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Failed DMT Launch? Use a domeless TI Dabbing nail! * 2
    #18883312 - 09/24/13 01:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Last night at a festival gathering i was in my camp with four campmates.  Two of us (and possibly the third, i cant remember) had never broken through on DMT before.  We had all previously used various devices to get a few proper hits.  It was always a pain in the ass to TRY to take three hits before it comes on.  My friend has an 18 mm Dab Essentials domeless 18 mm nail and a medium sized table top oil rig type bong.  We weighed out about 40 mg of dmt and heated up the nail to red hot all over.  We heated it a bit hotter than we normally do to dab. Before this, however, I had piled the dmt onto a piece of parchment paper.  When the nail is red hot i poured the dmt onto the nail and inhaled deeply.  There was no water in the bong.  The vapor was pretty much tasteless, which was odd.  I took the entire 40 mg in one easy, not harsh hit.  I held it all in for only a few seconds and tried to inhale a little oxygen after inhaling the dmt rip.  I gave the bong to my buddy who was watching over me and laid back on my air mattress.  I entered a divine orgasm on a cellular level that was accompanied by whole body spasms that seemed to be uncontrollable.  While this was going on i was being shown an absolutely radiant display of psychedelic triangle patterns.  they started in a ridiculous yellow color and then ended up being composed over every color i've ever seen.  I had the distinct feeling that these patterns were being projected to me, but from within.  a very strange sensation.  Furthermore, i felt as if there was a sentient entity with it's back turned to me who was displaying these patterns on flash cards at light speed.  How wierd.  When i came to all i could say or think was, "WHAT THE FUCK?! WHAT THE FUCK?!!?! WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!"  My memory of it faded quickly but i really tried to immediately remember what had happened to me.  Then I cried like i had never cried before.  It was fucking amazing! 

Then another campmate (a fellow shroomerite!) did a little higher dose the same way.  He also blasted off to a place he had never been and was thoroughly happy with the results of his experiment with dumping dmt on the nail. 

Then came a third campmate who had never blasted off either.  He hit the pipe the exact same way as described above.  Right before he took his hit he had just woken up from a nap and was really groggy and still laying down.  After he takes the hit he gets up and is all wobbly.  Then he does a perfect backflip.  :lol:

Then another friend wanted to try the dmt.  He had never tried it before, but was experienced with mushrooms and had had several acid trips prior.  He was on a half chocolate of mushies, 100 mg of mdma and had had a beer a few hours earlier.  He did about the same amount as the rest of us in the same way.  But he laid back and started yelling out, "AHHHhhhh AAAAHHHHHHhhhH!!!"  And he started flailing around uncontrollably, like i had.  However,it intensified.  He started kicking the sides of the tent and then began kicking and swinging his fists.  I tried my best to protect him and myself while this was going on. He continued screaming in agony, which would be punctuated by hysterical laughter.  A truly weird sight.  As this progressed and got worse another friend came in the tent and helped me console/comfort my friend.  He laid back on the mattress and it sounded like he was gurgling or something so we put him on his side so he wouldnt choke if he threw up.  Then he sat up again and started laughing.  We thought he was coming out of it.  He wasn't.  He got even more combative after this and eventually made his way out of the tent and into our camp area.  We did our best to continue to protect him, us, and our neighbors tents and possessions.  At one point I pulled him off of our neighbors tent, over to a more open area.  This had been going on for about 15-20 minutes at this point.  Given we were all relatively experienced with DMT, we knew that it is a short acting drug.  However, I was scared as fuck.  Imagine watching your friend burn alive, it was like that, without the fire.  People started coming over from neighboring camps, very concerned.  So, a little after about 20 minutes into this experience I decided to run to the medical tent.  It wasn't far away.  I ran over there and made sure it was a safe place to share this.  It was.  I told them everything that had happened.  Two guys jumped in a cart and we made our way to the camp.  When we got there my buddy was back to baseline and wondering why he woke up in a different place.  He didn't have much memory of the experience, but told me he felt the sensation of falling on top of a parachute.  After this we talked about the experience a bit and he went to bed.  It was one of the scariest things i have ever witnessed.  I really wonder to what extent the dose played in this event.  I KNOW that it at least wouldnt have been as severe if he had had 20 mg, instead of 40.  I wonder if that same thing would happen to me if i took, say 60-70 mg at once. 

Just for the info in reference to my friends 'overdose':


SOOO, this story is to tell you, unequivocally, that dabbing your dmt is the best way i've found to ingest your DMT for a full proof blast off in one, easy hit. 

