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Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance?
#18887498 - 09/25/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cmon all you healthy 20 year olds. They are counting on you to go out and pay through the nose for coverage you don't needd to make Obamacare work. 
That is, pay for insurance that you will never use.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: starfire_xes]
#18887508 - 09/25/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got lucky I have free health insurance till im 26
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: starfire_xes]
#18887511 - 09/25/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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A lot of people actually would rather die then go to a hospital, you should really think about what you're saying
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Konyap]
#18887526 - 09/25/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sources plz
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: starfire_xes]
#18887536 - 09/25/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Cmon all you healthy 20 year olds. They are counting on you to go out and pay through the nose for coverage you don't needd to make Obamacare work. 
That is, pay for insurance that you will never use.
Tell me what's going on I don't watch the news and I don't have insurance. Am I about to start paying more taxes?
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: MorphinTime]
#18887542 - 09/25/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said:
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starfire_xes said: Cmon all you healthy 20 year olds. They are counting on you to go out and pay through the nose for coverage you don't needd to make Obamacare work. 
That is, pay for insurance that you will never use.
Tell me what's going on I don't watch the news and I don't have insurance. Am I about to start paying more taxes?
government is taking over health care. you are now being forced buy insurance. and on another note if you are fat or a smoker you could be paying more, which means employers will not want you
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18887544 - 09/25/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fat people are pretty cheap after they're dead.
You must be talking about diabetes.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: starfire_xes]
#18887561 - 09/25/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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can obummer care just fuck right off already.
stupidest shit ever.
no government should be able to decide on my health care..
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18887592 - 09/25/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Led Zeppelin said: government is taking over health care. you are now being forced buy insurance. and on another note if you are fat or a smoker you could be paying more, which means employers will not want you
How does this work? Am I required to actively take care of something/get a physical or is money auto-deducted from my paycheck or what?
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: MorphinTime]
#18887594 - 09/25/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said:
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Led Zeppelin said: government is taking over health care. you are now being forced buy insurance. and on another note if you are fat or a smoker you could be paying more, which means employers will not want you
How does this work? Am I required to actively take care of something/get a physical or is money auto-deducted from my paycheck or what?
youre required to buy the govts health insurance or you get in trouble. how have you not heard of obamacare?
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18887601 - 09/25/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've heard of it I just never really looked into what it is or how it works 
Also I had health insurance until June of this year so I wasn't really concerned.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: MorphinTime]
#18887622 - 09/25/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I still don't have health insurance. It sucks.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: ShiVersblood] 2
#18887698 - 09/25/13 02:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Republicans: "How dare the government try to do something good for people, let's run the county off a cliff to keep it from happening" Fuck off. The bill passed and your guy lost the election, get over it already and let us move forward.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Lynnch]
#18887723 - 09/25/13 03:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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As usual there's a lot of false rumors being circulated by the right to scare everybody into opposing it. Remember the "death panels"? The biggest obstacle will be Republicans who will deliberately sabotage it to prove a point.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Le_Canard]
#18887735 - 09/25/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They don't need to prove a point to me, they are already proved they are against me.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: ShiVersblood] 1
#18887786 - 09/25/13 03:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I pay a tax for NHS and receive free health care. Fractured my wrist on the weekend, went AE waited 20 minutes, was seen by a hot doctor, put a splint on....told me I was very manly and put 40 x 30mg codeines in my hand and I went about my day. No bill to settle or drugs to pay for. I lik it that way
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: starfire_xes]
#18887848 - 09/25/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Force a generation of frustrated post 2008 youths who have been denied a future to pay what little wealth/income they have into a new never to be claimed pit (like social security)?
Can't wait to see how this turns out.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Nova] 1
#18887867 - 09/25/13 04:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The penalty for no insurance is about $100 or 1% of your income.
I wish they would have passed an alternative "no care provided" clause for the smug 20 year olds that don't want to carry insurance. Don't want insurance, fine. But show up at the ER and you're refused treatment, even if you die.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: badchad]
#18887868 - 09/25/13 04:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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badchad said: The penalty for no insurance is about $100 or 1% of your income.
