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phir3
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petrochemicals and oysters
#18882110 - 09/23/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok, i tried fishing for info in the advanced section here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18852306 but seemingly failed. have a read and see what you think.
the question i put to you is broad: has anyone tried putting a little bit of oil/fuel into a grow of oysters?
if yes, what were your quantities (subs, culture and type of oyster), teks used, observations, results and ideas for future experiments? failures are pretty important.
i'd like this thread to stay open(if it's not too much to ask) and people can add as they see fit. i'm down for discussion, pm me, but i would like this thread to remain dedicated for accurate recording of data.
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Ace1928
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Re: petrochemicals and oysters [Re: phir3]
#18882124 - 09/23/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What type of oil/fuel? Any? All? Combinations of types?
Im most likely going to give this a go in coming weeks. If the thread is open ill swing my results up here.
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Re: petrochemicals and oysters [Re: Ace1928]
#18882152 - 09/23/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lemme just quote this from your other thread since it answers most of your questions. I bolded the part that really seals the deal for you.
From http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18852306
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RogerRabbit:
It's irrelevant. The substrate would ideally need to be the oil-contaminated media that you're trying to clean up. The problem is that motor oil or diesel isn't food for oyster mushrooms or any other species for that matter. They might slowly metabolize it, but other methods work better despite what you'll read in MR.
I don't speak from inexperience. I've administered several conservation grants for myco-based remediation of septic bacteria for which mushrooms are far better suited than oil. Oyster mushrooms and straw are also great for stabilizing disturbed hillsides, holding them together until vegetation can establish. RR
Edited by Jimmyhunter1000 (09/23/13 08:31 PM)
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phir3
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@ace: whatever fuels and subs you want, just quantify @jimmy: i take heed to science and images. call me skeptical but i don't trust peoples opinions blindly simply because we're all different, act differently and think differently.
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Jimmyhunter1000
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Re: petrochemicals and oysters [Re: phir3]
#18882239 - 09/23/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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RR isn't one to just throw around random bullshit when it comes to Cultivation. I'd really listen since he's the last person who would lead someone astray in Mycology.
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phir3
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i don't think he talks bullshit and i don't think he'd intentionally lead anyone astray. i just want data.
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liamtheloser
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Re: petrochemicals and oysters [Re: phir3]
#18882769 - 09/23/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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How do you plan on measuring the amount of fuel that has been removed from the substrate? How will you compensate for loss due to evaporation?
I don't think many people besides RR have done something like this.
I think the best way for you to find out the results would be to come up with a method to measure the residual oil in a spent block, and then try it out. Oysters are easy enough to cultivate, and motor oil can be purchased very easily.
I say motor oil because it probably won't evaporate as quickly as fuel.
One way you could maybe accomplish this would be like this:
Make up a substrate with 1kg sawdust 1kg straw 100 grams of gypsum 100 grams of oil, add 1kg water and pressure cook. Then add your 100 grams of spawn and wait patiently. As oysters are harvested, record their wet weight and after all flushes are through, weigh the leftover block of mycelium and substrate. Then dehydrate the substrate and weigh it again. Somewhere in there is the math to figure out how much oil it left? I don't know, I'm not a biologist, so I don't really know the process. But it sounds to me, like you're trying to get opinions from people who agree with you, but not from people who disagree. In those situations it's better to devise your own plan for truth instead of relying on anonymous Internet people who could be pulling your leg, or jerking you around facetiously.
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phir3
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thanks man. i wasn't after opinions so much as peoples experiences. i don't mind people disagreeing with me if there's something to be gained from it but i'm not into debating. i admit i'm not used to people disagreeing so vehemently when i wasn't making a statement, I SWEAR I'M JUST CURIOUS!, i was a bit confused at first and still am.
so if there's anyone else that might want to compare data on this subject then this thread is where...
Edited by phir3 (09/25/13 11:35 PM)
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Re: petrochemicals and oysters [Re: phir3]
#18893089 - 09/26/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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@ liamthelooser i think that wouldn't work because a part of the carbon fixated in the oil and straw will be released as CO2 during dissimilation.
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