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heylowery
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Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS
#18882392 - 09/23/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I birthed, dunked, and rolled my cakes on 9/19 and placed them in my SGFC on a bed of wet perlite. It's been 4 days and the only difference I have seen in the cakes is they are getting whiter...not sure if this is mycelium or cobweb mold or some sort of bacteria... I am getting a little worried about these guys. I had to birth a little on the early side due to a metabolite scare. Thinking about dumping them and starting fresh--what do you all think? There IS a little mushroom head pinning on one of the cakes, very small (last pic) but that's it 



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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: heylowery]
#18882435 - 09/23/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Give it more time look good to me
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heylowery
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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: mushbecrazy]
#18886663 - 09/24/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would it be bad to take the cakes out and add more perlite at this point? I have about 3 inches in the tub but my humidity level isn't high enough. How can I add perlite? Thanks
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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: heylowery]
#18887378 - 09/24/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have the answers you need. I am on flush two right now. I had the same issues you are experiencing. Follow steps below.
1. Cut the foil you have your cakes on. You want as little surface area as possible for the cakes to sit on. More surface area equals more water build up and more possible contams to slow your growth.
2.your cakes will be slower to fruit due to birthing them sooner than ideal. Time and patience is key here. The white build up you speak of is aerial myc building.. not that bad of a thing. Make sure when you mist that its a light mist and then vigorous fan. I can't stress this enough. Do not make your cakes "wet" looking. Only make them sparkly looking at best.
3. Ensure no fan is on in the room.. I.e. no additional air movement other than the a/c vent in the room. Reason for this is the sgfc will not work with too much air flow in the room that a fan would produce.
4. You can pick your cakes up and add more perlite or re soak any time you feel necessary. . The cakes will not be contam prone at this stage because they are fully colonized. Dont be afraid to pick them up (gently) and look underneath them for pins or growth signs. A lot of mine did a ton of growing underneath the cakes.. at one point I toom them all out and as well as all the perlite and re soaked it (the perlite). Re placed in the sgfc and had no issues.
5. My first flush took 7 days to show first signs and then an additional 5 to get my first mushie..
Your shit looks good.. do not throw them out.. I repeat.. do not throw them out!
Regards, BBH
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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: heylowery]
#18887387 - 09/24/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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And your hygrometer is worthless.. get perlite to 5 inches and you will be good. That cheap POS will never read accurately.
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BBH224



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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: BBH224]
#18887397 - 09/24/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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And your holes on the sgfc look small.. how did you produce these?
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azur
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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: BBH224]
#18887402 - 09/24/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haven't done cakes in over a decade, except for a tiny sample one recently. They look fine to me. And to answer your question, can snakes be born with two heads? Anything is always possible. Stay patient
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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: heylowery]
#18887417 - 09/24/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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looks fine. i would give it a week or two at least. if your cake were contaminated you would be able to tell (bad smell, discoloration, slimy texture)
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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: BBH224]
#18887745 - 09/25/13 03:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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BBH224 said: I have the answers you need. I am on flush two right now. I had the same issues you are experiencing. Follow steps below.
1. Cut the foil you have your cakes on. You want as little surface area as possible for the cakes to sit on. More surface area equals more water build up and more possible contams to slow your growth.
2.your cakes will be slower to fruit due to birthing them sooner than ideal. Time and patience is key here. The white build up you speak of is aerial myc building.. not that bad of a thing. Make sure when you mist that its a light mist and then vigorous fan. I can't stress this enough. Do not make your cakes "wet" looking. Only make them sparkly looking at best.
3. Ensure no fan is on in the room.. I.e. no additional air movement other than the a/c vent in the room. Reason for this is the sgfc will not work with too much air flow in the room that a fan would produce.
4. You can pick your cakes up and add more perlite or re soak any time you feel necessary. . The cakes will not be contam prone at this stage because they are fully colonized. Dont be afraid to pick them up (gently) and look underneath them for pins or growth signs. A lot of mine did a ton of growing underneath the cakes.. at one point I toom them all out and as well as all the perlite and re soaked it (the perlite). Re placed in the sgfc and had no issues.
5. My first flush took 7 days to show first signs and then an additional 5 to get my first mushie..
Your shit looks good.. do not throw them out.. I repeat.. do not throw them out!
Regards, BBH
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I have had cakes contaminated before. Usually it was late after 3 flush's and they couldn't fight it off.
OP I want to say that you might have a bacterial contamination on one of those cakes. If that crystal/bubble stuff starts to ooze out of the cake its probably contaminated from some bacteria inside the cake.
Or if could just be a poor resolution picture, sometime the myc will look like that in the light. More pictures are needed.
After second look, maybe it is just myc and you need more FAE>
I really can't tell, but we will wait and see. Good luck man.
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heylowery
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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: BBH224]
#18900907 - 09/27/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hell yeah! You are all awesome. Thanks for the advice.
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BBH224 said: I have the answers you need. I am on flush two right now. I had the same issues you are experiencing. Follow steps below.
1. Cut the foil you have your cakes on. You want as little surface area as possible for the cakes to sit on. More surface area equals more water build up and more possible contams to slow your growth.
2.your cakes will be slower to fruit due to birthing them sooner than ideal. Time and patience is key here. The white build up you speak of is aerial myc building.. not that bad of a thing. Make sure when you mist that its a light mist and then vigorous fan. I can't stress this enough. Do not make your cakes "wet" looking. Only make them sparkly looking at best.
3. Ensure no fan is on in the room.. I.e. no additional air movement other than the a/c vent in the room. Reason for this is the sgfc will not work with too much air flow in the room that a fan would produce.
4. You can pick your cakes up and add more perlite or re soak any time you feel necessary. . The cakes will not be contam prone at this stage because they are fully colonized. Dont be afraid to pick them up (gently) and look underneath them for pins or growth signs. A lot of mine did a ton of growing underneath the cakes.. at one point I toom them all out and as well as all the perlite and re soaked it (the perlite). Re placed in the sgfc and had no issues.
5. My first flush took 7 days to show first signs and then an additional 5 to get my first mushie..
Your shit looks good.. do not throw them out.. I repeat.. do not throw them out!
Regards, BBH
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You nailed it on the head brotha! I didn't end up adding any more perlite. Apparently all it took was patience (I know I know, rookies mistake). I did some research on the strain (Thai Pink Buffalo) and they typically take a little longer to pin than others. But here's an update for anyone interested:
Taken on 9/26 AM:



Taken on 9/27 PM:




Some pinning:

I'm a little worried about this one (note the splitting stem turning green):
 Closer look:

Setup:
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heylowery
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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: BBH224]
#18900921 - 09/27/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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BBH224 said: And your holes on the sgfc look small.. how did you produce these?
I drilled them, with a drill, and a drill bit God knows how big, it was the only one I could find at the time;......I'm a female lol I suppose I could've done a better job though.
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BBH224



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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: heylowery]
#18901111 - 09/27/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If it ain't broke don't fix it.. looking great!
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KatuXiK


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Re: Is it possible to get contaminations while fruiting? PICS [Re: BBH224]
#18901142 - 09/27/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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To me that blueish/greenish stuff looks like bruising to me, but I haven't seen shrooms in person before so take it with a grain of salt. And I would think if it was rotting it wouldn't grow, but I'm not sure. Hopefully someone can confirm or deny that.
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