I wish they would have passed an alternative "no care provided" clause for the smug 20 year olds that don't want to carry insurance. Don't want insurance, fine. But show up at the ER and you're refused treatment, even if you die.
or they could have not done this whole thing in the first place
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18887871 - 09/25/13 04:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Led Zeppelin said:
or they could have not done this whole thing in the first place
I would have proposed the "pay or die" system in in the absence of Obamacare as well.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Nova]
#18887873 - 09/25/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nova said: Force a generation of frustrated post 2008 youths who have been denied a future to pay what little wealth/income they have into a new never to be claimed pit (like social security)?
Can't wait to see how this turns out.
Says who? If you're younger than 26 and unmarried, you can stay on your parent's plan. What you'r saying is just rumor, AFAIK.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Le_Canard] 2
#18887878 - 09/25/13 04:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck having an insurance company decide if I'm covered or not
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18887879 - 09/25/13 04:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You don't have to have insurance if you make under a certain amount. Otherwise you have to or you get fined as stated above.
You don't buy the insurance from the government, but from private insurance companies just like car insurance.
If you buy insurance, then you don't pay a thing to the government. You pay to the insurance company. If you get insurance through your work then you're already covered and don't need to do anything.
The ER still has to treat you whether or not you have insurance.
I agree that the requirement that you have to have insurance is absolutely stupid and complete bullshit and should never have been passed, but the law also requires insurance companies to cover people with preexisting conditions. Previously, you could be rejected for fucking anything (and I mean anything). Now if you apply they have to take you. So, I agree with the part of the law that requires insurance companies to accept people with preexisting conditions.
Edited by nooneman (09/25/13 05:01 AM)
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: nooneman]
#18887884 - 09/25/13 05:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't mind NHS. Medical bills here is just something you don't have to worry about. Though being government funded it's logistics are shit but if you want amazing speed and care you can go private. No family is going to get fucked for bills though
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Le_Canard]
#18887892 - 09/25/13 05:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ToiletDuk said: If you're younger than 26 and unmarried, you can stay on your parent's plan.
If you're no longer covered by a parent's plan because that plan only extended coverage until the age of 21 or the date of graduation as a full-time student, can you now get back on that parent's plan until the age of 26? I would guess not (or maybe it depends on the insurance provider), but I really hope that's an option.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: MorphinTime]
#18887894 - 09/25/13 05:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's the way I read it, yes.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Le_Canard]
#18887951 - 09/25/13 06:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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After all expenses I still wont be able to pay for this shit, its bull shit.
What if you don't pay the 100 or 1%? Cuz I'm not fuck em I didn't vote for this shit.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: dark3st]
#18887957 - 09/25/13 06:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dark3st said: After all expenses I still wont be able to pay for this shit, its bull shit.
What if you don't pay the 100 or 1%? Cuz I'm not fuck em I didn't vote for this shit.
In UK part of our tax goes to covering the identity of some paedophiles and bombing children  Welcome to democracy
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Fire is Born]
#18887965 - 09/25/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pedos are not the reasion for this bill nor is bombing children, both I have no issue with(because of legitimate logic. Forcing me to pay for insurance is BS ontop of the attempt of gun laws.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: dark3st]
#18887967 - 09/25/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dark3st said:
What if you don't pay the 100 or 1%?
I'm guessing it'll be taken from your taxes, but that's complete speculation. In the end, you'll probably have either the IRS or a collections agency coming after you.
I think part of the logic is that since an ER is forced to treat you, you should be forced to pay.
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Edited by badchad (09/25/13 06:10 AM)
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: dark3st]
#18887978 - 09/25/13 06:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dark3st said: Pedos are not the reasion for this bill nor is bombing children, both I have no issue with(because of legitimate logic. Forcing me to pay for insurance is BS ontop of the attempt of gun laws.
My point was you don't get to pick and choose what legislation you abide by and what you don't. ...not without consequences
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Fire is Born]
#18887987 - 09/25/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ahh ok I see. Its still BS
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: dark3st]
#18888032 - 09/25/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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how many things are they going to force us to do?.. jeezus, so much mandatory these days. its everywhere, in the interwebs too. you know who you are, google!
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: zZZz]
#18888102 - 09/25/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dawg don't say shit about Google, its nearly as bad as threatening the Obama.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: dark3st]
#18888125 - 09/25/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fuck google,
yahoo l33t represent!
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: zZZz]
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: zZZz]
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: starfire_xes] 2
#18888154 - 09/25/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Cmon all you healthy 20 year olds. They are counting on you to go out and pay through the nose for coverage you don't needd to make Obamacare work. 
