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dakster72
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Syrian Rue seeds and mushroom questions?
#18889899 - 09/25/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have been looking all over the shroomery, Erowid, and many other sites but can not find good information on Syrian Rue Seeds. I got a 1/4 oz of seeds today, and I was hoping to use them to potentiate my next mushroom trip (this weekend some time). Due to current circumstances, I am not able to preform an extraction. Now, onto my questions. 1. Can the syrian rue seeds be eaten whole (without an extraction)? 2. What is a good first time dose to potentiate a mushroom trip? 3. If I want to try Rue seeds alone before i use them as a potentiator, what would be a good dose to try that with? 4. I read some forums about rue seeds being poisonous before an extraction is done..? Just wondering if this is true or not. 5. Will I still get effects from just eating the seeds whole? 6. I have some gel caps around here somewhere, would it be better to cap the seeds or just eat them whole (these are my only options as of now) 7. If I am just eating the seeds whole (if this is not dangerous), do they need to be finely ground? I am not sure as to how I can grind them, so it would be nice to not have to. But I could probably crush them up mildly if this is necessary. 8. I have tried a couple MAOI's before to potentiate trips (including Passion Flower and a few other herbs) with a moderately significant increase in potency, but nothing huge. is there a major difference between rue seeds and other MAOI's? Sorry about the massive number of questions, I just have been unable to find any good information on these seeds and I am very anxious to try them. Any answers/advice I may receive are greatly appreciated, and thank you in advance for them.
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Re: Syrian Rue seeds and mushroom questions? [Re: dakster72]
#18890096 - 09/25/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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1. You would probably at least chew them, and the seed would probably cause nausea to the max. Plus they're extra hard and would get caught in your teeth.
2. I've never taken less than 2 grams, timing is everything. With a mushroom trip I would dose at the same time or within 10-20 mins.
3. 3 grams alone is fun, but I would start at 2 to feel the effects.
4. I don't think so. If they were the toxins would come out in a boil, but like I've said the seed coat will probably cause heaps of nausea.
5. Syrian Rue seeds are tough. I wouldn't be surprised if your digestion tract couldn't break them down.
6. #5.
7. Grind them if you can, or mortar and pestle.
8. Passion flower from what I've heard is a weak RIMA. While things like P.harmala and B.caapi are much more potent. Have you ever used B.caapi or anything equivalent in alkaloid profile? Don't take them lightly if not, it can get overwhelming. Even just by themselves.
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Edited by K1ngSp4de (09/25/13 04:36 PM)
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dakster72
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Re: Syrian Rue seeds and mushroom questions? [Re: K1ngSp4de]
#18890163 - 09/25/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the response! I'll keep that in mind. Like I said, I could probably crush them up at least a little bit, but would that make a big difference? If not I can just chew them a bit and swallow them. Do you think the nausea will really be that terrible? And if so, how long can I expect it to last? And I have tried Ayahuasca with Mescaline once, and tried B. Caapi with DMT twice. Both times it was a relatively small dose of the potentiators and didn't really seem to make much of a difference. Thanks again!
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Re: Syrian Rue seeds and mushroom questions? [Re: dakster72]
#18890508 - 09/25/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would powder 3 gm and drink them down with a little lemonade or tea
You can eat whole seeds but easier if you grind them
Would not eat over 5 gm... Being lots of people eat them, at that dosage less than 5 gm, they are not poisonous
Don't expect to feel much eating them alone less than 4-5 gm
Passion flower plant is a weak MAOI as is black current
B caapi is stronger than Passion flower and very bitter as a tea
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Re: Syrian Rue seeds and mushroom questions? [Re: HarryL]
#18891054 - 09/25/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would definitely try your best to grind them up as much as you can. i wouldn't count on chewing them they are very hard and taste horrible. like a horrible tasting dirt. my only experience with them was quite a while ago me and a friend each took 2gs ground up syrian rue and then soaked 1g mush in lime juice for 20-30 minutes after we ate the rue and then downed the lime juice. within 15 minutes we were definitely feeling the effects and 30 minutes later things were definitely starting to move. it was a very quick come up. and it ended up being the hardest I'd tripped up to that point. it felt like a solid 3 maybe even 3.5g equivalent. there were a few times where we just kinda stopped and were like holy shit we only had 1 gram of mushrooms.
definitely had fun but not something to do every trip. when it came time to fall asleep my eyes were real tired but my mind was still going places and i had some CEV still going on.
hope this helps
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