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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: omegafaust]
    #18889057 - 09/25/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If its possible run your vines over with a pushmower.  the smaller the pieces the faster they compost.  it is possible to achieve a fully composted pile in 14 days with this method.




Yes, i will throw them into the yard and fun them over a few times. This is too cool.  I thought it was more of a year long process and that's why i just kind of threw thing's into the bin. :lol:  I'm fixing to stir my cauldron and add a bit of this and that! Sounds like more fun that i was making it out to be. :dancer:

Is it possible to take my field clipping's that are pushed out of the way to dry, and mix in w/ my green fresh clipping's to get keep a big mix right? I do understand i can't just mow and put fresh clipping's in the bin every time by themselves.

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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: cynical bastad]
    #18889094 - 09/25/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Adding to your pile will slow down its process. 

dried grass still retains nitrogen, but yes it can be dried and added to fresh cut grass ro achieve a larfe pile.

however decomposition will be slow and the nitrogen will be used up quickly.

remember, the more stuff you put in, the better the compost.  don't just use grass :wink:


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: omegafaust]
    #18889121 - 09/25/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm mainly looking to compost my spent substrate in the process but what to add is what I would like to know or what i can add and it still be good.  Obviously extra yard wastes would be readily available.  But what else?  I'm also not under no time limit.  I don't immediately need it but want to start making it and recycling my spent substrate rather than trashing it.


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18889137 - 09/25/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: omegafaust]
    #18889482 - 09/25/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Composting old mushroom subs makes some of the best crumbly forest floor compost around. I save 10 or more oyster straw logs that have already had 2-3 flushes to use as a base for my compost. Once I have a few spent subs ready to roll I start to layer my fresh pile with food scraps. Raw coffee grounds, fruit peels, veggie scraps, culled garden plants, farm animal manure if accessible, and shredded yard trimmings.

Large layer (4-6'') of dry material or old substrate which is the carbon, followed by a smaller layer (1-2'') of raw food scraps or manure (Nitrogen). I continue with this process until my pile is no less than 4x4x4'. You need to keep the pile moist after you've built a sizable amount, and turn the pile starting from the top to the bottom 1-2 times a week. You should notice a good amount of heat coming from the center of the pile when you turn it, if not your mix is wrong. I turn mine with a pitch fork and after about two piles, I'm spent.

I usually have nice compost after about 3 months, but know of a friend who makes his a lot more intensively that has crumbly compost after 28 days. There are a lot of different factors, like how often you turn the pile, size of the particles, moisture, C:N ratio, all of which determine the speed and nutrient profile of your compost. If you have too much N in the mix it will start to smell sour, so add some C.

I've just started to get the hang of composting and my last few batches have been killer. It took me about a year before I could make a good compost though. Just gotta practice.


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: SpeakSoftly]
    #18889509 - 09/25/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly,  i love the idea if using logs as your carbon base.  Genius!!

Everythung takes practice, but it isn't hard.


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: omegafaust]
    #18890756 - 09/25/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you want to get super heady with it, I'm going to be using my spent sub plus a dumptruck load of woodchips with about 500ft of 3/4" PEX in it, as a composting hot water heater.  The hot water will feed radiators in my grow rooms.


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: drake89]
    #18891099 - 09/25/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That is cool as hell man!


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: SpeakSoftly]
    #18892743 - 09/26/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That sounds great Drake, take the heating bill right out of the equation.


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: SpeakSoftly]
    #18893105 - 09/26/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So spent substrate and wood chips will create compost?


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18893110 - 09/26/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

that is a really nice idea!
if you have info to share on how you are gonna set it up, i'm very interested.


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: forrest]
    #18893144 - 09/26/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm curious if it will compost as well.  wood takes a lot of nitrogen to decompose, and spent substrates will need nitrogen as well.  what is your nitrogen source going to be?


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: omegafaust]
    #18893386 - 09/26/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I got the idea from this homesteading book

It's called a jean pain mound, look it up there's some good videos on youtube with hot tubs and greenhouse heaters.

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that is a really nice idea!
if you have info to share on how you are gonna set it up, i'm very interested.




Most people use lots of PEX (plastic pipe) in a coil inside the pile, like 400-1000ft.  I've been looking at metal plate heat exchangers, like plate chillers used craft brewing.  I don't have any experience with them so I'm going to have to talk with someone first.  On the inside I've been looking at axial fans and hot water radiator coils.

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So spent substrate and wood chips will create compost?




should make dank compost, but I'm really more concerned about getting heat out of the pile. 

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I'm curious if it will compost as well.  wood takes a lot of nitrogen to decompose, and spent substrates will need nitrogen as well.  what is your nitrogen source going to be?




Well this is maybe why it's not 'great' compost.  Most of the recipes I've seen are about 80-90% wood chips with some manure thrown in the mix, I guess as N source. 

Wood may take a lot of N to decompose quickly, but for this purpose we want it to last a year or so.  So 'low and slow' as they say. 

They were getting 140F water at 1GPM up in the freezing vermont weather.  I'm hoping to get 140 at 2-4GPM since I'll be recirculating it in a closed loop system.

again, sorry for threadjacking.  I'll make a thread as soon as I get the ball rolling.


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: drake89]
    #18893490 - 09/26/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's not a thread jack when its on topic :smile:  I was starting to feel it would be near impossible to make viable compost with limited ingredients.  My used substrate will contain grain, straw, and sawdust/woodchips.  I'm thinking add some grass for N and I'll be headed the right direction.  Anyone know a good N:C target for my compost?  I'm guessing I will have to get something to test it along the way and amend as needed.


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18893721 - 09/26/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

25:1 C:N i think.


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Re: Making Mushroom Compost [Re: drake89]
    #18894801 - 09/26/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

25(30):1 Is the sweet spot for garden compost

compost for mushrooms is a bit different I believe.


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