That is, pay for insurance that you will never use.
You are deluded.
Young people not getting health insurance is dumb, its antisocial and its irresponsible.
Its antisocial because we all must do our share to take care of the ill among us. In that Obama is right and he shares this point of view with, oh say, almost the entire rest of the world. Humans take care of their own, we have for hundreds of thousands of years and it sets us apart from the animals.
Then, its dumb. Healthy 20yo's get in situations that lead to enormous medical expenses ALL THE TIME. Especially when they are incvolved with drugs. Someone here on the site got a freakish dental disease leading to $20,000 in dentist bills. The frickin DENTIST! "it wont happen to me" is what got us in this economic crisis to begin with. Theres no such thing as Too Big To Fail or Too Healthy To Be Insured. Thats head-in-the-sand type of thinking.
Lastly its irresponsible. Its irresponsible to incite our young people, who often arent quite affluent, to not insure themselves by giving them a false sense of security. A good number of those who follow your advice will get large medical bills that may dampen their financial independence or bankrupt them, and its irresponsible towards society for talking them out of the solidarity principle.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: dark3st]
#18888163 - 09/25/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm conflicted on the shit because the only part of the bill I agree with is preexisting conditions being covered, however I only feel this way if coverage has been in place since before the conditions were found. My wife and I own 2 businesses, and are still on her cobra from work that we spend $1100 a month for, however because she is bi-polar, and also has possible cervical cancer (we are waiting on lab results) no insurance company will write us a family policy with her on it, and I understand as a business owner why. We've been paying our insurance all along, this isn't a case of I got sick now let me go buy insurance, since we can't convert her work group policy we have to go with a new company because our current insurance carrier is from out of state and they don't do individual policies for out of state families and we cant get a policy which is bullshit and we are losing our coverage do to company policy.
I agree no one should be forced to buy shit and I think Obama care as a whole just will cost too much in the end and fail, but should a family that has been paying their premiums for six years, and is now losing their coverage due to company policy be forced to lose all chance of getting coverage because of prexisting conditions? that shit isn't right either. Insurance is insurance you are supposed to have it before something happens which we do, but because of circumstances beyond our control we are losing it and may not be able to get new coverage because of preexisting conditions I personally think Obama care is a slush fund we won't know the effectiveness or failure of it for years, I hope it doesn't fail too bad, my wife's life may depend on it and I wish I made enough I could just pay it all in cash.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Asante]
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starfire_xes said: Cmon all you healthy 20 year olds. They are counting on you to go out and pay through the nose for coverage you don't needd to make Obamacare work. 
That is, pay for insurance that you will never use.
You are deluded.
Young people not getting health insurance is dumb, its antisocial and its irresponsible.
Its antisocial because we all must do our share to take care of the ill among us. In that Obama is right and he shares this point of view with, oh say, almost the entire rest of the world. Humans take care of their own, we have for hundreds of thousands of years and it sets us apart from the animals.
Then, its dumb. Healthy 20yo's get in situations that lead to enormous medical expenses ALL THE TIME. Especially when they are incvolved with drugs. Someone here on the site got a freakish dental disease leading to $20,000 in dentist bills. The frickin DENTIST! "it wont happen to me" is what got us in this economic crisis to begin with. Theres no such thing as Too Big To Fail or Too Healthy To Be Insured. Thats head-in-the-sand type of thinking.
Lastly its irresponsible. Its irresponsible to incite our young people, who often arent quite affluent, to not insure themselves by giving them a false sense of security. A good number of those who follow your advice will get large medical bills that may dampen their financial independence or bankrupt them, and its irresponsible towards society for talking them out of the solidarity principle.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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I get health, dental, vision, and prescription insurance through work for free. The last time I went to the dentist I got a root canal and it cost me $25 out of pocket and $0.47 for my vicodin prescription.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Man I have read shit in this thread that made me go wow...
I'm still not too sure how obamacare works (or how the US healthcare system works). Can anybody give me a brief explanation of what this crap is all about?
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: FruitOfLife]
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It's unlikely you get insurance for "free" through your employer. Check your paystub. It's more likely you're offered an insurance plan at a discount through your employer.
