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In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose?
#18891762 - 09/25/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just read a Cracked article about misconceptions that kids movies promote and one of them points out that sometimes the bullies win, or perhaps often if they were that much more assertive and strong than you to begin with.
What do you guys think? Do bullies usually come out on top or do they finally get theirs?
Anyone willing to share real-life outcomes they've seen is highly encouraged to do so.
The super-rich, everyone-wants-to-be-him bully from my elementary school went to different schools after that. I finally looked him up online and Facebook stalked him once, a couple years into college. I stumbled onto his wall about 3 posts after he publicly admitted he has a severe drinking problem and after a few replies, decided to go home rather than stay at college.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: st1llnox]
#18891784 - 09/25/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like to believe that the universe balances out, but look at major corporations, cops, and some politicians. Im guessing a few of those guys were bullies and haven't changed
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: st1llnox]
#18891789 - 09/25/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Even if they go through their whole life getting away with bullying people and manipulating their way through things, the bully will always be losing in the end. Sometimes their victims will lose too.
That's just my like philosophical perspective of lightness unity and love though
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: st1llnox] 3
#18891798 - 09/25/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nobody "gets theirs", for better or worse. That is just wishful thinking. Karma and golden rules, all bullshit. What people get is a result of their own actions and decisions.
A spoiled rich prick acquiring a drinking problem is not any sort of karmic justice anymore than if he were struck dead by lightning. Perhaps whatever factors drove him to be a bully in school also motivated his drinking. Who knows, besides him?
Point being, bully/victim is never a clear-cut issue and attempting to pick the winners and losers is a little bit juvenile.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: st1llnox]
#18891799 - 09/25/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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st1llnox said: Just read a Cracked article about misconceptions that kids movies promote and one of them points out that sometimes the bullies win, or perhaps often if they were that much more assertive and strong than you to begin with.
What do you guys think? Do bullies usually come out on top or do they finally get theirs?
Anyone willing to share real-life outcomes they've seen is highly encouraged to do so.
The super-rich, everyone-wants-to-be-him bully from my elementary school went to different schools after that. I finally looked him up online and Facebook stalked him once, a couple years into college. I stumbled onto his wall about 3 posts after he publicly admitted he has a severe drinking problem and after a few replies, decided to go home rather than stay at college.
I remember discussing this in philosophy class
I think it was plato who said that the only reason to be "good" as a person is for your own benefit
Let me rephrase the answer; do you honestly think that the type of person who is so insecure about his or herself to the point they have to physically and verbally assert themselves to others constantly is happy? People who do fucked up things and get away with it typically will have larger probelms to deal with than the guilt of the kid that they just bullied. ie some underlying issues
Keep in mind this is Plato's idea in the republic. You may want to double check it is the right greek philospher and the right text. I didnt come up with this, i am just agreeing with it
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: st1llnox] 3
#18891818 - 09/25/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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st1llnox said: The super-rich, everyone-wants-to-be-him bully from my elementary school went to different schools after that. I finally looked him up online and Facebook stalked him once, a couple years into college. I stumbled onto his wall about 3 posts after he publicly admitted he has a severe drinking problem and after a few replies, decided to go home rather than stay at college.
Is this one of those weird, third person, confessions? You know, the SWIM kind.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: koods]
#18891822 - 09/25/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said:
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st1llnox said: The super-rich, everyone-wants-to-be-him bully from my elementary school went to different schools after that. I finally looked him up online and Facebook stalked him once, a couple years into college. I stumbled onto his wall about 3 posts after he publicly admitted he has a severe drinking problem and after a few replies, decided to go home rather than stay at college.
Is this one of those weird, third person, confessions? You know, the SWIM kind.
LOL damn I didn't think about that
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: koods] 2
#18891823 - 09/25/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah, the guy said a drinking problem, not a DXM problem.
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You have inferred the problem was drinking alcohol. Cough syrup is a liquid.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: koods]
#18891863 - 09/25/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Entirely possible. I didn't hear much about how the guy is a self-described genius who fails calculus classes, though. I'm thinking these two aren't the same.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: koods]
#18891902 - 09/25/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said:
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st1llnox said: The super-rich, everyone-wants-to-be-him bully from my elementary school went to different schools after that. I finally looked him up online and Facebook stalked him once, a couple years into college. I stumbled onto his wall about 3 posts after he publicly admitted he has a severe drinking problem and after a few replies, decided to go home rather than stay at college.