This is a domeless oil rig bong (in case you didn't know)



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Re: Failed DMT Launch? Use a domeless TI Dabbing nail! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #18883598 - 09/24/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's intense. I was at a fest earlier this summer. And found these dudes dabbing. I asked them to try it cause at that point I never dabbed. And as we wre sitting there dabbing. This dude precedes to tell him that using an oil rig is the only way hell do dmt now


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Re: Failed DMT Launch? Use a domeless TI Dabbing nail! [Re: RR42013]
    #18884089 - 09/24/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you would want to use less heat i would imagine..


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Re: Failed DMT Launch? Use a domeless TI Dabbing nail! [Re: c0exist]
    #18884543 - 09/24/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Should've started him off at 15mg:shrug:


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Re: Failed DMT Launch? Use a domeless TI Dabbing nail! [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #18884638 - 09/24/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

try heating the nail less, TI nails retain heat like a mother fucker. Maybe try heating up a quartz nail since quartz doesnt retain as much heat..

Possibly get a temp gun to read the nail temp and vape at the right time.
At least everyone was OK.


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Re: Failed DMT Launch? Use a domeless TI Dabbing nail! [Re: BIGS]
    #18885939 - 09/24/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was about to make a thread in regards to this as well...see ya beat me to it, though I'll likely make a separate thread somewhat related to this...







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....Then another campmate (a fellow shroomerite!) did a little higher dose the same way.  He also blasted off to a place he had never been and was thoroughly happy with the results of his experiment with dumping dmt on the nail. 






:yesnod:


I most definitely agree that it was by far, by far the most effective method I've used (I've used an oil pipe, dmt between weed in pipe, & dmt in small joints). I will say, this was also the largest amount of DMT I've done in one go (approx 45mg to 55mg), previously my largest dose was around 35mg to 40mg.


I didn't give much thought to it...but the smoke/vapor was indeed very smooth, and didn't have much taste either, and that was with no water in the oil rig (I'd probably continue to do it with out water).


I'm not going to go into the details of my particular experience at the moment...still trying to process it, and I did have a little bit of mdma in my system which I notice makes remembering dmt experiences much more difficult for me. I'll post a short trip report of sorts sometime in the near future.




I was a little rattled when all said an done after your friend's rough experience/flip out with the DMT, but I'm able to remain really calm during things like that. There was nothing we could do, as long as he wasn't causing harm to himself or others, all we could do was let him ride it out, the fact there were tents everywhere didn't help the situation though lol. His experience actually lasted much longer than I suspected it would, I kept thinking "any minute now he'll be back". I figured one may be a bit shaken up after an experience like that, but like you mentioned he didn't have much memory of the experience, which is good I guess.




Anyway...I'm looking forward to experimenting with this method again, and sharing this method with others.







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you would want to use less heat i would imagine..



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try heating the nail less, TI nails retain heat like a mother fucker. Maybe try heating up a quartz nail since quartz doesnt retain as much heat..

Possibly get a temp gun to read the nail temp and vape at the right time.
At least everyone was OK.





I was thinking the same exact thing.

FurrowedBrow, I think I may have brought this up to you at one point. DMT has a relatively low boiling/vaporization temperature, around 160 °C (320 °F) . I have no doubt a portion of the DMT is getting destroyed by the intense heat of the nail...

Obviously this method works very well, but I think it's worth it to experiment a bit with not heating the nail as much.





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Re: Failed DMT Launch? Use a domeless TI Dabbing nail! [Re: openmind]
    #18886452 - 09/24/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, definitely a mistake to give him the same as we took.  That'll never happen again.  Though it shouldn't have happened to begin with. :facepalm:

I actually do have an IR temp gun that i will use to experiment with the nail.  I am looking forward to that. I'll post the results here at a later date.  but it's going to be some time, as i don't plan on doing this stuff too often.  thanks for sharing that additional info OM.


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Re: Failed DMT Launch? Use a domeless TI Dabbing nail! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #28302161 - 05/01/23 12:19 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Quote:

