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Circle K
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Possible cobwebs on my WBS jars...
#18886403 - 09/24/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm worried that instead of glorious mycelium, these pint jars are just cob-webbing over. I'm ever-vigilant watching for discoloration, and we've removed a few WBS jars.
A cardinal sin in cultivation is not PC'ing grains, due to germination of endospores. I boiled my grains, knowing this, and I'm understanding the risks. Can anyone tell me how my jars are looking? I shook them after noc'ing them up with 1CC apiece.
The jars were accidentally left for two days at 104 degrees right after the point of inoculation. A shitty call, I know, but I want to include all the info I can, because while the truth here could suck, I don't want to waste any time. All I see is white with miniscule strands each reaching out, but I can't tell what's what.

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Re: Possible cobwebs on my WBS jars... [Re: Circle K]
#18896951 - 09/27/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks like mycelium to me. I would say get a PC for grains though. If you're going to steam I would stick with PF tek, it takes much longer to steam grains than if you were using a PC.
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Re: Possible cobwebs on my WBS jars... [Re: mushmagic]
#18899726 - 09/27/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're going to have a high contamination rate steaming whole grains. However, that will be in form of bacterial contamination not mold. So what's most concerning is the sort of rings and slime appearing around the grain, I can make out the start of that in at least a couples jars.
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Circle K
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Re: Possible cobwebs on my WBS jars... [Re: Kizzle]
#18907778 - 09/29/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here are my best three:
 The middle one has since gotten even whiter, but one thing's scaring me;
 It doesn't look like burning, but I'm hoping that's what it is, since my ghetto stockpot-steaming procedure sat my jars on top of a bunch of forks. Does anyone know what this is, and if I could just use a fork to comb out all the myc, albeit this brown, frightening blob?
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Re: Possible cobwebs on my WBS jars... [Re: Circle K]
#18907981 - 09/29/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's metabolites, most likely from bacteria on the grains. Be sure to give those a good smell before you use any of those. I don't see any growth unique to mushroom mycelium so if there's mold growing in some of those and or a lot of bacteria you may smell something. Pretty much any odor other than the smell of mushrooms is bad.
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Circle K
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Re: Possible cobwebs on my WBS jars... [Re: Kizzle]
#18908007 - 09/29/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I took her outside today, the jar with the bacteria, and gave her a good smell. Nothing rancid I'd pull my face at, just really earthy. I'm almost tripping naturally, just getting closer and closer looks at all of this mycelium, it's beautiful!
Do you know if WBS jars need to consolidate? Because I'm gonna fruit that one in its own tray, but I wanna make sure I do all of this right. I want to at least get it to be somewhat cake-like, so I can dunk it before I fruit it. I wasn't very mindful when I noc'd up my jars, so this one could either be a Tasmanian or a Hillbilly. Either way, both strains are different to the extent that by the time fruiting ends, I'll know for sure.
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Re: Possible cobwebs on my WBS jars... [Re: Circle K]
#18908067 - 09/29/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Many molds smell earthy. It should smell just like the mushrooms or have no smell.
Grain jars should be used at full colonization. There are some benefits to letting the bulk substrate consolidate some after they've been spawn and have finished colonizing that.
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Circle K
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Re: Possible cobwebs on my WBS jars... [Re: Kizzle]
#18908135 - 09/29/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is there any way, with that picture, that you could give me some pointers on how long to wait?
Right now, we're waiting up until the third, which is when we get our substrate together, at last.
As soon as all of that comes around, we're gonna tray each jar off, because I'm pretty much set on thinking that any one of these jars could be infected, and I don't want to destroy any two of these jars, given there's four or five about to be put into fruiting, and I want to have the sexiest pinset, and the best looking fruits possible.
-------------------- Hold on tight, to your dream! Unless you have shoeboxes, then hold onto those. Head down to the store, buy some butterfly clips, dub tub your jars, forget about them, move to Kensington, buy a boat you only ever keep in your driveway, become a Pinterest administrator, sell dollar store mugs with rhinestones hot glued all over them.
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