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OfflineMurex
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Old-school game making
    #1889170 - 09/06/03 08:41 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I was wondering if anyone knows how old-school games (like NES games) were made. Is there a program they used to make them with or what?

I would also like to make my own game 'classic style' some day if it's not too hard. I know people can hack into roms and change the games, but can they also strat one from scratch?

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Re: Old-school game making [Re: Murex]
    #1889339 - 09/06/03 09:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I think they made them in C like most games are made now. Back then they didn't have the power to made 3D games like they do now. My friend is going to a college devoted to making video games. Lucky Bastard.


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: Murex]
    #1890579 - 09/07/03 11:17 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not sure, but there was certainly a Nintendo-supplied Software Development Kit involved.. by now it probably would be public domain or very pirated I would think.

I didn't read much of this page http://tnse.zophar.net/NESten.htm but I think it should be helpful, but you will not make a lot of games without reading a shitload of documentation.

http://nesdev.icequake.net/
http://home.earthlink.net/~joker21/NESprgmn.txt

It does not look pretty. 6502 assembly? Keep your hands off it :tongue:

http://oldnes.sourceforge.net/learn.html too


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: PjS]
    #1890649 - 09/07/03 12:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

thanks!


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: Murex]
    #1892749 - 09/08/03 02:29 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Screw that, Download the XDK and come develop for THE console, Xbox...

Youll NEED to use C++/DirectX8.1


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: Murex]
    #1892765 - 09/08/03 02:33 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Have you checked out rpg maker 2003? Its also called rm2k or rm2k3. It makes it super easy to make your own rpgs in the style of final fantasy 6 (U.S. 3) or chrono trigger. Speaking of chrono trigger, I dig the screenshot gpwebber. I was beginning to wonder if i was the only chrono trigger nerd in these forums. Back to the rm2k stuff... theres no coding envolved, everything including graphics, sprites and music are FULLY customizable. Theres TONS of sites with premade sprites of celebs, old videogame characters and anything else you can think of, and after you have made a game, you can compile it into a self installing disk, ready for distribution.


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: gir]
    #1895818 - 09/08/03 10:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, but the thing about using those kind of tools, is its lame..

Sure, you can point and click, but you still cant code.

but thats just my opinion, im sure some just want a new game and dont want to be an elite programmer


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1896226 - 09/09/03 12:17 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

If you're into text adventures, see TADS. Requires some coding work but it's pretty simple for people who don't want to program a parser (looks like a bitch and a half to me) themselves.. and many other toolkits are around that do similiar things, TADS just looks the best to me.


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: gir]
    #1903404 - 09/11/03 12:20 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

YEAH! CHRONO TRIGGER! BOOOONNNNGGGG!!! Chrono Trigger is the best game in the world in my opinion!


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: shroomidel]
    #1904127 - 09/11/03 05:18 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

learn Java! easier than C and jsut as powerfull. The overhead wont matter when making old school games.


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #1904188 - 09/11/03 05:36 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Most programmers start with BASIC, which is utterly terrible as a "real" language, since it's not a procedural language. Often this leads to Pascal, followed by a real language, C then C++.

Unfortunately, if you were taking college courses, you might be detoured into Java, which isn't bad, but it's also not terribly useful outside of the web world. It's cool enough in it's own right, but the term 'acedemic' applies to it in many ways.

Java has its good sides, like portability ...but it's not a practical language for the real world. it's a spiffy little language, and certainly had a lot of promise, but it hasn't been fulfilled

Java apps are far more laggy than C++ (which has seen optimizations in speed an order of magnitude over Java in the same period of time).

How many apps on your PC run on Java? On my own system, I can count MAYBE 3. The vast majority are written using C/C++, followed by VB. How much of Linux is written in Java? Not a single line of the Kernel or drivers. How many VCRs, PDAs, Console Games, Engine controllers, industrial controls, letter sorters, hand scanners, ...and so on... are written using Java?

It never lived up to the promise of many pundits. It couldn't deliver the efficency required in the packages that were affordable. Java processors? I don't even think I've ever seen one spec'd for automotive usage, let alone industrial NEMA classifications.

Now, as a language to play with... Java is fine, but even Pascal (and it's close brethren Modula and Delphi) is used in more "real" systems and apps than Java. Java programming will not impress a single person on a resume, if they know software engineering, at least. It might have been a good tickmark 5 years ago, but time and practicality has passed it by.

Yes, cell phones have grabbed onto the Java train, but what do you think the OS in that phone is built with? As they become more complex, with color and full blown systems like the Windows CE variant used in many, C/C++ is still the language of choice.

C/C++ is definitely the most widely used, and most versatile language. it will remain to be the most used for professional applications

Anyway, back on topic. Id go with C/C++ because there are a LOT of game specific references (gamedev.net) as a prime example... youll definately be wanting to get into DirectX (unless you arent developing for windows..)

If you actually WANTED to develop for NES, theres probably resources around to help you, maybe an SDK/compiler...

And if you are -seriously- interested, you could work on a project with me (upcoming)....developing some game for Xbox (underground)... itll be a good experience, and could be ported to PC easily.


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1904528 - 09/11/03 09:43 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I agree. Though if you know Java you have a pretty good grasp of C++.


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #1906554 - 09/11/03 06:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Old-school game making [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1906899 - 09/11/03 08:41 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks a lot SHiZNO. :thumbup:


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Re: Old-school game making [Re: Murex]
    #1914915 - 09/14/03 10:14 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Shizmo pretty much summed it up.If you've never programmed a line of code in your life, I'd start with Visual Basic. Then move on to C/C+. Theres tons of downloadable material to learn from.


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