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Invisibletribesman
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Deities in the making
    #18888265 - 09/25/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Surely once evolution reaches an indeterminate point;
we, or whatever form humanity has evolved into will more closely
resemble divine beings. If you agree that progression is the name
of the game, then wouldn't increased longevity, resistance to injury,
disease, and even more formidable mental powers be a possibility?

It's only a matter if time.



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That flows to fit whatever form it finds:
Through night or day, cathedral or the cave
We pass forever, craving form that binds."

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Re: Deities in the making [Re: tribesman] * 1
    #18888273 - 09/25/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Doesn't look that way from here.


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: Icelander]
    #18888298 - 09/25/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Care to share your perspective?


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: tribesman]
    #18888311 - 09/25/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's already in the making through extreme divide in money.


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18888351 - 09/25/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
It's already in the making through extreme divide in money.





nice pitch, buddy.

cant be truer than that.


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: tribesman]
    #18888486 - 09/25/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

tribesman said:
Surely once evolution reaches an indeterminate point;
we, or whatever form humanity has evolved into will more closely
resemble divine beings. If you agree that progression is the name
of the game, then wouldn't increased longevity, resistance to injury,
disease, and even more formidable mental powers be a possibility?

It's only a matter if time.




Hard to say but progress seems to be in more of a Time Machine flavor than Guardians of Asgard. I of course am evolving into a Morlock.

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Re: Deities in the making [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18888522 - 09/25/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
It's already in the making through extreme divide in money.




Indeed, money (and fame) as a cultural mode of death denial, a culturally relevant from of illusory transcendence.


It really seems to be not all that different than the games I see my little cousins play, other than the fact that millions of people are playing it. :shrug:


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: tribesman] * 2
    #18888782 - 09/25/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

tribesman said:
Surely once evolution reaches an indeterminate point;
we, or whatever form humanity has evolved into will more closely
resemble divine beings. If you agree that progression is the name
of the game, then wouldn't increased longevity, resistance to injury,
disease, and even more formidable mental powers be a possibility?

It's only a matter if time.







Yay! Another member who completely misunderstands evolution. :cheer:


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18888946 - 09/25/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well, it could be true in a way.

We are highly adapted towards tool use, which means technology, engineering, and innovation. Through science, we can increase our lifespan and control over our environment to the point that we may resemble what an earlier iteration of ourselves may have considered "divine." There's also something to be said for the exponential gain of human knowledge thanks to technology like the internet -- we make knowledge faster and easier to share, which in turn increases our ability to develop ways of sharing knowledge.

In other words, as we get smarter, we increase our ability to make ourselves smarter. But are we becoming wiser? :shrug:


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: Rahz]
    #18889205 - 09/25/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So a split is already occurring? How long before physiology starts to
Display distinct variations between the glitterati and the plebs?


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18889222 - 09/25/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

tribesman said:
Surely once evolution reaches an indeterminate point;
we, or whatever form humanity has evolved into will more closely
resemble divine beings. If you agree that progression is the name
of the game, then wouldn't increased longevity, resistance to injury,
disease, and even more formidable mental powers be a possibility?

It's only a matter if time.







Yay! Another member who completely misunderstands evolution. :cheer:




Not completely.

I was including transhumanist / posthumanist efforts. I know evolution is too random and
Does not necessarily move in a linear progression. The thread was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek. Obviously I'm still learning the science bunkum, so I will get it wrong
Along the way.


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: tribesman] * 1
    #18889252 - 09/25/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OK, I will cut you some slack. The great misunderstanding by the ill-informed is that there is some sort of goal or end-game of evolution that we are heading towards. Evolution is backward-looking descriptor of what has already happened.

The entire 'goal' is the passing on of offspring and future survival; not the development of super powers or mega intelligence. Ants and sharks have barely changed in a hundred million years because they have ALREADY ADAPTED very well to their environments.


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18889277 - 09/25/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There nothing to say that a severe change to habitat could pose Ants a survival challenge for which they are not adapted. Hence the potential for any progress to be wiped.

Then what about these transhumanists?


Edited by tribesman (09/25/13 01:27 PM)


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: tribesman]
    #18889639 - 09/25/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

tribesman said:
So a split is already occurring? How long before physiology starts to
Display distinct variations between the glitterati and the plebs?




It was tongue in cheek. Wells scenario might be possible but it seems like a certain level of segregation would be necessary, and even then it would take eons of unsuccessful rebellions. Not probable IMO, but technology complicates things.


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: Rahz]
    #18892732 - 09/26/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Technology can act as a shield protecting us from circumstances that
We are not evolved to survive, though there is a possibility that our technology
Could contribute to a stagnation in our evolution.


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: tribesman]
    #18892793 - 09/26/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

man + technology = much androidery

we could evolve organically or that said path...


i dunno, 100years of continuous human relationship with organic psychedelics could very well take us somewhere... what more for a thousand years..

???
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Re: Deities in the making [Re: tribesman]
    #18892810 - 09/26/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

When our technology becomes self aware a huge evolutionary leap will have occurred. A new life form will have been created. Once computers start thinking for themselves information will be processed so fast that a human computer hybrid will be inevitable :assimilate:. At this point we have an entirely new human. This can and should take many forms. I say our technology (which probably was borrowed) because i think aliens already have this relationship with there ships and technology, just a hunch.

Quickly I think it will resemble deity'ness in terms of its understanding and how it relates to us as it approaches singularity. Right now its unconscious getting set to wake up and once it does it will instantly have an overwhelming understanding of us.


That is one inevitability but eat a mushroom for now:mushroom2:


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18892818 - 09/26/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh and then there is genetic manipulation of clones.


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: Beside the Garden] * 1
    #18892916 - 09/26/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Beside the Garden said:
When our technology becomes self aware a huge evolutionary leap will have occurred. A new life form will have been created. Once computers start thinking for themselves information will be processed so fast that a human computer hybrid will be inevitable :assimilate:. At this point we have an entirely new human. This can and should take many forms. I say our technology (which probably was borrowed) because i think aliens already have this relationship with there ships and technology, just a hunch.

Quickly I think it will resemble deity'ness in terms of its understanding and how it relates to us as it approaches singularity. Right now its unconscious getting set to wake up and once it does it will instantly have an overwhelming understanding of us.


That is one inevitability but eat a mushroom for now:mushroom2:





You mean "if" and that's hardly an inevitability.  It gets really old this proclaiming of possible future events as a reality.


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Re: Deities in the making [Re: Icelander]
    #18892972 - 09/26/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I love your voice of reason and show me the evidence attitude keeps this place honest:heart:

There always "if" im not trying to be prophetic or any thing but people are working on it right now, its going to happen unless something catastrophic gets in the way. What form the future takes I don't know, i have ideas but AI and cybernetic organisms are on the way.


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