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What to do with my WBS
    #18881411 - 09/23/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hi all. So, I've currently got kinda a small amount of colonized WBS... It's 2 quart jars, and 3 half pint jars. I've also got Vermiculite, 3 bricks of eco-growth coir (the ones for reptiles), gypsum, and coffee. What would be the best course of action that would get me the best results for fruiting?

I was planning on doing something like a monotub using half a brick of coir but now im thinking i might not have enough? Or maybe i should just use a smaller tub than what other bulk growers use?

Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks! :smile:


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: jackalope9517]
    #18881473 - 09/23/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Id spawn that to half a bricks worth of pasteurized coir and verm.  You can still do a full sized tub.  2 inch substrate depth is acceptable for cubes


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18881517 - 09/23/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Or just do a full sized tub with 4" of substrate and use all your colonized WBS.  Paul Stamets writes that 1 to 10 is enough spawn to bulk ratio for growing mushrooms. You can follow this tek: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=11916595&fpart=&PHPSESSID= using the spawn that you have on hand. Assuming everything has colonized to 100% and you are contam free it will just take longer than normal to colonize and fruit.


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #18881664 - 09/23/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the help guys. What I think i might do is use Damion5050's Coir Tek except only half of what he shows, or maybe only a little more.

Also would it be alright to add a bit of coffee and gypsum to his tek? Not any measure in particular, but just a tad bit of each. I read something earlier about coffee getting the ph to what it should be for bulk grows.. though maybe im wrong.


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: jackalope9517]
    #18881677 - 09/23/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Coffee does not work in damions tek.  Gypsum does.  Also doing only half a brick doesnt work as well cause it loses heat faster.


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18881688 - 09/23/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Coffee does not work in damions tek.  Gypsum does.  Also doing only half a brick doesnt work as well cause it loses heat faster.




Hmm.. So i can do a full brick but it will just take longer to colonize completely?


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18881708 - 09/23/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A primary purpose of adding coffee grounds in bulk substrates is increase nitrogen content of the substrate, especially in substrates that are naturally low in nitrogen (coir is one of those). Brewed (liquid) coffee also provides a nitrogen source and is sometimes used for hydration of substrates, etc. As far as pH: Brewed coffee liquid has a low pH (acidic) while gypsum has a high pH (basic). So ime adding both liquid coffee and gypsum will do ???? to the pH of the substrate. - my 2 pennies.


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: Bilge]
    #18881766 - 09/23/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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A primary purpose of adding coffee grounds in bulk substrates is increase nitrogen content of the substrate, especially in substrates that are naturally low in nitrogen (coir is one of those). Brewed (liquid) coffee also provides a nitrogen source and is sometimes used for hydration of substrates, etc. As far as pH: Brewed coffee liquid has a low pH (acidic) while gypsum has a high pH (basic). So ime adding both liquid coffee and gypsum will do ???? to the pH of the substrate. - my 2 pennies.



Ah well what I did was use Frank's tek: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17252080#17252080 and put coffee and gypsum with the WBS when preparing. So i guess i don't have to add either of those anymore, huh?


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: jackalope9517]
    #18882071 - 09/23/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Ah well what I did was use Frank's tek: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17252080#17252080 and put coffee and gypsum with the WBS when preparing. So i guess i don't have to add either of those anymore, huh?




Coffee used in your grain soak is not the same as grounds in your substrate.

I recommend against the grounds in the substrate. They contam very easily and are not worth the risk.

Gypsum does not affect pH directly, it is a pH buffer that helps prevent swings in pH while the mycelium is digesting the substrate.

So you would want to add a small handful of gypsum to your half brick of coir :thumbup:


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18882212 - 09/23/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And you can make a whole brick.  Do the tek as described in the 50/50 but just use a smaller tote and you will have left over coir/verm which is no big deal because the stuff is so cheap.  Who cares if you don't use it all.  Check out the tub in my sig.  The tub in the pic is a small tub.  It is about half the size of your standard tub.


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #18882503 - 09/23/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ahh ok.. now i feel smarter and i think i know what im gonna do! :laugh:

Btw Frank, you are one of my heroes. I don't mean just from this post but other posts of yours. What i want to do is make a bumper sticker with your name on it and with little hearts around it and then my life will be complete.

WillyWonka you are also one of my new favorites. Bro i love you man i would give you such a big hug then punch you cause we gotta do something manly

ok.. i have a confession to make.. i have recently consumed certain drugs! and.. what i usually do is not be on any forums im registered to cause sometimes i get a little crazy haha :P so im gonna log off now. thx all!

oh hell you know what guys? one thing i've realized about people and shrooms is that they just kinda do them for the heck of it cause they're bored... see i never understood that. i find that shrooms should be used to gain some certain knowledge that only a trip can show and that sort of thing. ya know? you gotta just.. respect nature and what it tries to give to you!

ok im done.. peace!


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: jackalope9517]
    #18882550 - 09/23/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Btw Frank, you are one of my heroes. I don't mean just from this post but other posts of yours. What i want to do is make a bumper sticker with your name on it and with little hearts around it and then my life will be complete.





:smilingpuppy:

If I made you that bumper sticker and sent you one, would you put it on your car and take a picture of it and send it to me? :hehehe:

Hope you have a fun night :vibin:


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18882866 - 09/23/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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jackalope9517 said:
Btw Frank, you are one of my heroes. I don't mean just from this post but other posts of yours. What i want to do is make a bumper sticker with your name on it and with little hearts around it and then my life will be complete.





:smilingpuppy:

If I made you that bumper sticker and sent you one, would you put it on your car and take a picture of it and send it to me? :hehehe:

Hope you have a fun night :vibin:



Absolutely. But make sure the bumper sticker is well enough made so that i can keep it there hehe :wink:


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: jackalope9517]
    #18882988 - 09/23/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah frank is pretty awesome but I'm afraid if I drive around with an I love frank bumper sticker people might start to think gay thoughts :lol:


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: Stromrider]
    #18883015 - 09/23/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'll make sure it is appropriately manly for you, psilly.


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18883251 - 09/24/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sure thing frank :thumbup: I'll be waiting by the mailbox


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Re: What to do with my WBS [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18884699 - 09/24/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well I myself am bisexual so I really wouldn't care how manly or not it is.

I will await the delivery!


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