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Feds infiltrating the silk road?
    #18885819 - 09/24/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"So far, unfortunately, their system has been somewhat successful," said a federal law enforcement source involved in the investigation into the site. "Our goal is to make sure that doesn't continue to be the case."

Federal charges have yet to be brought against the site or its administrators, but another law enforcement source involved in the Silk Road probe said high-tech investigative methods used by the government are helping investigators build a case.

Those methods include encryption-cracking technology and the exploitation of security weaknesses in some encrypted email and instant message software used by Silk Road customers, the source said.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/sources-dea-probes-silk-road-suspected-online-hub-for-illegal-drugs-1.6120533


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: Ogla]
    #18885828 - 09/24/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My heart skipped a beat after that Child Porn bust. I'm totally against it and have even participated in cyber warfare on CP sites, but a LOT more got taken out and put into gov's hands than child porn when they got those Freedom Hosting servers :tinfoil:

Get yer drugs NOW, eat em soon, and hope that really sketchy dude that used to hook you up hasn't OD'ed yet. :shrug:


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: Ogla]
    #18885831 - 09/24/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They've been trying to nail the silk road for at least 2 years, doesn't mean they are getting anywhere.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: st1llnox]
    #18885836 - 09/24/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

BTW an easy way for them to catch you would be if you use the same account to buy and sell.

I'm afraid SR is going to turn into a Federal honeypot at some point... I'm getting super anxious just typing this.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: fapjack]
    #18885846 - 09/24/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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fapjack said:
They've been trying to nail the silk road for at least 2 years, doesn't mean they are getting anywhere.




took 2 years to bust Farmers Market.  How would you know if they're getting anywhere or not?


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: Ogla]
    #18885856 - 09/24/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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losfreddy said:
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fapjack said:
They've been trying to nail the silk road for at least 2 years, doesn't mean they are getting anywhere.




took 2 years to bust Farmers Market.  How would you know if they're getting anywhere or not?





Success is measured in quantity and severity of busts.

If you were trying to raid and harvest prosecutions from a large op like this, would you at all indicate you're on to them, or would you say that they're still successful but you're still trying?


There have been some really high-level coke dealers that disappeared, and Dread Pirate Roberts, at least as of a couple months ago, is very scarce on the forums.

Aside form that, there've just been some novelty busts like SR dealers who were ALSO selling IRL and got busted through there. Another guy got busted when he was pulled over on his way to mail packages of pills that the officers inspected (wouldn't that be the WORST feeling? Buh bye, freedom...).

And then that cunt that turned her own son in :mad:


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: st1llnox]
    #18885867 - 09/24/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Another knockoff, BTW, (forget the name) that was using facebook to accrue market share got spooked when they started getting successful and bowed out of the game after a half million in sales.

Gave people a week to empty out their BTCs from their site, after which time they were going to be donated to drug-related charities and advocacy organizations.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: Ogla]
    #18885880 - 09/24/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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losfreddy said:
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fapjack said:
They've been trying to nail the silk road for at least 2 years, doesn't mean they are getting anywhere.




took 2 years to bust Farmers Market.  How would you know if they're getting anywhere or not?




The Farmers Market people were using payment other than BTC like western union, most were using BTC I believe on the Farmers Market but from what I understand it was unsecure payment methods that took them down. Not that the Feds are making progress on SR because No one really knows but the Farmers Market was a totally separate ball game than SR.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: st1llnox]
    #18885902 - 09/24/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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There have been some really high-level coke dealers that disappeared, and Dread Pirate Roberts, at least as of a couple months ago, is very scarce on the forums.

Aside form that, there've just been some novelty busts like SR dealers who were ALSO selling IRL and got busted through there. Another guy got busted when he was pulled over on his way to mail packages of pills that the officers inspected (wouldn't that be the WORST feeling? Buh bye, freedom...).

And then that cunt that turned her own son in :mad:




That was like on OVDB, when the main guy went missing, so did the admin.  Admin didnt return till a month later coincidently after everyone discovered the main guy was busted. Coincidence? :tinfoil:


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: lateforthafuture]
    #18885914 - 09/24/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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losfreddy said:
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fapjack said:
They've been trying to nail the silk road for at least 2 years, doesn't mean they are getting anywhere.




took 2 years to bust Farmers Market.  How would you know if they're getting anywhere or not?




The Farmers Market people were using payment other than BTC like western union, most were using BTC I believe on the Farmers Market but from what I understand it was unsecure payment methods that took them down. Not that the Feds are making progress on SR because No one really knows but the Farmers Market was a totally separate ball game than SR.