In the event that you do your insurance "free", it's likely you're paying for it indirectly through some sort of compensation.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: FruitOfLife]
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Fa fa fuck Obama care fa fa Obama care (chanted like ADTR)
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: Man I have read shit in this thread that made me go wow...
I know.. Makes me happy to be Canadian.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Patlal said: Man I have read shit in this thread that made me go wow...
I know.. Makes me happy to be Canadian.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Fire is Born]
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Patlal said: Man I have read shit in this thread that made me go wow...
I know.. Makes me happy to be Canadian.
You guys have National health care too right?
Yup
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Konyap]
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aiyobro said: A lot of people actually would rather die then go to a hospital, you should really think about what you're saying
I would give anything to go back in time and shoot myself in the head before I was sent to a psychiatric hospital for the first time.
I didn't need it and it had far worse repercussions than any of the mischief that landed me there (I decided to kick a K2 habit cold turkey and couldn't sleep for 4 days).
I have a schizophrenia dx on my record and can't (legally ) own a gun. They kept me for over a month and a half and it amounted to well over $50,000 just for 3 meals a day, 2 minutes (literally) with a psychiatrist 3-5 days a week, and all the pills they could treat my adverse reactions to their other pills with.
Only the social worker was allowed to talk to my (horribly distressed) parents. The first words out of her mouth were always "The insurance is paying like clockwork" (verbatim as my dad recounted it). They had to bring up me and how I was doing.
The night I drank a 5th of rum tring to fall asleep (I have a family member in hospice and hadn't been able to sleep over it until I finally got a benzo script), I woke up to find out I had made a long post about my (drunken) intention to murder the psychiatrist who treated me.
I'd rather cut his dick off and shoot him up with Invega Sustena.
Went back to same hospital 2 years later after being mostly fine thanks to getting off their meds... I just happened to "OD" sort of (unresponsive in room cause of nitrous).
First words out of that Arabian fucks mouth were "Why did you stop taking this medicine?"
First words out of mine were "Because real doctors took me off it and told my family we should file a lawsuit against you".
I might frame him for child porn. Quick, dirty, easy, and would spare many from him. Second and last time I was there, he was treating a rape victim as a schizophrenic and giving her involuntary electroshock (unbelievable, I know, but they still do that and I have to admit it seemed to help the severely depressed patients).
Her delusion of being raped never went away. Probably something to do with the newspaper articles she showed me about her purported assailant being charged with rape.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: badchad]
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badchad said: It's unlikely you get insurance for "free" through your employer. Check your paystub. It's more likely you're offered an insurance plan at a discount through your employer.
In the event that you do your insurance "free", it's likely you're paying for it indirectly through some sort of compensation.
My insurance is FREEEE and if I had a wife and kids it would be FREEEE for them too. I am in a union and in our contract with the company has to provide us with these benefits.
In fact, our new union contract is suppose in place now but it delayed because my company wanted to change its insurance policies and make us pay part of it, but luckily the union folks are good at negotiating so we have another 5 years of this awesome insurance until the next contract is up
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: FruitOfLife]
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badchad said: It's unlikely you get insurance for "free" through your employer. Check your paystub. It's more likely you're offered an insurance plan at a discount through your employer.
In the event that you do your insurance "free", it's likely you're paying for it indirectly through some sort of compensation.
My insurance is FREEEE and if I had a wife and kids it would be FREEEE for them too. I am in a union and in our contract with the company has to provide us with these benefits.
In fact, our new union contract is suppose in place now but it delayed because my company wanted to change its insurance policies and make us pay part of it, but luckily the union folks are good at negotiating so we have another 5 years of this awesome insurance until the next contract is up
I love the labor movement. Saw an awesome bumper sticker that said "Weekends: Brought to you by the Labor Movement" lolol.
Mad respect bro. Just wish unions weren't so mafioso, or was that just in (relative) antiquity?
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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I know.. Makes me happy to be Canadian.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Asante]
#18888425 - 09/25/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Cmon all you healthy 20 year olds. They are counting on you to go out and pay through the nose for coverage you don't needd to make Obamacare work. 
That is, pay for insurance that you will never use.
You are deluded.
Young people not getting health insurance is dumb, its antisocial and its irresponsible.
Its antisocial because we all must do our share to take care of the ill among us. In that Obama is right and he shares this point of view with, oh say, almost the entire rest of the world. Humans take care of their own, we have for hundreds of thousands of years and it sets us apart from the animals.
