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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: omegafaust]
#18888470 - 09/25/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This thread is awesome! So much facepalm going on in here.
Honestly, the earth isnt gaining weight. Not from how OP thinks anyways. We may gain negligible weight from asteroids/meteors but thats about it.
The earth for this scenario is like a closed system, everything that grows on it, is just a transfer of mass/energy.
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thats like an opinion, man.
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I wonder how much the earth gains from space dust and meteors annually
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Human skin is made from the food we eat which was already on the planet. We're an ecosystem, we recycle.
Weight adding is not an issue.
But lets dive into theory.. If you keep on packing mass onto the Earth it will get hotter and hotter. There comes a point where the planet turns to lava. Then there comes a point that lava vaporizes until we are a ball of plasma. Then there comes a point where thermonuclear fusion ignites and the Earth becomes a star, add still more mass and we'll blow off most mass in a supernova explosion, leaving a neutron star, a perfectly round ball 7.5 miles across. Its unbelievably dense: one teaspoon full of that stuff weighs as much as 900x the Great Pyramid of Giza. If you add more weight it causes some fireworks: if you drop a can of softdrink into the Neutron Star's gravity field it will hit the surface with a force as large as the Hiroshima nuke, and a speed that could send you around the world 2.5 times in a single second.
At that pressure, only neutrons remain, and under a crust the center of the 7.5 mile sphere contains a liquid comprised of tightly packed neutrons.
But we add more and more mass. What we now see is that the more we add the SMALLER the sphere gets. Something's got to give..
And it does! The pressure becomes so high that neutrons blow apart into their composing quarks, triggering enormous energy, which causes the whole ball of neutrons to go off at once. This event is called Quark deconfinement, and ten times more energy is released than with a supernova, leaving a small ball called a Quark Star.
If you add more and more mass still, in the end the ball thats only a few miles in diameter suddenly collapses and a black hole remains.
Add more and more mass and the black hole gets bigger and bigger. At first we were adding planetary masses, then solar masses, but now we toss in galaxy masses and even supercluster masses. If you keep on packing mass, strictly theoretically, it might just be that the black hole, by now lightyears in circumference, may suddenly blow out all its mass, either in this dimension or another, causing a Big Bang, creating a new universe. But, like the Big Bang itself, thats just theory.
So we started with destroying more and more and we end up with creating a universe. Not a bad point to end the post with.
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: Asante]
#18888567 - 09/25/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sup wiccan. valid theory.
but how is a planet going to explode and create a neutron star. we do not have the amount of volatile elements to cause such a reaction.
Planets cool and die. and there are planets much larger made of more volatile chemicals that maintain stasis.
and a neutron star is created by a red giant exploding, and our planet is nowhere near the consistency of a red giant. even adding on mass wouldn't create such a reaction, you need density.
we can't trigger an effect like that, and I find it unlikely that we could under any currently known circumstances.
however it is an interesting hypothesis.
That and I'm just blowin smoke out of my ass.
thanks for the thought provoking post though!
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: Asante]
#18888569 - 09/25/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The earth actually does gain mass -- from space dust and particles that fall to earth. about 40,000 tons (i could be off on this exact number) each year
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: Asante]
#18888574 - 09/25/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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are you saying we need to put the whole world on a diet/exercise program?
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: Envix]
#18888582 - 09/25/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I only weigh either 62lbs or 238lbs?
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: dark3st]
#18888608 - 09/25/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Carls Jr is gonna take over the world and one day we're gonna be so fat we just fly out of orbit into space.
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: Patlal]
#18888639 - 09/25/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Patlal said:

Clearly OP understands nothing about science...
This. The earth is mostly a closed system. Any weight that is gained by a person comes from the Earth and goes back into the earth. The only way the Earth could "gain weight" would be if it got hit by a bunch of asteroids or something.
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: Asante]
#18888644 - 09/25/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Human skin is made from the food we eat which was already on the planet. We're an ecosystem, we recycle.
Weight adding is not an issue.