Is this one of those weird, third person, confessions? You know, the SWIM kind.
 
Also, the only true winner in the end is whoever bitches about their life the least. And if a bully is doing that then he's just a bitch.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: volcomstoner]
#18891913 - 09/25/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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volcomstoner said: Also, the only true winner in the end is whoever bitches about their life the least.
that's the worst possible way you could look at this specific situation
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: Sheekle]
#18891920 - 09/25/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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How so? I mean whoever is most satisfied with their life obviously has got something better going on.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: volcomstoner]
#18891932 - 09/25/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just because someone was "bullied" doesn't mean they can't have a satisfying life. Honestly if they care that much about what one douchebag thinks of them then they should man the fuck up anyway.
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Fuckspice said: I like to believe that the universe balances out, but look at major corporations, cops, and some politicians. Im guessing a few of those guys were bullies and haven't changed
Replace bullies with psychopaths, arguably similar traits. Many successful psychopath businessmen and etc.
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sVs said: Nobody "gets theirs", for better or worse. That is just wishful thinking. Karma and golden rules, all bullshit. What people get is a result of their own actions and decisions.
A spoiled rich prick acquiring a drinking problem is not any sort of karmic justice anymore than if he were struck dead by lightning. Perhaps whatever factors drove him to be a bully in school also motivated his drinking. Who knows, besides him?
Point being, bully/victim is never a clear-cut issue and attempting to pick the winners and losers is a little bit juvenile.
I believe in karma, just in a logical and non-hippie/religious kinda way. For example if you rip people off all the time, chances are someones going to rip you off or beat your ass etc.
Simply put, if you're consistently a "bad" person, you're more likely to have shit catch up with you.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#18891940 - 09/25/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with that but that's not karma at all, that's just life. No reason to give that credit to karma, it confuses people into not taking action when someone else wrongs them by just letting "karma" handle it. Fuck that, you handle it, that is their "karma"
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topdog82 said:
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st1llnox said: Just read a Cracked article about misconceptions that kids movies promote and one of them points out that sometimes the bullies win, or perhaps often if they were that much more assertive and strong than you to begin with.
What do you guys think? Do bullies usually come out on top or do they finally get theirs?
Anyone willing to share real-life outcomes they've seen is highly encouraged to do so.
The super-rich, everyone-wants-to-be-him bully from my elementary school went to different schools after that. I finally looked him up online and Facebook stalked him once, a couple years into college. I stumbled onto his wall about 3 posts after he publicly admitted he has a severe drinking problem and after a few replies, decided to go home rather than stay at college.
I remember discussing this in philosophy class
I think it was plato who said that the only reason to be "good" as a person is for your own benefit
Let me rephrase the answer; do you honestly think that the type of person who is so insecure about his or herself to the point they have to physically and verbally assert themselves to others constantly is happy? People who do fucked up things and get away with it typically will have larger probelms to deal with than the guilt of the kid that they just bullied. ie some underlying issues
Keep in mind this is Plato's idea in the republic. You may want to double check it is the right greek philospher and the right text. I didnt come up with this, i am just agreeing with it
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sVs said: Entirely possible. I didn't hear much about how the guy is a self-described genius who fails calculus classes, though. I'm thinking these two aren't the same. 
I know you're not talking about me as I've aced both Calculus courses I've taken.
I failed an easy statistics class by not going to the final (still only got it down to a D tho).
Be less of a jackass and more of a cynic.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: st1llnox]
#18893772 - 09/26/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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im a big believer in karma when it comes to bullying. everybody has to experience both sides of the coin...
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: g00ru]
#18893784 - 09/26/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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g00ru said: im a big believer in karma when it comes to bullying. everybody has to experience both sides of the coin...
I think when we get to hell, we'll see sVs in a room where no matter what he types, nobody takes it seriously and people gang up on him 
It's IDIOTIC (cough cough cobraavvyman) to think Karma doesn't at least describe a natural tendency, even if it's not a universal causal mechanism.
Who's going to end up having people treat them nicer, do them more favors, help them when they're in need, etc.:
- a total douchebag who makes fun of people
-a compassionate and caring person who is nice to everyone
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Easy question.
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Re: In real life, does the bully tend to win or lose? [Re: st1llnox]
#18893822 - 09/26/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Variables.
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