Then, its dumb. Healthy 20yo's get in situations that lead to enormous medical expenses ALL THE TIME. Especially when they are incvolved with drugs. Someone here on the site got a freakish dental disease leading to $20,000 in dentist bills. The frickin DENTIST! "it wont happen to me" is what got us in this economic crisis to begin with. Theres no such thing as Too Big To Fail or Too Healthy To Be Insured. Thats head-in-the-sand type of thinking.
Lastly its irresponsible. Its irresponsible to incite our young people, who often arent quite affluent, to not insure themselves by giving them a false sense of security. A good number of those who follow your advice will get large medical bills that may dampen their financial independence or bankrupt them, and its irresponsible towards society for talking them out of the solidarity principle.
Lets be perfectly clear here, Obama Care is NOT universal health care, this is not the same health care program that is practiced by the rest of the developed world (most of the Euro zone, Canada, Australia ect.)
Obama Care was NOT written by liberals like Obama, the health care lobbyists with the big money wrote up Obama Care, this is not a government takeover of health care, this is a corporate takeover of health care.
Health care in the US is a for PROFIT business, Obama care was written so that corporate health care can PROFIT even more, this is not socialist health care.
The critics (Republicans) of Obama Care don't even argue the corrupt points of this policy, why? Because they are basically are in on it themselves.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: qman]
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I was going against the call for our young members to go around uninsured, not the specifics of that healthcare plan.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: qman]
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starfire_xes said: Cmon all you healthy 20 year olds. They are counting on you to go out and pay through the nose for coverage you don't needd to make Obamacare work. 
That is, pay for insurance that you will never use.
You are deluded.
Young people not getting health insurance is dumb, its antisocial and its irresponsible.
Its antisocial because we all must do our share to take care of the ill among us. In that Obama is right and he shares this point of view with, oh say, almost the entire rest of the world. Humans take care of their own, we have for hundreds of thousands of years and it sets us apart from the animals.
Then, its dumb. Healthy 20yo's get in situations that lead to enormous medical expenses ALL THE TIME. Especially when they are incvolved with drugs. Someone here on the site got a freakish dental disease leading to $20,000 in dentist bills. The frickin DENTIST! "it wont happen to me" is what got us in this economic crisis to begin with. Theres no such thing as Too Big To Fail or Too Healthy To Be Insured. Thats head-in-the-sand type of thinking.
Lastly its irresponsible. Its irresponsible to incite our young people, who often arent quite affluent, to not insure themselves by giving them a false sense of security. A good number of those who follow your advice will get large medical bills that may dampen their financial independence or bankrupt them, and its irresponsible towards society for talking them out of the solidarity principle.
Lets be perfectly clear here, Obama Care is NOT universal health care, this is not the same health care program that is practiced by the rest of the developed world (most of the Euro zone, Canada, Australia ect.)
Obama Care was NOT written by liberals like Obama, the health care lobbyists with the big money wrote up Obama Care, this is not a government takeover of health care, this is a corporate takeover of health care.
Health care in the US is a for PROFIT business, Obama care was written so that corporate health care can PROFIT even more, this is not socialist health care.
The critics (Republicans) of Obama Care don't even argue the corrupt points of this policy, why? Because they are basically are in on it themselves.
I'm QFT-ing both gman and Wiccan.
If it were truly socialized healthcare out to protect everybody, he wouldn't be exempting his favorite big corporations (not confirmed by me, but seems to be a common misconception if it's not actually true).
That said, when I was 20 and on top of the fucking world, I got hospitalized (see my 2nd or 3rd post up that nobody's going to read) and would have been slammed with a bill exceeding 50,000 for INVOLUNTARY medical care (i.e. psychiatric hospitals literally just rubber stamp you through a court if you want to leave before they want you to).
My parents grew up poor as fuck and consequently saved diligently, so $50,000 would be inconvenient but it wouldn't really have any consequences for us.
And what if my parents hadn't been so prudent? People lose their homes over shit like this.
A crowned Mr. Universe once presented at the school my mom taught at. He figured he's such a healthy body builder, etc. that he didn't need to waste money on health insurance.
He now scrapes by by telling of his financial ruin that he'll never get out of since he later found out he has a degenerative disease that he and he alone has to pay for treatment of. Insurance won't touch him, or wouldn't.