Farmers Market was busted cause hushmail spilled the beans.  They didnt use western union that long and im sure they werent foolish enough to use their real names when they were taking them.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: Ogla]
    #18885958 - 09/24/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

WU is a pretty easy way to get busted, they can kind of figure out where you live based on $ amounts and the fact you always get money without ID.  They place a few orders, fuck them all up a couple times they can figure out where you will be.  WU is a shitty way to receive money if the feds are involved, they have 50 people waiting in various spots for you, they will catch you.  If everyone was in only major cities it would be a lot harder, but from what I remember reading it wasn't.  Also, if you are giving packages to USPS clerks they can get you even faster, they can probably print the parcels as well.  There are a lot of ways they can nail you, it really depends on how hard they try.  Also, who knows if NSA could break SR.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: fapjack]
    #18885992 - 09/24/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thank God I never went through with using it.

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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #18885999 - 09/24/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

why wouldn't the feds be infiltrating silk road?  tor and bitcoins have been shown to be full of security flaws.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18886011 - 09/24/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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losfreddy said:
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st1llnox said:

There have been some really high-level coke dealers that disappeared, and Dread Pirate Roberts, at least as of a couple months ago, is very scarce on the forums.

Aside form that, there've just been some novelty busts like SR dealers who were ALSO selling IRL and got busted through there. Another guy got busted when he was pulled over on his way to mail packages of pills that the officers inspected (wouldn't that be the WORST feeling? Buh bye, freedom...).

And then that cunt that turned her own son in :mad:




That was like on OVDB, when the main guy went missing, so did the admin.  Admin didnt return till a month later coincidently after everyone discovered the main guy was busted. Coincidence? :tinfoil:





Could have become a honeypot of sorts, where they let everything keep going, gave the guy a deal on his charges to play along, etc. while they wait and collect info and incriminating evidence, orchestrate busts etc.

Or it could be one of the main guys went missing so it scared the other main guys into wanting to lay low until they were sure they weren't gonna get handed over by their bud. :shrug:

You've got to try to control for your own paranoia in these kinds of things.

Still, I've seen cases on here of Shroomerite's IRL friends getting Life for LSD (wish I was trolling :cry:) so you absolutely cannot be too careful.
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They don't go after the bottom rung. They want the guys distroing on up, and they'll be very lenient with you if you refer them on up the line. A friend of mine at college was busted in the military and served a lot of time because he kept his mouth shut but others didn't and he got the full brunt plus a little scapegoating thrown in.
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why wouldn't the feds be infiltrating silk road?  tor and bitcoins have been shown to be full of security flaws.





More like... if they don't understand what they're doing and you get lucky, you can get something somewhere along the line to have them connect to something outside TOR.

Then, look up that IP and bam.

The latest "hole" was actually just a fluke/flaw in the firefox that's bundled with the "TOR" browser. Go Videlia or go... to jail. And update frequently... it's not like TOR Is a crumbling wall. It's elusive and ever-evolving.

That said, when a mail service spills or they seize actual servers...


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18886014 - 09/24/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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why wouldn't the feds be infiltrating silk road?  tor and bitcoins have been shown to be full of security flaws.




Tor and the bitcoin protocol are fairly safe provided proper dark net safety precautions are used. What are these security flaws you speak of?


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: Ogla]
    #18886048 - 09/24/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Feds don't have shit on SR, they're just posting that bullshit to scare people away.

Thread already posted in the news forum.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #18886075 - 09/24/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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why wouldn't the feds be infiltrating silk road?  tor and bitcoins have been shown to be full of security flaws.




Tor and the bitcoin protocol are fairly safe provided proper dark net safety precautions are used. What are these security flaws you speak of?



AFAIK there has not been a single security flaw discovered with Bitcoins.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18886090 - 09/24/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They haven't had any major busts or leads on SR. If they did, they would be doing something about it. You think they aren't pissed as shit that they can't figure it out?

They don't even know what country the creator resides in, let alone his name or where his servers are.

That said, I'd still never use it. :shrug:


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18886106 - 09/24/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

then why are there bitcoin washing services?

edit: also there have been flaws found in the bitcoin washing services.


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Re: Feds infiltrating the silk road? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #18886113 - 09/24/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Feds don't have shit on SR, they're just posting that bullshit to scare people away.

Thread already posted in the news forum.



Same ole fucking scare tactics as usual


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