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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18890830 - 09/25/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah sometimes they do that. Sometimes you won't have it fully colonized over the substrate. Chances are you opening the lid might be enough to start pins up. Still when I had the same problem I left it until there was only a small amount left uncolonized (which was a piece of loose poo chillin on top). So what's to lose by letting it chill? You have a more colonized substrate and if you initiated pinning you throw on poly fill when you see the first pin. Patience is key. As I'm sure you know.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: nepter627]
    #18890847 - 09/25/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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just fruit it.

it will continue colonizing while its fruiting i believe



No... contaminants will colonize it... we don't expose it for the purpose of not wanting any contaminants there in the first place. Ideally you fruit at 100% so there's no contamination but don't just fruit it because you're impatient. Fruit when it's not doing anything. I'll be willing to bet it's colonizing more and more every day. You're basically guaranteed fruits but why not try to get as many as possible? A few days won't hurt.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: Mad Season]
    #18891049 - 09/25/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah sometimes they do that. Sometimes you won't have it fully colonized over the substrate. Chances are you opening the lid might be enough to start pins up. Still when I had the same problem I left it until there was only a small amount left uncolonized (which was a piece of loose poo chillin on top). So what's to lose by letting it chill? You have a more colonized substrate and if you initiated pinning you throw on poly fill when you see the first pin. Patience is key. As I'm sure you know.



oh yeah, patience is something you can't seem to have enough of in this hobby. I'm trying really hard not to get ahead of myself from excitement, but this is my first bulk grow and it's been months since I've seen any shrooms, so I am dying to fruit this thing :awesome:

I'll let it chill if you think contamination is still a serious concern (there's still quite a bit of visible coir so I don't doubt it). I guess I'm just wondering whether anything will ever happen if I don't make a move. assuming it doesn't succumb to contamination, will it definitely start to pin eventually? or could I be sitting here forever waiting when in reality it would pin immediately if put into fruiting conditions?

sorry for the barrage of questions, I've just got this combination of excitement that I'm so close and frustration that it's not quite getting there


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18891079 - 09/25/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

OP, you said you used " bucket pasteurization"
Sorry, but that is not a real thing.  Maybe even an oxymoron.
Fruit it, see what happens.  Next time do it right.  Good luck.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18891085 - 09/25/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

It will eventually pin. If it pins without it fully colonizing you can bet it's contamination. Still you'll get mushrooms regardless. I'd just put it into isolation. Also on a side note. If things go well you should be putting it into fruiting before pins come. Still it'll pin regardless of what you do or don't do.

Even if it is contaminated. Never underestimate mycelium. I've seen mycelium take over bacteria more times than I can count.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: Mad Season]
    #18891145 - 09/25/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Now listen folks
I've got to tell you now
I've been seeing the trich
And I don't know how
Bucket tek
Oven tek
It's all so easy
WOW
If you pasteurize in jars
You'll have enough mushies to see stars
Outdated information
Will lead to contam invasion
Just be bright
And do it right
Start today
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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: Mad Season]
    #18891174 - 09/25/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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OP, you said you used " bucket pasteurization"
Sorry, but that is not a real thing.  Maybe even an oxymoron.
Fruit it, see what happens.  Next time do it right.  Good luck.



I originally put pasteurization in quotes because I realize it's not technically pasteurization but it's serving a similar purpose and I am not really a fan of the word "tek." I assumed everybody would know what I was talking about since it's so commonly discussed here.

I plan to do proper pasteurization next time as per Frank's thread, but I was short on jars at the time and don't have autoclavable bags. I decided to go with a technique that seems to work for many people and told myself that I will be prepared next time. I apologize if I am looking into your post too much but I feel like it was kind of degrading towards me over some semantics and making a mistake that lots of noobs make. I'm the first one to admit I don't really know what I'm doing. if I thought otherwise, I wouldn't be in this thread asking for help. sorry to go on a rant but I just want to be clear that I am doing my best and not trying to take any shortcuts. I want to learn and succeed as much as anyone else, but I'm going to make some mistakes along the way :thumbup:

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It will eventually pin. If it pins without it fully colonizing you can bet it's contamination. Still you'll get mushrooms regardless. I'd just put it into isolation. Also on a side note. If things go well you should be putting it into fruiting before pins come. Still it'll pin regardless of what you do or don't do.