It's good we get to stay on our parents plans till 26 though and by then, hopefully everyone's figured out we're not actually invincible and gets a plan.
I've talked friends into shelling out over a thousand dollars out of pocket (while they're struggling to pay for college and living on ramen) so that they don't have any discontinuity in their healthcare coverage.
Doesn't matter how young you are if you get hit by a car.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: I was going against the call for our young members to go around uninsured, not the specifics of that healthcare plan.
For many young people, the insurance is unaffordable, and it's far from full coverage. Most plans have high deductibles and 35% of the medical costs, insurance pay 65%.
Health care in the US is a racket, and so is Obama Care. I believe universal health care is the best policy.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: qman]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: I was going against the call for our young members to go around uninsured, not the specifics of that healthcare plan.
For many young people, the insurance is unaffordable, and it's far from full coverage. Most plans have high deductibles and 35% of the medical costs, insurance pay 65%.
Health care in the US is a racket, and so is Obama Care. I believe universal health care is the best policy.
When you're young, you want major medical, not a convenient way to write off that Doxycycline script your ENT doc gave you.
Catastrophe insurance is what the young need.
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starfire_xes said: Cmon all you healthy 20 year olds. They are counting on you to go out and pay through the nose for coverage you don't needd to make Obamacare work. 
That is, pay for insurance that you will never use.
You are deluded.
Young people not getting health insurance is dumb, its antisocial and its irresponsible.
Its antisocial because we all must do our share to take care of the ill among us. In that Obama is right and he shares this point of view with, oh say, almost the entire rest of the world. Humans take care of their own, we have for hundreds of thousands of years and it sets us apart from the animals.
Then, its dumb. Healthy 20yo's get in situations that lead to enormous medical expenses ALL THE TIME. Especially when they are incvolved with drugs. Someone here on the site got a freakish dental disease leading to $20,000 in dentist bills. The frickin DENTIST! "it wont happen to me" is what got us in this economic crisis to begin with. Theres no such thing as Too Big To Fail or Too Healthy To Be Insured. Thats head-in-the-sand type of thinking.
Lastly its irresponsible. Its irresponsible to incite our young people, who often arent quite affluent, to not insure themselves by giving them a false sense of security. A good number of those who follow your advice will get large medical bills that may dampen their financial independence or bankrupt them, and its irresponsible towards society for talking them out of the solidarity principle.
 This.
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the US is basically alone among developed nations in lacking universal health care--all while still managing to have the highest per capita spending and, on average, poorer service
you folks are being thrown under the bus by the private medical and insurance industry--and you are all so focused on opposing 'socialism' to even give a fuck


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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Highest expenditure but #1 for effectiveness. Rich Canadians with health issues come here for a reason.
If you aren't lucky though, you can get fucked financially for life, or worse: fucked health-wise.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: st1llnox]
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i don't think many would deny that the US offers top rate medical service--but yea, with that one caveat, if you can afford it
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: st1llnox]
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Highest expenditure but #1 for effectiveness. Rich Canadians with health issues come here for a reason.

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If you aren't lucky though, you can get fucked financially for life, or worse: fucked health-wise.
Lots of things can fuck one financially for life.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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nope i still have tricare through my parents .
either way id rather pay the 1% penalty this year before I start my new job.
and yeah rabble rabble rabble Obamacare is ruining your life. Its just a step towards a single payer system like the rest of the intelligent world implemented a decade ago.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: st1llnox]
#18888618 - 09/25/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you aren't lucky though, you can get fucked financially for life, or worse: fucked health-wise.
I agree, but it doesn't necessarily have to do with "luck" IMO. Go visit any number of health care sites. You can get good insurance for $100-150/month. About the cost of a cell phone and sack of drugs.
The young don't prioritize such things though, so they wait until some catastrophic comes to get health care. Then they get screwed by a huge bill. Health care coverage should be included in public education.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Asante]
#18888758 - 09/25/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: I was going against the call for our young members to go around uninsured, not the specifics of that healthcare plan.
Seeing as how many Libertarians there are around here, I'm surprised by the dearth of cries of "let 'em die if the can't pay".