FurrowedBrow said:
Last night at a festival gathering i was in my camp with four campmates.  Two of us (and possibly the third, i cant remember) had never broken through on DMT before.  We had all previously used various devices to get a few proper hits.  It was always a pain in the ass to TRY to take three hits before it comes on.  My friend has an 18 mm Dab Essentials domeless 18 mm nail and a medium sized table top oil rig type bong.  We weighed out about 40 mg of dmt and heated up the nail to red hot all over.  We heated it a bit hotter than we normally do to dab. Before this, however, I had piled the dmt onto a piece of parchment paper.  When the nail is red hot i poured the dmt onto the nail and inhaled deeply.  There was no water in the bong.  The vapor was pretty much tasteless, which was odd.  I took the entire 40 mg in one easy, not harsh hit.  I held it all in for only a few seconds and tried to inhale a little oxygen after inhaling the dmt rip.  I gave the bong to my buddy who was watching over me and laid back on my air mattress.  I entered a divine orgasm on a cellular level that was accompanied by whole body spasms that seemed to be uncontrollable.  While this was going on i was being shown an absolutely radiant display of psychedelic triangle patterns.  they started in a ridiculous yellow color and then ended up being composed over every color i've ever seen.  I had the distinct feeling that these patterns were being projected to me, but from within.  a very strange sensation.  Furthermore, i felt as if there was a sentient entity with it's back turned to me who was displaying these patterns on flash cards at light speed.  How wierd.  When i came to all i could say or think was, "WHAT THE FUCK?! WHAT THE FUCK?!!?! WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!"  My memory of it faded quickly but i really tried to immediately remember what had happened to me.  Then I cried like i had never cried before.  It was fucking amazing! 

Then another campmate (a fellow shroomerite!) did a little higher dose the same way.  He also blasted off to a place he had never been and was thoroughly happy with the results of his experiment with dumping dmt on the nail. 

Then came a third campmate who had never blasted off either.  He hit the pipe the exact same way as described above.  Right before he took his hit he had just woken up from a nap and was really groggy and still laying down.  After he takes the hit he gets up and is all wobbly.  Then he does a perfect backflip.  :lol:

Then another friend wanted to try the dmt.  He had never tried it before, but was experienced with mushrooms and had had several acid trips prior.  He was on a half chocolate of mushies, 100 mg of mdma and had had a beer a few hours earlier.  He did about the same amount as the rest of us in the same way.  But he laid back and started yelling out, "AHHHhhhh AAAAHHHHHHhhhH!!!"  And he started flailing around uncontrollably, like i had.  However,it intensified.  He started kicking the sides of the tent and then began kicking and swinging his fists.  I tried my best to protect him and myself while this was going on. He continued screaming in agony, which would be punctuated by hysterical laughter.  A truly weird sight.  As this progressed and got worse another friend came in the tent and helped me console/comfort my friend.  He laid back on the mattress and it sounded like he was gurgling or something so we put him on his side so he wouldnt choke if he threw up.  Then he sat up again and started laughing.  We thought he was coming out of it.  He wasn't.  He got even more combative after this and eventually made his way out of the tent and into our camp area.  We did our best to continue to protect him, us, and our neighbors tents and possessions.  At one point I pulled him off of our neighbors tent, over to a more open area.  This had been going on for about 15-20 minutes at this point.  Given we were all relatively experienced with DMT, we knew that it is a short acting drug.  However, I was scared as fuck.  Imagine watching your friend burn alive, it was like that, without the fire.  People started coming over from neighboring camps, very concerned.  So, a little after about 20 minutes into this experience I decided to run to the medical tent.  It wasn't far away.  I ran over there and made sure it was a safe place to share this.  It was.  I told them everything that had happened.  Two guys jumped in a cart and we made our way to the camp.  When we got there my buddy was back to baseline and wondering why he woke up in a different place.  He didn't have much memory of the experience, but told me he felt the sensation of falling on top of a parachute.  After this we talked about the experience a bit and he went to bed.  It was one of the scariest things i have ever witnessed.  I really wonder to what extent the dose played in this event.  I KNOW that it at least wouldnt have been as severe if he had had 20 mg, instead of 40.  I wonder if that same thing would happen to me if i took, say 60-70 mg at once. 

Just for the info in reference to my friends 'overdose':


SOOO, this story is to tell you, unequivocally, that dabbing your dmt is the best way i've found to ingest your DMT for a full proof blast off in one, easy hit. 

This is a domeless oil rig bong (in case you didn't know)






Thanks for your info, could you share some links to buy what is needed? I'm new in these and don't really know what do I need to get my tryp, with a crystal pipe is very difficult for me. Can you share some pintures off all needed parts as well?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Failed DMT Launch? Use a domeless TI Dabbing nail! [Re: Zeus971] * 1
    #28302209 - 05/01/23 01:04 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Zeus971 said:
Thanks for your info, could you share some links to buy what is needed? I'm new in these and don't really know what do I need to get my tryp, with a crystal pipe is very difficult for me. Can you share some pintures off all needed parts as well?

Thanks in advance.





this thread is 9 years old. I doubt that it answers your question today :facepalm3:


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