Even if it is contaminated. Never underestimate mycelium. I've seen mycelium take over bacteria more times than I can count.



thanks for the encouraging words man! I think I will wait until the 30th. if I notice no growth or pins at all, then I'll probably just fruit it, but if I see even minor improvements in colonization then I'll just let it keep going. can't get any good pictures of it, but I do have a few spots that look like they could be pinning, so I'm sure I'll find out soon what's going on.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18891186 - 09/25/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Don't take it personal man.  I sincerely wish you the best of luck.  I'm short on jars atm too, because I have too much myc growing.  I'll buy more jars tomorrow


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: azur]
    #18891196 - 09/25/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

sorry man, I'm just really irritable lately because my dog's having some medical issues and they seem to be getting worse rather than better. already dropped like a thousand bones in the last 8 days and I don't exactly have a ton of spare money laying around. no offense taken :thumbup:


edit: and of course I'm a little nervous about whether this grow is going to succeed!


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18891284 - 09/25/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I feel ya man. I dropped a lot of dough to save a dog years ago.  Sucks.  Hope he gets better.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: azur]
    #18897581 - 09/27/13 07:05 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I see a mushroom :biggrin:

guess that means it's probably not going to colonize 100%, so there may be a contam problem in the end or something, but at least I know for sure now what to do with this!


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18897610 - 09/27/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Fruit it.

it looks like P. Cubensis of course.

Looks like you kept the conditions right.

So after 11 days of colonization I'd fruit.  It was probably at 100% by then.

If your sub is tuned in you have no need to wait for consolidation unless you are using some straw in the mix and want to have an amazing first flush.  Even then you only need a few more hours after 100% colonization.  It will be (about) another 11 days before you harvest fruit after everything is said and done and the sub will still keep pulling nutrients and moisture to the mushrooms over this time.

Keep the environs right and keep going.

Deeper subs may take more than 11 days to fully colonize.  Looks like you are doing everything right!

It can take longer than 11 days if you are at the wrong temp for colonization or moisture is off or working with low spawn rates.  But you seem to be all good!


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: mastercultivator]
    #18897832 - 09/27/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)



there's actually quite a few of these!

I am going to fruit it right now. I don't have a fan but I'll pick one up later today. already moved it to a closet with a 6500k lamp, so now I just need to add some polyfill.

should I mist the walls a bit as well?


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18897975 - 09/27/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

That spot just north of the big mushy looks suspect. See how bright white it is?  Hard to say looking at picks.  Just be sure to provide a lot of fresh air.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: azur]
    #18898008 - 09/27/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

interesting, do you suggest just keeping an eye on it to see if it gets bigger? the tub smells great, but I'm guessing a contam would have to spread a decent amount before it would smell strong enough to override the fresh mushroom smell.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18898075 - 09/27/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not saying anything as it's difficult to tell things in photos.  I just know that trich is bright white before it sporulates. 
Just keep doing what you're doing.  Good job so far.  Did you buy jars yet?


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: azur]
    #18898146 - 09/27/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

thanks man. I have a decent # of jars stockpiled now, actually the biggest problem is finding a spot to keep them all in my tiny apartment lol

I've got 10 pints that I inoculated from an MS syringe about a week ago, so I am looking to see some colonization any day now. already getting excited to implement some of the things I want to do differently with the next tub.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18898221 - 09/27/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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there's actually quite a few of these!

I am going to fruit it right now. I don't have a fan but I'll pick one up later today. already moved it to a closet with a 6500k lamp, so now I just need to add some polyfill.

should I mist the walls a bit as well?




I think it looks great :thumbup:

Run a small fan on low in the closet to start, then adjust your polyfill til you have good conditions.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18898349 - 09/27/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

ahhhh man... I'm so excited! :trippinbawelz:

I'm going to go purchase a fan right now. I'll update with pics if there are any interesting developments.


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Re: is this tub colonized enough for fruiting? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18898885 - 09/27/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

On a side note. I always thought consolidation was waiting until the mycelium turns bright white and healthy looking, it can be fully colonized but still have that brown I'm still growing tinge. Nice looking pins. Get a fan going. MAKE SURE IT'S. POINTING AWAY FROM THE TUB. Contrary to popular belief I found that stuffing the bottom holes as tight as possible was detrimental. Still make sure the bottom holes are tighter packed than the top holes. The top holes should be very lightly packed.

You need to maintain a high amount of fresh air but not so much that you lose humidity. The humidity the tubs at right now is actually ideal. You just need fresh air.


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