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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18882741 - 09/23/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

take 2 grams for your next trip and just enjoy the hell out of yourself


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Apeman]
    #18884087 - 09/24/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bad trips are the visual manifestation of our perceptions and subconcious. I don't think drugs are evil. It's like the gun debate, it's not the gun it's the one who's holding it. And unfortunately for us trip heads the right mindset is key to "holding the gun," elsewise you might point it at yourself.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #18884106 - 09/24/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It appears you've been living 2 lives Mr. Anderson ;-)

take the red pill, then there is no fear anymore

yup, the thoughts about psychedelics being evil is a normal thoguht I get when tripping
if you use them you must really ground yourself, just like if you were doing shamanic work probably (they contact spirits too)

one way is not using them for contacting spirits, grounding yourself in nature, living healthily(not doing other drugs/fasting before using them etc), helping others, tripping for the love (not to gain knowledge about the universe, let thoughts go) etc.

then you're less likely to be attacked by spirits I think, they don't like love
they feed on your fear

and they feed on abuse, if you use drugs everyday/have a bad life situation you're more likely to get a bad spirit I think

use psychedelics to embrace life, not escape it like one said here on the boards

spirits are real, but no more likely with psychedelics than any other drug (weed, amphetamines/heroin,...)
they feed on people who try to escape reality, because then you're less grounded/balanced

only trip when you feel ready

don't forget we got the devil within us, thoughts/desires/emotions , you must let all thoughts go, don't be attached to anything (accept death too)

nature+psytrance helps letting go
try this one next trip, and accept death/let go of all thought:
youtube.com/watch?v=lQuH2JPjOiY

mushroom chocolates give good trip each time, since no nausea
3g is usually enough for a good trip for me, sometimes 4g but that is very intense sometimes (can take a year to process)


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18884167 - 09/24/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

how do you know what the afterlife entails?


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Rohto]
    #18884811 - 09/24/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

mio thats pretty cool...

i let guilt eat me up..


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18885376 - 09/24/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i let guilt eat me up..




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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18885527 - 09/24/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)


makes any trip good :wink:

same with a walk in nature/sit in nature in every trip


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
    #18885577 - 09/24/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yep, I think a nice walk in nature would stop the majority of bad trips. The problem is, GETTING there, and comprehending the task of "going somewhere else" when your in a bad trip.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18885642 - 09/24/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You're being delusional and wasting time




I can't stand when people make black and white judgements about what other's have experienced from trips.

Remember that we are all unique and living in our own realities. Our trips too, are unique. There are no absolutes in this world. There are people who believe psychedelics are evil. There are people who believe psychedelics show you God. There are people like me who believe that psychedelics do nothing more than temporarily rewire your brain to think in a different manor.

Take what you will from this comment and the experience.. Only you can integrate it into the real world.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18886920 - 09/24/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I also had some questions as to if any others had come to the conclusin tripping is occultic and evil??? Is this true or just a bad trip.




Of course it's not, that's a common delusion - you just need more practice. :thumbup:

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drugs are a gateway and that other dimensions do exist




True that but you still gotta leave that "good vs evil" shit behind and just step through...

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any of you had any thoughts of sacred geometry and vibrational frequencies and such while meditating or under the influence of psychedelics?any of you had any thoughts of sacred geometry and vibrational frequencies and such while meditating or under the influence of psychedelics?




Yes.  Crystals (usually quartz) might help you out there.  I have an awesome rock that I also use to stay grounded (if I'm inside) during intense trips. :thumbup:

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have a xanax in your pocket..




Trip naked. :Tastesgoodman:

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It appears you've been living 2 lives Mr. Anderson ;-)


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18887150 - 09/24/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well I live my life fairly well. I have my own place and all that, job car gf etc... everyday i just go at my own pace and do my thing. I dont let alot of things get to me. I'm pretty care free.

I don't think it would have anything to do with my intentions. I saved a mosquito from a urinal while taking a piss recently instead of pissing on it and killing it because I believe in karma n all that(stupid exampIe) but I do believe maybe i was eaten up inside because of guilt do to my addictive personality. And your right tripping to gain knowledge of the universe is definately selfish and carries bad intent but such things do fascinate me.

I think I have the intent thing down. I'm a very good hearted person which is almost always courteous to others or at least as much as you can be. I've always been a fairly happy person.

I was smoking excessive amounts of pot recently before this and I'd get drunk on occasion like fully indulging on that with a little coke like once a month or so. I definitely have no interest in abusing things like I had been anymore. I'm definately more aware of my actions and how they effect others directly and indirectly.

