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    #18881266 - 09/23/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I am going to use this method for extracting LSA from some HBWR seeds I just got.

It mentions adding a garlic clove as well, because "it completely eliminates nausea and vomiting, this works because the sulphur in garlic eliminates all cyanogenic glycosides within the seed matter. These are the cause of discomfort not the LSA itself. "

Is that true? Or would ginger work better? I just want a few confirmations before I actually do the process.

EDIT: What about using MOUTHWASH prior to sub lingual method? Would it help with absorbing it with my mouth? lol


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881390 - 09/23/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've never seen a citation for that information. morninggloryseed on bluelight.ru and opiumpoppies.org is someone who's done a lot of reading and experimenting with morning glory seeds. He states the following:


I have for three years though been searching for journal citations that show that any of the psychedelic varieties contain them.

If you can find one, please show me. I have been searching and searching.



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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: s240779]
    #18881530 - 09/23/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well, here's one...


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881549 - 09/23/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Where's the citation? By citation I mean a reference to a professional analysis. Actual proof. Obviously...


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: s240779]
    #18881585 - 09/23/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"Note: the fuzzy coating on the outside contains cyanogenic glycosides
which can make you really sick if you eat enough (same kind of stuff in
apple seeds)."

Okay HERE'S the citation. It's at the bottom. There's not a ton of info on this stuff, Erowid is probably as professional as it gets lol.


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881612 - 09/23/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That is not a professional source of information. It is just some guy's post in a news group (old fashioned message board). Some of what he says is cited, but the comment about cyanogenic glycosides is not.


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: s240779]
    #18881638 - 09/23/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What's your opinion on mouthwash and the absorption of LSA?


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881644 - 09/23/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't know what you're talking about.


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: s240779]
    #18881670 - 09/23/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, I'll try my best to fill you in.

I have read online at many sources that using mouthwash prior to quidding salvia leaves help with the absorption rate of the salvia. SO I was WONDERING, would it be a good combo for the absorption of LSA via the sublingual method?


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881715 - 09/23/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've heard from users with experience using mouthwash before hand does aid in absorption.


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881722 - 09/23/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Can't comment. As long as you filter all the solid bits, ingesting the end product isn't an issue. I recently dehydrated a cold water extraction in a food dehydrator. Scraped it up and stuffed it into capsules. This is to hide the taste. You're using Hawaiin baby woodrose, however, which is very concentrated, so it can be ingested in liquid form while still hiding the taste, from what I gather (i.e. mixing in a glass of juice).


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: s240779]
    #18881732 - 09/23/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MrMagicMushroom said:
I've heard from users with experience using mouthwash before hand does aid in absorption.




Thanks for the input.

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Da2ra said:
Can't comment. As long as you filter all the solid bits, ingesting the end product isn't an issue.




I have been referring to the sublingual method. Not ingesting them. :facepalm:


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881743 - 09/23/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I'm telling you that you don't have to be married to the sublingual method.


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: s240779]
    #18881788 - 09/23/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not married to anything. But this is the method that is best for not getting nausea and cramps. You are not being very helpful.

I will be trying more than one technique, but I am trying to verify some stuff first before I try them out for myself.


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881880 - 09/23/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have yet to try sublingual, but I'm definitely trying it next. Than I'm also planning on doing an alchol extraction afterwards. I planted like 20 plants of combined heavenly blue/pearly gates, so I'll have plenty of seeds to spare.


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
    #18881913 - 09/23/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm... I thought LSA is highly soluble in water, so that's why cold water extraction works better?


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881951 - 09/23/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It is, but I'm doing the alcohol extraction than letting the alcohol evaporate so I'm left with an extract that i can capsule up and avoid the taste


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
    #18881954 - 09/23/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Does this method stop you from getting nausea?


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18881967 - 09/23/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Of you de fatten it with a non polar solvent,yes. And  gets rid of most of the negative body load.


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Re: LSA Extraction [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
    #18882244 - 09/23/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Eh, I don't wanna do all this crazy stuff involving naptha or anything. I just wanted a simple, easy extraction. I can already get the real 'cid anyways, so this is mainly just for... testing it out. I'll just be doing regular ol' simple trials with the 50 seeds I have. Probably gonna try sublingual, then cold water extraction, and then maybe an alcohol extraction if I can get my hands on any.


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