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#18889685 - 09/25/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: i don't think many would deny that the US offers top rate medical service--but yea, with that one caveat, if you can afford it
The patient safety thing is kind of worrisome too, but that just means its not as good as 5 of the very best other country's systems. If we were ranked below, say, Pakistan, I'd be worried.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: qman] 2
#18889711 - 09/25/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: For many young people, the insurance is unaffordable, and it's far from full coverage. Most plans have high deductibles and 35% of the medical costs, insurance pay 65%.
Health care in the US is a racket, and so is Obama Care. I believe universal health care is the best policy.
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many of wiccans reasonings are based on the accepting that it is normal or okay for medical bills to be in the multiple tens of thousands and therefore we need to be insured against those costs. a freak dental accident should not cost 20k and this is where the true problem is.
all i see obama care doing is forcing insurance companies to take on more of these huge $$$ patients which means they will pass those charges on to everyone elses monthly bills. its socialized health care but in the WORST possible way because it is still based on private for profit companies.
imo insurance in general needs to be eliminated so that either a) free market forces can drive prices into the ground or b) true govt socialized health care can cover everyone
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: st1llnox]
#18889716 - 09/25/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: unknown1123]
#18889809 - 09/25/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some of the posts in this thread are laughable at best.
Under the affordable care act there is no mention of adding more doctors/PAs/Nurses or opening new schools to train more yet they expect the current system to sustain hundreds of thousands of new patients while supposedly giving me "improved healthcare". There may not be plans for more doctors but the IRS is expecting to hire 16,000 new agents to track down and extract funds from those who do not pay the "fine". Those younger people who would usually carry major medical are being told this is unacceptable coverage and being made to carry more extensive (and expensive) insurance or face the fine as well.
Of course the insurance companies love this new influx of indentured customers despite having to swallow the bitter pill of covering preexisting conditions(not that they care as they will pass these costs onto you and I in our premiums.
Not even getting into the fact that Congress and the Senate have done everything in their power to keep their old healthcare coverage and make sure they do not fall under the affordable healthcare act by writing loopholes into the legislation.
Some of you "Thank god Obama is looking out for the little guy." people need to do a bit more research.
Obama is just as much of a corporate shill as Bush Jr. ever was, but I guess he is a "cool",black,democrat so we can pretend he isn't fucking us just as badly as any president in the past.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: unknown1123]
#18889810 - 09/25/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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forgive me for my young emotions, but this shit is fucking ridiculous, people already have shit to worry about, and now this??
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: st1llnox]
#18890460 - 09/25/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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aiyobro said: A lot of people actually would rather die then go to a hospital, you should really think about what you're saying
I would give anything to go back in time and shoot myself in the head before I was sent to a psychiatric hospital for the first time.
I didn't need it and it had far worse repercussions than any of the mischief that landed me there (I decided to kick a K2 habit cold turkey and couldn't sleep for 4 days).
I have a schizophrenia dx on my record and can't (legally ) own a gun. They kept me for over a month and a half and it amounted to well over $50,000 just for 3 meals a day, 2 minutes (literally) with a psychiatrist 3-5 days a week, and all the pills they could treat my adverse reactions to their other pills with. .
I was in there one night, the guy sent me in. He said to get me on drugs.
It turned into a screening process to see how I would handle them for one week.
The last day the bitch goes "Oh, we just have to keep you here a few more days. I ONLY said we'd talk to your mother today."
And somehow they weren't even supposed to keep me there.
Got out on the tenth day, 60,000 dollar bill and i'm taking risperdal and some other shit 3 times a day took like 1000 pills a month for three months then figured it wasnt worth it with all the side effects and lasting brain shrinkage I may get out of it, had all sorts of skin conditions too that they didn't help me with, bitch copped a attitude with my mom on the phone then another lady played the fiddle to my emergency contact.
Soulless fucks trying to put me on drugs, fuck my college semester retard and listen to my problems for 350 an hour
I think about the one person that kept me there and ridiculed me out of the blue and also called me schizo and I just want to wait til she goes home one day follow her home and fuck her car up bad with a bb gun and some keys. I fucking hate her so much after leaving that place and becoming free
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Konyap]
#18890591 - 09/25/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow mental hospitals in the states sound horrendous, up in canada they are more like hotels for the crazy, you dont pay a cent
the stay in hospital is on the government as is all the drugs *while* you are in hospital
and if your have a serious enough mental issue when you get out you can get disability (welfare for people with mental issues), or drug assistance (pay nothing for your drugs or just a few bucks)
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: hidenseek1]
#18890766 - 09/25/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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we paid 3000, but yeah it's just a long list of shit on an even bigger list of shit
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Fire is Born]
#18891256 - 09/25/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fire is Born said: Fuck having an insurance company decide if I'm covered or not
and the govt. is any better?