But lets dive into theory.. If you keep on packing mass onto the Earth it will get hotter and hotter. There comes a point where the planet turns to lava. Then there comes a point that lava vaporizes until we are a ball of plasma. Then there comes a point where thermonuclear fusion ignites and the Earth becomes a star, add still more mass and we'll blow off most mass in a supernova explosion, leaving a neutron star, a perfectly round ball 7.5 miles across. Its unbelievably dense: one teaspoon full of that stuff weighs as much as 900x the Great Pyramid of Giza. If you add more weight it causes some fireworks: if you drop a can of softdrink into the Neutron Star's gravity field it will hit the surface with a force as large as the Hiroshima nuke, and a speed that could send you around the world 2.5 times in a single second.
At that pressure, only neutrons remain, and under a crust the center of the 7.5 mile sphere contains a liquid comprised of tightly packed neutrons.
But we add more and more mass. What we now see is that the more we add the SMALLER the sphere gets. Something's got to give..
And it does! The pressure becomes so high that neutrons blow apart into their composing quarks, triggering enormous energy, which causes the whole ball of neutrons to go off at once. This event is called Quark deconfinement, and ten times more energy is released than with a supernova, leaving a small ball called a Quark Star.
If you add more and more mass still, in the end the ball thats only a few miles in diameter suddenly collapses and a black hole remains.
Add more and more mass and the black hole gets bigger and bigger. At first we were adding planetary masses, then solar masses, but now we toss in galaxy masses and even supercluster masses. If you keep on packing mass, strictly theoretically, it might just be that the black hole, by now lightyears in circumference, may suddenly blow out all its mass, either in this dimension or another, causing a Big Bang, creating a new universe. But, like the Big Bang itself, thats just theory.
So we started with destroying more and more and we end up with creating a universe. Not a bad point to end the post with.
i was only fucking off and the OP is due to lack of sleep and too much coffee. your read on the other hand was quite interesting.
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: omegafaust]
#18888671 - 09/25/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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omegafaust said: Sup wiccan. valid theory.
but how is a planet going to explode and create a neutron star. we do not have the amount of volatile elements to cause such a reaction.
Planets cool and die. and there are planets much larger made of more volatile chemicals that maintain stasis.
and a neutron star is created by a red giant exploding, and our planet is nowhere near the consistency of a red giant. even adding on mass wouldn't create such a reaction, you need density.
we can't trigger an effect like that, and I find it unlikely that we could under any currently known circumstances.
however it is an interesting hypothesis.
That and I'm just blowin smoke out of my ass.
thanks for the thought provoking post though!
I guess you didnt read what I wrote with full attention, mass is continuously being added on an ever increasing scale.
We have a whoooole lot of hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen sulfur, silicon and other stellar fuels in our earth's composition and if you keep on adding mass it will thermonuclearly combust at an ever increasing rate.
Even water and sand are nuclear fuels if the accumulation of mass is big enough. Humans in fact are stellar nuclear fuel.
Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundances_of_the_elements_%28data_page%29
Most of what Earth is made of can be fused to Iron.
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: Asante]
#18888703 - 09/25/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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another interesting bit of information - the earth had natural fission reactions going on roughly 1.7 billion years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor
interesting stuff.
Edited by StateOfMind404 (09/25/13 11:02 AM)
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: 404]
#18888737 - 09/25/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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*fission
And it still happens, near earth's core.
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: Asante]
#18888750 - 09/25/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The minimum amount of mass required for spontaneous fusion is about 10^28kg, roughly 100x the mass of jupiter.
It certainly is theoretically possible. but unbelievably unlikely.
A star is described as an object that is large enough that the heat at the core ignite fusion.
the earth is far too small and by the time we accumulate that much mass the sun is sure to have created a supernova destroying it.
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: omegafaust]
#18888761 - 09/25/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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can we get back to the topic please? what actually happened to the dinosaurs...
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: omegafaust]
#18888763 - 09/25/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats why I made clear its hypothetical, but if you add that much mass, thats approximately what you'd get.
Near the end of the post I'm adding mass by the supercluster. Its all theoretic.
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: Asante]
#18888771 - 09/25/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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so what youre saying is my thread has the possibility of creating a new universe?
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I understand your hypothetical. That's why i thanked your for the thought provoking post. i just like to stretch my mind muscle man no offense meant.
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Re: earths weight limit? [Re: omegafaust]
#18888814 - 09/25/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i appreciate that but i think you were talking to wiccan
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