Its just the shit got so deep that even thoughts had intentions that carried vibrational frequencies that influenced the world!

Thanks a lot mio and those birds are awesome. And thank you xl caps i overlooked your post very simple and easy explanation. Very strait to the point. Good info from the both of you. I wish I understood this stuff more. My connections ran so deep I screamed and gasped plug me back in for the second time lol with my throat feeling like it was being massaged same with other parts on my body and yea idk that red pill looks deceitful lol.


Thank you all for being there for me. Hopefully I'm not to analytical.  I definately think I may have achieved ego death. Wasn't really going for it but I think I understand what that means now. Dont worry though I seem to be returning to my old self just with a way better outlook on things.

I made many many many connections tho...

Oh yea my ass did get sedated this time. I was force fed xanax lol. I love my friends. I live my life by love. Idk what else I can do. I feel I've always been this way but did allow a lot of negative things in my life that I shouldn't have or wouldn't have if I was aware of it having this effect which once again would make that selfish right?  We all can't be perfect tho its so hard and almost to much of a burden for anyone.

Just one question. I see many others tripping for selfish reasons abusing drugs running around having orgies. Why wouldnt I be aloud but they are lol? Did they just learn how to hold the gun and I don't? Either way I wouldnt want to use that as an excuse to abuse drugs or for other negative purposes.

One of the best realizations was that we can literally will our own reality through positive thinking. Is this true?

Or is all this just me making rationalizations do to my psyche?

Love and fear are the 2 main primitive feelings all other feelings derive from correct?

PS when u said trip naked after quoting have a xanax in your pocket you meant like have no xanax available like no safety net or like literally trip naked cause we do that also lol

I've lightened up on my pot smoking alot and am trying to watch my addictive behavior and just in case the vibes are real to start by making small changes. Nothing really major but just do stuff like buy things at more local family stores and not try to buy things that are supporting stuff like gmos. Not just cause of the foods being bad for you but for what a lot of those companies stand for and are doing to the planet. Think I might get a water purifier to that'll make me happy lol(:

I like the rainbow in your signature pic PS. The day after I saw the biggest one ive ever seen in my life in front of my face I couldn't believe it. It was an amazing thing. I had never seen one so vivid. Can these things really be a window to the spirit world? I don't wanna know or try this because its really not what I'm into. It kinda scares me but I guess I have to put aside that fear as you said and focus on love but seriously 100% I swear to god I was watching mckenna tripping balls and was kinda trying to masturbate and be alon  but my gf kept bothering me by getting up n stuff but she knew wat I was doing. Anyways I swear to fucking god this was later after cause I never finished so I went back to watching mckenna and while I was watching him talk about the dmt elves and the primitive grunts and sounds he heard them make and he was explaining what you felt and how the feeling worked its way up your abdomen and through your esophagaus and then I litterally started vocalizing these weird random sounds and grunts as he was describing them it was almost uncontrollable like i was being controlled by a vibrational frequency. I didn't even start to finish what I was saying before I jumped up and ran into my bedroom and woke up my gf and told her I was having a bad trip. Before the weird shit happened i remember it got orangish and I swear I felt like a portal was about to open or some shit. Stuff really freaked me out. I think I'm gonna have this place smudged. My one friend said to.
Thanks for letting me ramble. I'm not crazy :laugh2:

Lol i love the matrix quotes from you guys lol. Wow man no wonder there's no real studies done on psychs.  Shit gets deep. In the middle of an experience I screamed for a person and for some reason I thought something really really bad was gonna happen to him. Why would something like that happen?

I also had a conclusion that me learning the things I did could be dangerous for me ):


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18888535 - 09/25/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're right about most it but wrong about the morality of psychedelics. The dimensional spirit world bull shit may be or may not be true. It's been believed for generations in the ancient world and they weren't dumb by any means. However it might just be something that could be scientifically proven. Your subconcscious is what gives you this morality to something. It's you that's evil. Possibly. Psychedelics are definitely not evil although they can be used to change dimensions and contact spirits if you're into that scene, I personally am not although I find it interesting.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18888897 - 09/25/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They are emotional amplifiers; gateways to a larger world that modern humans lost for some reason and now vigorously deny exists.  If you go there ya gotta be ready for the fallout and blowback. :thumbup:

@OP:

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tripping to gain knowledge of the universe is definately selfish and carries bad intent but such things do fascinate me.




:freshwtf:  Says who?

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One of the best realizations was that we can literally will our own reality through positive thinking. Is this true?




No, it's just another piece of BS.  You can do the work and change things, but you can't magically get there.

