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Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended?
    #18880055 - 09/23/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

As from 2014 I intend to eliminate all mind altering substances (coffee/tobacco/alcohol and occasional MDMA/filthy charlie) from my lifestyle and focus on mushrooms when in need of a journey out of the mundane.

I am going to start by micro dosing, and I will need to experiment to find the sweet spot. For this month-long experiment I would rather not be feeling any of its effects, and will lower the dose if I do ( probably sticking to approx. 0.1g dry). The reason for this is that I’m very interested in the experiments being done in this field, and hope I can contribute in some way. I also think I have always suffered from some form of sub-clinical depression and my experiments with L-Tyrosine lead me to believe I may have a dopamine deficiency. It will be interesting to see if micro dosing has any effect on my mood. After a month of this I will most probably stop unless some very positive results are experienced.

After this I would like to start increasing the dose slowly maybe .1 or .2 every month (doing this probably once or twice a month) so that by  end of the year I am doing 1 to 1.5 g, and if all is going well confidently moving up the levels over the years.  My interest here is to really familiarize myself with the experience with the aim of eventually (if possible) “mastering” these journeys. I have no interest in throwing myself into a roller coaster.... or at least not yet. I have done that in my younger years and 12 hr acid mind-loops are something I’d rather not return to. I’ve had some incredible psychedelic experiences, as well as some terrifying ones, and I would now rather tread this path more humbly.

Could an experienced tripper please tell me if this approach makes any sense? Will frequent dosing familiarize me with that state enabling me to journey more confidently? I think I have mostly used alcohol to help reduce social anxiety and stimulate conversation, so I am also hoping that low doses mushrooms may be able to replace alcohol in these situations.

I have heard that low doses can cause anxiety without enough propulsion to break through the anxiety, or have the ego let go... but could regular use develop the skills to let go of the anxiety while still in safe waters... I know this may sound over cautious and lame, but I cant smoke pot as it makes me paranoid, and i had a tendency to get paranoid on acid, so I'd like to work on these tendencies before delving further

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended? [Re: PsilocybinCaviinae]
    #18880078 - 09/23/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yes, that is a great way to approach it. I have enjoyed low dosing


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Re: Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18880897 - 09/23/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on which experience you want familiarize yourself with - that of low dosing or the full blown face ripping world shredding psychedelic trip.  I will sometimes use small doses just to remind myself a bit of what I'm missing when I'm working and don't have time for the regular ritual...

FWIW microdosing does squat for my bipolar depressive phases, as opposed to regular doses, which reset it to the mania phase. 
YMMV.

FWIW2 you will likely find you're unable to stick to a slow progression like that - especially if you've never done shrooms before - you'll likely love them to death right away and look forward intensely to the trips... :thumbup:

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PS weed made me paranoid as hell, one of the good reasons to lose it entirely.  Shrooms are a different world altogether.


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Re: Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18880965 - 09/23/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Is it even possible to feel anything at .1g? Microdosing for me is around .5-1g.  It's a different aim though, around that level it feels more like weed to me with mood improvement.  Also, you're going to run into tolerance problems most likely. I think recommended microdosing is once every three days?


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Re: Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18881132 - 09/23/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I guess the aim is to familiarize myself with all levels... but starting slow and moving up. I somehow intuitively feel that this is a somewhat sensible but naive approach, as once you hit the higher levels nothings going to keep you from having a white knuckle ride. I read somewhere that Terrence Mckenna somewhere said something along the lines of ' if you don't feel you've taken too much, you probably haven't taken enough' so I guess freaking out just comes with the territory.

In the past 15 years I've probably done shrooms about 5 times. Twice caps in the uk, twice shakes in Thailand but what really left an impression was when an irish fella in a festival, looking pretty much like a leprechaun, sold me several punnets of what he called 'mexican mushrooms' they were fresh and large and gave me the most incredible mind-altered experience of my life. The most amazing thing was that the next day I felt better than I would have felt had I not taken anything at all.. for days afterwards in fact. The whole experience was cleaner, and more real and reflecting back on all the crap I've put into my system, this seems to be the only path worth pursuing.

I haven't been able to resist a little munch on the occasional first fruits.. was a little one of about 2g... definitely felt it and thought steady on boy ... don't be greedy! :smile:

Haven't touched weed for years and think it had been the catalyst for all bad trips ... but very glad to hear the weed paranoia doesn't necessarily mean shroom paranoia

thanks for the feedback!


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Re: Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18881200 - 09/23/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
yes, that is a great way to approach it. I have enjoyed low dosing



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Re: Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended? [Re: PsilocybinCaviinae]
    #18881210 - 09/23/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Even at around 4.5g I haven't had a white knuckled ride.  The key is just staying calm and having calming music on hand.  One of these days I'll get around to the heroic dose I want to try when I have a couple days off work...if you don't think you're ready for the trip, don't eat em! I always have the right set and setting and have never had a bad trip.  Just my 2 cents.


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Re: Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18881236 - 09/23/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Even at around 4g I haven't had a white knuckled ride.  The key is just staying calm and having calming music on hand.  One of these days I'll get around to the heroic dose I want to try when I have a couple days off work...if you don't think you're ready for the trip, don't eat em! I always have the right set and setting and have never had a bad trip.  Just my 2 cents.



A wise 2 cents ... To be honest, no i don't feel i'm ready for them at the moment, which is why I've put it of till 2014. Eliminating all other psychoactives, yoga, and a healthy lifestyle are all intended strategies to get to that space where i do feel ready ... though if that doesn't come, then I may have to convince myself otherwise, buckle up, and go with it :crazy:


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Re: Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended? [Re: PsilocybinCaviinae]
    #18881360 - 09/23/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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they were fresh and large and gave me the most incredible mind-altered experience of my life. The most amazing thing was that the next day I felt better than I would have felt had I not taken anything at all.. for days afterwards in fact. The whole experience was cleaner, and more real and reflecting back on all the crap I've put into my system, this seems to be the only path worth pursuing.




Yeah, that's why I said you'll love 'em to death.  Clean highs, no hangover, and an afterglow that lasts.  Impossible to beat, IME. :thumbup:

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Re: Frequent low dosing to familiarize oneself with the experience.. is it recommended? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18881486 - 09/23/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree that heroic doses are the ones that will change you forever, and you will remember a heroic dose for the rest of your life.

But you do feel the 'trip stress,' on low doses too, at least I do. In fact, low doses might be the best way to learn to cope with the uncomfortable feelings you might get, because on high doses you're so detached from reality you can't feel as much stress.

Once you get past a certain amount, somewhere around 5 grams for me, you're too high to hang on to feelings of doubt and stress.


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