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: st1llnox]
#18891295 - 09/25/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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aiyobro said: A lot of people actually would rather die then go to a hospital, you should really think about what you're saying
(I decided to kick a K2 habit cold turkey and couldn't sleep for 4 days).
ohh noo not K2!
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Asante]
#18891355 - 09/25/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, it's my responsibility to help pay for expenses for a nation of fat fucks who ate themselves into Type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease. Fuck that, and fuck them. The faster they die, the happier I will be.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: starfire_xes]
#18891439 - 09/25/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Cmon all you healthy 20 year olds. They are counting on you to go out and pay through the nose for coverage you don't needd to make Obamacare work. 
That is, pay for insurance that you will never use.
I'd actually save a lot of money, assuming they pay for drugs. If not, I'm good.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Fire is Born]
#18891554 - 09/25/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fire is Born said:
My point was you don't get to pick and choose what legislation you abide by and what you don't. ...not without consequences
Really? Obama has no consequences for picking and choosing what regulations he enforces. 
But what I really want someone to tell me is how the goverment sticking themselves into the middle of the health care industry as a middleman does anything to improve the system? they've fucked up everything else they touch.
1) The system is counting on healthy young people who usually dont have insurance to buy insurance and subsidize the care of the sick and elderly.
2) People who dont make enough money qualify for subsidies up to the amount of the insurance. Whippity-do-fuck!! FREE STUFF!!!
Where is the money coming from? I imagine the taxpayer is going to squat and shit a pretty penny.
Here is the scenario I envision: The system collapses under the problems of its poor design. the republicans get blamed for 'obstructing it' an keeping it from working.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: starfire_xes]
#18891578 - 09/25/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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We need to legalize euthenasia. Doctors do it already in some form or another.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Konyap]
#18892535 - 09/26/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hate party's. Everyone should be independet without having to choose BS "parties"that pretend to care about our well being for money.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: dark3st]
#18892766 - 09/26/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're probably just jealous because nobody invites you to any parties.
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Re: Did You Get Your Ass Down To the Exchange And Get Insurance? [Re: Konyap]
#18893865 - 09/26/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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aiyobro said:
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st1llnox said:
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aiyobro said: A lot of people actually would rather die then go to a hospital, you should really think about what you're saying
I would give anything to go back in time and shoot myself in the head before I was sent to a psychiatric hospital for the first time.
I didn't need it and it had far worse repercussions than any of the mischief that landed me there (I decided to kick a K2 habit cold turkey and couldn't sleep for 4 days).
I have a schizophrenia dx on my record and can't (legally ) own a gun. They kept me for over a month and a half and it amounted to well over $50,000 just for 3 meals a day, 2 minutes (literally) with a psychiatrist 3-5 days a week, and all the pills they could treat my adverse reactions to their other pills with. .
I was in there one night, the guy sent me in. He said to get me on drugs.
It turned into a screening process to see how I would handle them for one week.
The last day the bitch goes "Oh, we just have to keep you here a few more days. I ONLY said we'd talk to your mother today."
And somehow they weren't even supposed to keep me there.
Got out on the tenth day, 60,000 dollar bill and i'm taking risperdal and some other shit 3 times a day took like 1000 pills a month for three months then figured it wasnt worth it with all the side effects and lasting brain shrinkage I may get out of it, had all sorts of skin conditions too that they didn't help me with, bitch copped a attitude with my mom on the phone then another lady played the fiddle to my emergency contact.
Soulless fucks trying to put me on drugs, fuck my college semester retard and listen to my problems for 350 an hour
I think about the one person that kept me there and ridiculed me out of the blue and also called me schizo and I just want to wait til she goes home one day follow her home and fuck her car up bad with a bb gun and some keys. I fucking hate her so much after leaving that place and becoming free
I fantasize about doing unspeakable things to the doctor at that one that got me TWICE. He's presumably muslim so to start, he'll be getting a hand drawn picture of the prophet Muhammed sodomizing him.
This isn't nearly good enough.
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