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InvisibleGilgamesh18
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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Patlal]
    #18888687 - 09/25/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am in favor of a system in which if you can't afford the health care costs you are refused treatment that way it doesn't come out of my pocket.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18888693 - 09/25/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

so...

a hardworking, blue collard, back breaking, american who has a family of 3 to support becomes ill. he makes just enough to support his family. no extra funds for insurance and the company he works for does not offer a fair plan. 350.00 a month for his entire family. if his wife hadnt passed away a couple years ago, he would have that extra income... now, the sole provider becomes sick and needs immediate treatment.

fuck em right? fuck him and his 3 kids.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18888702 - 09/25/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
I am in favor of a system in which if you can't afford the health care costs you are refused treatment that way it doesn't come out of my pocket.




That is insanely selfish and cruel to your fellow citizens.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Not Responding]
    #18888723 - 09/25/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Not Responding said:
so...

a hardworking, blue collard, back breaking, american who has a family of 3 to support becomes ill. he makes just enough to support his family. no extra funds for insurance and the company he works for does not offer a fair plan. 350.00 a month for his entire family. if his wife hadnt passed away a couple years ago, he would have that extra income... now, the sole provider becomes sick and needs immediate treatment.

fuck em right? fuck him and his 3 kids.



If such a system was implemented costs would likely drop and I am sure discount and semi free clinics would arise in the new competitive environment. Fuck socialists who want to steal my money and tell me how I should feel towards others lol.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18888730 - 09/25/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, okay.

fuck everyone else right. i hope one day you will have to rely on some one else and they tell you to fuck off. let it be money or support.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Not Responding]
    #18888738 - 09/25/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Not Responding said:
yeah, okay.

fuck everyone else right. i hope one day you will have to rely on some one else and they tell you to fuck off. let it be money or support.



I think its funny how you think no private charities or discount hospitals would exist. Fuck socialists who FORCE key word here me to donate money it should be my own free will as an individual fuck collectivism.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18888756 - 09/25/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thats some nice 3rd world country thinking... you would fit in nicely say korea.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Not Responding]
    #18888777 - 09/25/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Not Responding said:
thats some nice 3rd world country thinking... you would fit in nicely say korea.



I have no problem donating to a charity or helping others I do have a problem being forced to by socialist thugs


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18888809 - 09/25/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well then let me tell you. today marks the first day of many. donations are now open and can be sent via CIM. save a life today, save a life tomorrow.

ill pm you with the info. cash only...


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #18889276 - 09/25/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:


It's absurd, these fucking liberal assholes will point the finger at anything except the REAL root of the problem.



You're so right! If only they'd be reasonable to quote the 360,000+ accumulative gun deaths since 9/11 in America, instead of mass shootings.

:seriousbusiness:


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18889338 - 09/25/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
I am in favor of a system in which if you can't afford the health care costs you are refused treatment that way it doesn't come out of my pocket.





lets abolish the police too.

if you arent rich/strong enough to protext your things and your family, then you shouldnt have things or a family.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18889817 - 09/25/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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Gilgamesh18 said:
I am in favor of a system in which if you can't afford the health care costs you are refused treatment that way it doesn't come out of my pocket.





lets abolish the police too.

if you arent rich/strong enough to protext your things and your family, then you shouldnt have things or a family.



There is nothing wrong with a public police force I just want the government out of healthcare. For the most part the police do a fine job and if we had no war on drugs the public sector could save a whole heap of money.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18889827 - 09/25/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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Gilgamesh18 said:
I am in favor of a system in which if you can't afford the health care costs you are refused treatment that way it doesn't come out of my pocket.





lets abolish the police too.

if you arent rich/strong enough to protext your things and your family, then you shouldnt have things or a family.



There is nothing wrong with a public police force I just want the government out of healthcare. For the most part the police do a fine job and if we had no war on drugs the public sector could save a whole heap of money.




What has lead you to that state of mind that government shouldn't touch health care?


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Patlal]
    #18889842 - 09/25/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its not in the constitution for starters the governments role in my opnion should be minimal maintaining infrastructure police and fire services that sort of thing. Anything else should be handled by the private sector since it is much more robust and vigorous than a government could ever be.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18889941 - 09/25/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
Its not in the constitution for starters the governments role in my opnion should be minimal maintaining infrastructure police and fire services that sort of thing. Anything else should be handled by the private sector since it is much more robust and vigorous than a government could ever be.




The role of government evolved throughout the years. The government responsibilities now included the well being of citizens. It's needed cause otherwise it would be a free for all. A 100% free market system would be a breeding ground for sociopaths.

The private sector is indeed more efficient than government, but because they are out there for profit, the cost of healthcare rises. Its well known that the American government pays more per capita than countries who nationalized health care. Plus profiting from sick people is morally shaky.

You Americans should realize one day that citizens of America and the American government are on the same team. I always get the vibe the US citizens see the government as the enemy due to your incredibly inflated sense of freedom and liberty. To a point where I think some people would prefer anarchy than organized society.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Patlal]
    #18889967 - 09/25/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think some people would prefer anarchy than organized society.



those terms aren't mutually exclusive


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: Synthe]
    #18890193 - 09/25/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Synthe said:
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starfire_xes said:


It's absurd, these fucking liberal assholes will point the finger at anything except the REAL root of the problem.



You're so right! If only they'd be reasonable to quote the 360,000+ accumulative gun deaths since 9/11 in America, instead of mass shootings.

:seriousbusiness:





and I'll bet 99.9% are done by criminals.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: joe666]
    #18890208 - 09/25/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Probably poverty areas (we all know what that mean) which means we need to stop hoods and create neighborhoods. If that makes sense.


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: joe666]
    #18890229 - 09/25/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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joe666 said:
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Synthe said:
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starfire_xes said:


It's absurd, these fucking liberal assholes will point the finger at anything except the REAL root of the problem.



You're so right! If only they'd be reasonable to quote the 360,000+ accumulative gun deaths since 9/11 in America, instead of mass shootings.

:seriousbusiness:





and I'll bet 99.9% are done by criminals.



Gun deaths. Not murders. Accidents happen and so do suicides.  But by definition, yeah, 100% of gun murders are committed by criminals. But what makes a criminal?


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Re: The Gun Control Tools Are At It Again.... [Re: dark3st]
    #18890238 - 09/25/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Probably poverty areas (we all know what that mean) which means we need to stop hoods and create neighborhoods. If that makes sense.



Well sure, I guess to an extent. That doesn't mean demolishment, it means we need better schools in poor places and perhaps some law enforcement reform.


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