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Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike?
#18891215 - 09/25/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Habitat: Found growing in wide bladed grass right by the side of landscaping pebbles tiny barrier. Most likely clay rich substrate since I found them in north Georgia.
Other information: No notable scent, pictures should explain the physical features. They are around 2+ inches tall.





I haven't yet been able to gather some of the extra information like bruising and print, but if anybody has any important questions that will help me identify please request. I figured the images say a lot more than any description I could come to myself.
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
#18891264 - 09/25/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are the Stalks yellow? I'm thinking this might Be A.parcivolvata. If stalk is not yellow then yes propbly on of the A. muscaria group probly var. flavivolvata. beings that this in Georgia. The other thought Is A flavorubescens
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
#18891276 - 09/25/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks like Amanita muscaria var. persicina to me.
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#18891283 - 09/25/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some of the other Shroomerites around here live in N. GA and have been finding them. Did you find them near some loblolly pines?
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#18891294 - 09/25/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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BittrBuffalo said: Some of the other Shroomerites around here live in N. GA and have been finding them. Did you find them near some loblolly pines?
Interestingly enough loblolly pines where growing about 10 feet from where I found them.
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
#18891356 - 09/25/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would there be any danger in eating two caps after drying and heating in water or making tea? I'm not looking for euphoria or a high in particular, more of a spiritual experience related to my area.
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
#18891362 - 09/25/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#18891412 - 09/25/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome, to test them to make sure they aren't parcivolvata would it work to put a thumb tip piece in my mouth for a while before swallowing and then check for slight effects?
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#18891431 - 09/25/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The only problem is the yellow stipes and what looks like really yellow gills. I thought A Mascara group had white gills and white stipes. ME Does not list a yellow stipe nor yellow gills but a white stipe and white to pinkish gills. Just saying. Although they are near Loblolly Pine, Here a REF http://www.mushroomexpert.com/amanita_muscaria_persicina.html
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Eddeee]
#18891451 - 09/25/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm, well I certainly know the gills are white and upon checking just now if I slide a nail down the stem a pure white is revealed. What does concern me a little is that the warts slide easily, but when harvested they were very moist.
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
#18891540 - 09/25/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lined margin, lack of annulus and yellow stipe point to Amanita parcvivolvata
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: o8u]
#18891588 - 09/25/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That is what Im thinking A parcvivolvata as I mentioned before. no anulus as well so hmmmmmm
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Eddeee]
#18891609 - 09/25/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Than you guys, is there anyway I could do a mild test of this?
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
#18891640 - 09/25/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, try a Meixner test to see if you can detect any deadly amatoxins.
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: o8u]
#18891717 - 09/25/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd love to try that if I had the equipment, would eating the cap skin of one and then observing work?
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed] 1
#18891747 - 09/25/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hydrochloric acid is sold as muriatic acid at many hardware stores, so the equipment is not hard to get.
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: thiotimoline]
#18891774 - 09/25/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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All the standard A muscaria I've seen has a unique shaggy fringed stipe. Though I'm too much of a pussy to ingest any...or eat edible Amanitas like jacksonii.
Man I think I'm dying with psilos sometimes. I can't imagine wondering "am I actually dying for real?" during a hard trip. Yikes
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18891793 - 09/25/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oeric McKenna said: All the standard A muscaria I've seen has a unique shaggy fringed stipe. Though I'm too much of a pussy to ingest any...or eat edible Amanitas like jacksonii.
Man I think I'm dying with psilos sometimes. I can't imagine wondering "am I actually dying for real?" during a hard trip. Yikes
Lol, with my spiritual grounds I wouldn't be bothered even if I were. But I think I'm going to have to assume that eating just one skin from one cap should be relatively safe even with similar look alikes. I know not a lot is known about Parcivolvata but it seems if it were dangerous enough reports would have already been made about it's accidental ingestion.
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: Masxed]
#18891800 - 09/25/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I doubt they are deadly, but it is a real risk when dealing with Amanitas of unknown edibility. If you do consume dangerous amatoxins, it will take up to a couple of deliriously painful weeks for your liver and and kidney to fail and kill you. If you take a sublethal dosage, you could still wind up doing permanent, painful, and irreversible damage to your internal organs. I'd recommend you don't eat them, but if you do, please keep a journal so others can learn from your experience.
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Re: Precious Amanita Muscaria or possible look alike? [Re: o8u]
#18891837 - 09/25/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dead balls accurate advice right here^ Knowledgeable dude.
Hey op. spiritual grounds: did you meet mother aya by chance?
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