't want to push it, but I do want a level 2 or 3 trip. Is 4 grams reasonable? I want to be safe and not OD here.. lol. And yes I have a good mindset and am not really too worried about a bad trip unless i hit level 5. I'll start with 2.5 probably but where should I stop before I get in to too high of a dose for a first timer?

Here's a pic of what we're taking (it's not all for me lol). No clue what strain or whatever these are.. but I'm sure you guys will. Hopefully this helps you answer.
Bigger picture: http://postimg.org/image/mgghhl3s1/full/


Thanks in advance!
And sorry if this is in the wrong place.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: Beeishot] * 1
    #18891956 - 09/25/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would say no more than an eighth (3.5 grams) to start with. Just get a feel for it, and an eighth will definitely let you know what the mushrooms are about.
You seem responsible and have a good mindset about it, and as long as you are in a good setting, I would start off with 3-3.5 grams.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: MrHill]
    #18892010 - 09/25/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would take it in two halves. 1.5, then another 1.5. See how you feel about it then next time, take it in one go. It can be a really full on experience (depending on the shrooms) and might be better for some to start this way.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: DustJuice]
    #18892132 - 09/26/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

2.5g don't redose. You'll have the rest of your life to take more


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: Black_Sunset]
    #18892360 - 09/26/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Please tell me you didn't actually mean overdose as in dying.

I'm going with black sunset, 2.5g and don't redose.  Wait a couple weeks and take it up a notch if you didn't get the experience you wanted.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18892464 - 09/26/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

DeeBee said:
Please tell me you didn't actually mean overdose as in dying.

I'm going with black sunset, 2.5g and don't redose.  Wait a couple weeks and take it up a notch if you didn't get the experience you wanted.




Lol no - More so taking way too much and having a horrible time. For example, I have 3 quarters so if I ate all that, I'd consider that a Shroom OD lol.

Alrighty, well it looks like i'll stick to my original plan and I'll post my experience next week.

Thanks boys!


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: Beeishot] * 1
    #18892492 - 09/26/13 02:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I did 3.5g my first time and every time so far after that and have enjoyed every time.

2.5 should be nice though if that's what your final decision is.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: Beeishot]
    #18892660 - 09/26/13 04:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you want to do it RIGHT you'll go for a dose that first puts you under 10mg psilocybin and then, after an hour and a half have passed, take the same amount again to go over. 2x 1.3 grams does that nicely, most of the time.

People recommending an eighth ounce for your first time out are a bit macho.

Almost all literature since the 60s recommends 10-20mg psilocybin.  1/8 oz of Cubensis mushrooms contains 21mg on average but it can be as much as 40.  A bit macho to start off with the maximum recommendation with risk of going way over, isnt it?

If you want a one dose wonder, 2 grams should always satisfy, ranging from "interesting" to "mindblowing".

According to The Great Mishroom Poll, over half of almost 5300 Shroomerites recommend 2 grams or less to a beginner.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: Asante]
    #18893140 - 09/26/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

None of you guys even asked what species! The image wont work for me so I can't tell what you have but an 1/8 of Cyanascens would be a lot different to an 1/8 or Cubensis.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: elborito]
    #18893750 - 09/26/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I ate a dime( roughly 1.8) and it wasn't enough, mild visual effects and music sounded funny.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #18893816 - 09/26/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He asked for the MAX; for a first timer: I would say 3 - 3.5g also.

Like Acapuchinu, however, that is the only dose I have ever taken:  maybe I'm biased.

Next time I'm going 4g+ :smile:


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: Beeishot] * 1
    #18893854 - 09/26/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm so shocked when people recommend 3-4g for someones first trip... don't go over 2g.
my boyfriend, who's 160 lbs, took 2g for his first trip with me and he was overwhelmed with how intense it was


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: cosmickitty]
    #18893991 - 09/26/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: flickedbic]
    #18894036 - 09/26/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

flickedbic said:
He asked for the MAX; for a first timer: I would say 3 - 3.5g also.

Like Acapuchinu, however, that is the only dose I have ever taken:  maybe I'm biased.

Next time I'm going 4g+ :smile:





I think we are on the same boat :p


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: acapuchinu]
    #18894083 - 09/26/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Four max


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: fungiamongi3] * 1
    #18894679 - 09/26/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

3-3.5 gm

But ... Don't suggest it

Read up, don't under estimate mushrooms... It's not like pot or booze

Set and setting

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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: HarryL]
    #18894988 - 09/26/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

3.5-5


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18895114 - 09/26/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Again this guy doesn't know the species, 3.5 - 5? what if they are P. subaeruginosa or another high alkaloid woodlover?


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: elborito] * 1
    #18895361 - 09/26/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't go over an eighth for sure.  4 grams is a VERY strong trip.  You may be a hardhead for most drugs, but this isn't like most drugs.  Take 2.5-3.5 and no more.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: searching]
    #18895498 - 09/26/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No one's even confirmed the shrooms yet. The link doesn't seem to be working.

I would recommend 2 grams (if cubensis) for your first trip, enjoy :smile:


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: Jimmy Sage]
    #18905835 - 09/29/13 04:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I just got back from doing them.

I did about 2 grams to start with and waited about an hour. It barely hit us. The only "high" I experienced was very very similar to Smoking  good weed, and I noticed some visual stuff more like the Stars were nicer and such. I did not experience anything "psychedelic" however. Visuals were not moving funny, having waves throughout them or anything. It was very normal feeling.

After that hour we decided to take more. I took another 1.5 grams and then another gram about half an hour later. So within the first 1.5 hours, I had ingested 4.5 grams and I'm sorry to say it did little to nothing. I must have had a bad batch? idk.

My buddy did them with me and he felt the same (and he's tripped hard on 3 grams before). We had two mild laughing trips (similar to weed) and felt "high" like having smoked weed or gotten tipsy without the blurriness, but that's about it.

I don't even consider this to be a real first time because I took 4.5 grams of Shrooms and I had a level 1 trip, lol. Nothing to do with my tolerance either - I think I just had non-potent shrooms. I'll have to try them again in a few months and make sure to get a "batch" with good reviews from friends. I'll probably just take 3 grams right away next time though.


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: Beeishot]
    #18906030 - 09/29/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Take 2.5-3.5 grams dried, cubes im assuming. Have fun :mushroom2:


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Re: 1st Timer - What's the MAX I should take? [Re: ShroomyBudz]
    #18907110 - 09/29/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You may have redosed too late.  If I'm redosing it's usually within 45 minutes.

I think you went in expecting too much.  I feel like you didn't enjoy it because you wanted to trip hard.  My first time was around 2g and just like you said it was level one but we all had a good time just playing mario party and stuff.

Next time just don't expect anything and take an eighth.


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