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OfflineSupaThaRipper
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printing clones?
    #18883111 - 09/24/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Im trying to grasp a better understanding of clones and spores. So from what I understand, you can only clone so many times before there is just nothing left in a mushrooms genetic makeup... right? So what I have always done is kept a master spore print to go back to when ive cloned enough. What im wondering though is if I can clone and then print from a clone and then ms... etc etc and so on forever....

Basically like this MS<clone<ms<clone<ms<clone<etc
so I wouldnt always have to keep a backup print on hand..
Will the genetic makeup break down overtime... or will printing in-between each clone erase the family line..

Its hard to put what im thinking into words
I just dont want to set myslef up to eventually growing pathetic little nothings and having to buy new spores..


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Re: printing clones? [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #18883118 - 09/24/13 12:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You don't need to keep a master spore print.  If you want more prints just take new prints.

Edit: I guess I should make myself more clear.  If you print a strain that has lost certain characteristics, it is possible to breed those characteristics out.  This is how strains are domesticated.  Eventually genetics can degrade, which is why B+ is sometimes called "Bunk +" by some people.  This does take a long time, and usually isn't something that is worried about.


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Re: printing clones? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18883196 - 09/24/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So its definitely ok to print clones. Thanks for clearing that up:)


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Re: printing clones? [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #18883842 - 09/24/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes but once you print a clone, it is no longer a clone. Your genetics are once again a crap shoot.

There are arguments that printing>clone>printing>clone etc can be used to "domesticate" a sub strain but given that you're basically trying to force evolution, I wouldn't count on any quantifiable results.


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Re: printing clones? [Re: maddchef]
    #18914579 - 10/01/13 04:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks guys :smile:


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Re: printing clones? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18914681 - 10/01/13 05:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
This is how strains are domesticated.




Don't listen to hype. 

Wild prints will perform as well indoors as the ones being sold by vendors.  I've never heard of or seen a wild cube 'domesticated' despite constant blathering by those selling the prints as they seek self glorification.
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Re: printing clones? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18914770 - 10/01/13 06:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The Shroomery should have a huge sign on the front page saying something like:
"Welcome, enjoy, but remember; You don't grow casings, and "strain" doesn't matter".

Would've made everything so much easier, took me months to figure out what the *blank*
people were talking about uncased casings, bottom casings of bulk sub material and whatnot.


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Re: printing clones? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18914776 - 10/01/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
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Mush4Brains said:
This is how strains are domesticated.




Don't listen to hype. 

Wild prints will perform as well indoors as the ones being sold by vendors.  I've never heard of or seen a wild cube 'domesticated' despite constant blathering by those selling the prints as they seek self glorification.
RR





Wow I had no idea, I thought the same thing.
Thanks for the info :smile:


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