FWIW IME most of the "realizations" are like that, they're just parts of your subconscious clutter bubbling up to the surface where you grab on to them and think they're profound. :lol: Tripping is just like that. :shrug:

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18888962 - 09/25/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks and its cool bro. I think I'm starting to understand what it shows you and I can think of a good reason to deny that world exists. Not acknowledging it allows you too treat people like shit and think you can get away with it. I've never been to bad and honestly believe I'm a good person but I have had my moments. Ill take it for what it is and try to learn from it.

It also doesn't help that I do on occasion take somewhat larger doses due to having an addictive personality. Think I just gave myself a dose of my own medicine lol literally!

Whatever these things are they're definitely not bad. Kinda like medicine for the soul. I'm also gonna try and stop caring wat others think like not be impressionable or have worry. So what you know:shrug:

I was suffering from depression for like 2 years. I can now say i feel somewhat awakened.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18889543 - 09/25/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"One of the best realizations was that we can literally will our own reality through positive thinking. Is this true?"

Yes

How you think affects yourself and everyone around you more than you may think

send positive vibes to everyone around you, love yourself, love others

you meet the people who are like yourself always, or whom there is a reason for you to meet

so if you are outgoing you meet outgoing people
if you are inwards you meet inwards people

it happens automatically, you attract people like yourself

if you use drugs everyday, you meet only people who use drugs everyday
if you meditate everyday, you automatically meet people who meditate

you might meet lots of strangers too who have something to say to you/old people you haven't talked to in many years/get books from people which tell you just what you need to hear :wink:

kinda magic

don't discount any ideas, only those that don't fit your personal experience
it first becomes a realization when it fits your personal experience and you can see it applied to other people too likely, before that it is just a thought

when you think positively you start to get negativity,fear,doubt,frustration out of your mind
suddenly you get rid of all thoughts
then reality starts to unfold, you will never guess what I've noticed the past few years and the many people I've met at once... there are no coincidences

one soul..

thinking positively can change your life, see the good in people and in the world, notice beauty

"less is more" , that is a good realization :-) peace


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
    #18889590 - 09/25/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Man that's deep like hitting the nail right on the head. My one fear was if anyone else understood the power of conscious thinking and using it to will things through vibrational frequencies that they could use it for bad and just for me acknowledging this could potentially put me at risk if there is another side to that coin cause someone might not like me spilling their beans so to speak.

Knowledge is power and if you understood how the universe works I could imagine that'd make you very powerful


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18889780 - 09/25/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I went through a series of what some people would consider "bad trips", but it was all about balancing out my karma. Then came the lesson of accepting death. After going through this things have been amazing and I've been moving into new territory. The bad trips nearly always contain important lessons and when faced they can become good ones in the end.

I still have "scary" ones at times but that's more in the sense of riding a roller coaster for the first time. They are new adventures. That's what this is about, expanding ourselves through new experiences.

You just roll with them, the most important part is to learn and keep moving forward.

And yes, sometimes outlandish paranoid ideas can grip a person and that's where set and setting comes in. I know hot weather tends to lead me in this direction for a couple reasons. In "The Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss" Dennis McKenna recalls a time when he met a couple while camping in Hawaii. All of a sudden after seeing their faces glow in the lantern light he came to the conclusion that they were serial killing sexual predator cannibals who were going to rape and eat him. He went back to his tent and sat there with a machete waiting for them to attack him, which never happened.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: blckmynnse8]
    #18890173 - 09/25/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ok cool. Good to know its just the crazy in me. I hear there's a fine like between genius and insanity :laugh2:


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    #18890220 - 09/25/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And *I* hear that my boner just came up and broke my nose looking at your sig, Anderson. Bastard.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18890255 - 09/25/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My one fear was if anyone else understood the power of conscious thinking and using it to will things through vibrational frequencies that they could use it for bad and just for me acknowledging this could potentially put me at risk if there is another side to that coin cause someone might not like me spilling their beans so to speak.




Sure, you can change yourself and what you send out. And you can utilize the power of the Tao (the Way) to manifest good things in your life as well as utilize what people would call coincidence.  But unless you are really adept you can't just think something and have it happen, not in any reality anybody else would recognize, as that only happens in your imagination. 

There are no beans to spill, all of this is available to anybody who takes the time and trouble to inquire deeply enough.  It's good that you want to to do that, but none of it is a secret. :thumbup:

It's said there are good shamans (wizards), and evil shamans, and there are old shamans, but there are no old, evil shamans.  If you use that energy for ill it will destroy you in the end.  Use it for good and you will be repaid many times over.  Food for thought.

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