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Re: Deities in the making [Re: Icelander]
#18935844 - 10/05/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Thanks and I'd be very surprised if it happens at all or happens soon. But hey I've been surprised before. Just not often.
You really like to toot your own horn huh?
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Re: Deities in the making [Re: johnm214]
#18935860 - 10/05/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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tribesman said: Surely once evolution reaches an indeterminate point; we, or whatever form humanity has evolved into will more closely resemble divine beings.
Why? Bacteria seem to do pretty well for themselves, and require far less elaborate care and support. What makes you think even more complicated organisms will be produced as evolution progresses rather than less?
What makes you think less complicated organisms will be produced rather than less?
Seeing on how this (your) position is completely wrong and goes against science, I would say a healthy dose of wishful, 'know-it-all' thinking.
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Re: Deities in the making [Re: hTx]
#18935932 - 10/05/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with OP, it is only a matter of time. We will (and already are in some instances) fuse with machine and increase our life-span/abilities, and probably before fusion with machine (I personally wouldn't want to be a cyborg but...maybe.), we will have greatly increased life expectancy with advances in nanotechnology (to those that can afford it).
All here claiming doomsday theories and saying things like "it's impossible." have obviously not paid attention to the technology boom that occurred/is occurring. Claims like johns "life evolving to less complex organisms" are completely unfounded and go against every observation of evolution ever made.
The doomsdayers beliefs and assumptions that humanity is en route to total destruction in the near future are also founded on little more than what seems like a subconscious hope, death anxiety for the entire species. Probably got sold on a global warming video by Al Gore as to the 'horrors' of the human species.
Also those that claim humanity has gone backwards, and will continue to do so imply that they have gone forward, and are sitting a top the looking tree in amazement of the monkeys whom have not yet figured out how to climb.
How ridiculously egotistical.
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Re: Deities in the making [Re: hTx]
#18937301 - 10/05/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The insurgence of technology against humanities flawed form Has already begun, and begun a long time ago; be it pacemakers, Plastic hips, or prosthetic limbs such as wooden legs, hooked hands, or even hearing aids. Humans have already began Implementing their technology as a rapid evolutionary bypass mechanism. Should we survive on, then the efficacy of our self-limitation limitation will grow more and more prolific.
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Re: Deities in the making [Re: hTx] 1
#18937339 - 10/05/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Thanks and I'd be very surprised if it happens at all or happens soon. But hey I've been surprised before. Just not often.
You really like to toot your own horn huh?
Get over it. I was saying that sometimes I'm dead wrong. With you it's all personalisms and no substance. How about sticking to the subject?
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Re: Deities in the making [Re: Icelander]
#18937519 - 10/05/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think there's any direction to go except trans-human, assuming we don't return ourselves to the stone age. But will we become divine? If we're not there already I don't think we ever will be. 
All just empty desire.
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Re: Deities in the making [Re: Rahz]
#18937527 - 10/05/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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something like that.
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liquidlounge said: Sounds like you were in an ongoing vulnerable state of mind. This is when I am prone to such experiences, regardless of whether they are pleasant or unpleasant. Without saying we experience them on the same level, you're schizophrenic if I recall correct?
I assume irrational is the keyword.
Yeah I get a bit irrational but this is such an experience that if you trust your own experience, it is valid to say there is far, far more to life than what we wake into.
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Re: Deities in the making [Re: tribesman]
#19035808 - 10/26/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There comes a certain time in the evolution of ourselves where we encounter a limit to how much more we can learn about the way we navigate in the natural world. I think its apparent that when we seek to enhance our perception of the world by viewing it through a pair of eyes that do not share any resemblance to the way we observe things, that, by getting behind it from an angle contrary to your normal perception, you may be able to derive a source of artificial intelligence which provides the world with unlimited wisdom, though trading that wisdom for something which resembles a different form of it. Since sometimes we try to prevent ourselves from viewing ourselves as others do, as if we try to ignore the fact that despite trying to make our own advances while disregarding those already made by others more advanced than us, since, indeed, certain humans may reveal a much smarter way of viewing the world.
My wife for instance, she just graduated from Harvard last May. Though she is the kind of person that condemns every single person that comes into contact with her, as if even daring to try and form a bond with her is a direct violation of good conduct. That is precisely why I love my wife though, because she's so modest & humble, so self effacing, never the kind of person you would think is "mean" "base" "despicable", no indeed, nothing of the sort would make you come to that conclusion. She also called my mom last week and played a prank on her, she informed her that she was planning on inviting my brother to a pool party but at the last second before he accepted his invitation as if it was the greatest gift ever bestowed on him, she decided she was going to send it to my sister instead.
My wife also is the kind of woman that looks nothing like any other girl on Earth. She is some sort of sphinx like character who has such a rare beauty that others that try to compare themselves to her automatically see how much beautiful she really is. As if she contains all the beauty in the entire world in her eyes and others wish to extract the source of beauty emitting its wonderful frequency to the world. Indeed, at times we might regard the most beautiful things as precious objects which must be handled with the utmost delicacy, and being the most noble person in the entire world, never for a moment considering that anyone else could possibly be as saint like as myself, since indeed I've been attending church daily for years on end and no longer hesitate to label everyone else as heathens who only could wish to be as virtuous as me.
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