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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: fuzzysig]
    #20856685 - 11/18/14 04:06 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

IT IS PLACEBO


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: xFrockx]
    #20858574 - 11/19/14 12:01 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

i don't surround myself with gadgetry. i try to make it simple. i just have a smartphone and desktop that's enough to do everything i need
i ve tried probably over 50 different products and herbs by now

and low dose shrooms and 5-htp finally give me the desired results that i was looking for.

i just don't know how is the best way to combine them together with the least sideffecs short and long term.


and no its definitely not placebo.

i get different effects from different supplements and herbs etc. i have cans and boxes of al kind of different sht already accumulated from my trials


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: fuzzysig]
    #20859818 - 11/19/14 11:14 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Try caffeine or coffee with the addition of L-theanine.
according to this study it improves alterness and  focus.
From my experience it gives that high energy effect , but without being jittery.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21040626


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: jayfoxpox]
    #20863162 - 11/19/14 11:18 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Im jittery from coffee and cant focus for shit.
been drinking coffee for like 10 years now every day


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: fuzzysig]
    #20863389 - 11/20/14 12:30 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

which is why I mentioned to add L-theanine...


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: jayfoxpox]
    #20863427 - 11/20/14 12:45 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

jayfoxpox said:
which is why I mentioned to add L-theanine...




How do you add it? Just measure out a dose and stir in?


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #20864050 - 11/20/14 06:14 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure if this was said but pure Omega 3, large dose. It works better than you would expect.


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: Ashura]
    #20864590 - 11/20/14 09:18 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

did you say the omega 13?



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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #20864615 - 11/20/14 09:24 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Quote:

jayfoxpox said:
which is why I mentioned to add L-theanine...




How do you add it? Just measure out a dose and stir in?





Just take it on the side, it's sweet tasting.  I really don't notice anything when I take it.  YMMV


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: Icelander]
    #20867170 - 11/20/14 06:44 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks man, can't say I've ever felt much from supplements either, aside of what helps me perform in the gym (creatine FTW).

I do love strong coffee though, so if it has some harmony with caffeine, I reckon it's worth a shot.


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #20867569 - 11/20/14 07:52 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Creatine actually works.  I've used it for years effectively.


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: Icelander]
    #20867881 - 11/20/14 08:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

What have you used creatine for most Ice?

On the subject of things that actually work, what other supplements would you say actually work?


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #20868186 - 11/20/14 10:01 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

body building.  I can't think of much else that works dramatically for all people like creatine does.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: Icelander]
    #20885300 - 11/24/14 07:15 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

so is it normal for psylocibin to have such a massive effect on me even in micro doses?

I was literally in a fog all day because my mind is overwhelmed with things that needs done. I had some tea and everything just organized itself and im not freaking out anymore... im calm and have a plan.

is that normal? Its definitely not a placebo. I can feel the effects. if I take less I don't feel anything at all.

I am squeezing every bit of magic out of these microdoses tho.


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: fuzzysig]
    #20885880 - 11/24/14 08:55 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Just because there are mild effects doesn't mean the benefits aren't placebo.


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: xFrockx]
    #20945448 - 12/07/14 11:45 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

they are not mild. i know what placebo is and this is not placebo.
placebo only works when you don't know about it.


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: fuzzysig] * 1
    #20945774 - 12/08/14 02:55 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Adderall XR will help you focus and make you very sociable throughout the day. If you want to improve your concentration naturally, I suggest doing meditation everyday after work, school or an activity. Eating healthier and exercising could also contribute improved concentration.

Over smoking ganja could leave you fried most of the days so I consider to slow it down a bit. The clouds in your mind needs time to clear away.


Edited by KIN (12/08/14 02:56 AM)


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: KIN]
    #20947776 - 12/08/14 02:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I don't smoke weed. I was only smoking for a few months like once a week for experiment to see what it does.
in the end I decided it doesn't do shit but makes it worse.

psilocybin on the other hand has very good effect
I haven't tried any prescription or over the counter meds yet im more scared of them than "illegal drugs" I hear more people suffering from "legal drugs" than from" illegal drugs.
except meth of course lol


does Adderall make you jittery like coffee ?
I tried few supplements like focus factor and im very sensitive to something that makes me very zombie like I cant figure out what it is yet. possibly caffeine


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: fuzzysig]
    #20948149 - 12/08/14 04:13 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

fuzzysig said:
I don't smoke weed. I was only smoking for a few months like once a week for experiment to see what it does.
in the end I decided it doesn't do shit but makes it worse.

psilocybin on the other hand has very good effect
I haven't tried any prescription or over the counter meds yet im more scared of them than "illegal drugs" I hear more people suffering from "legal drugs" than from" illegal drugs.
except meth of course lol


does Adderall make you jittery like coffee ?
I tried few supplements like focus factor and im very sensitive to something that makes me very zombie like I cant figure out what it is yet. possibly caffeine




No, Adderall isn't like coffee. If anything, Adderall makes you way more alert than hyper. It's like a very calm sense of alertness. Which is why most college students take it prior to taking essays, doing homework and even giving speeches.

By the way, Psilocybin gives you that great effect because it makes your brain over process a lot of information than it needs to, giving you that wandering state of mind.

Anyways, back on topic, Adderall is prescribed to those who have ADHD / ADD. I'll say that it wouldn't hurt you giving it a try, but I highly recommend you to go see a doctor about your difficulties focusing.

By the way, what stimulant/depressant is giving you that zombie like feeling? Just curious.


Edited by KIN (12/08/14 04:14 PM)


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Re: mild drugs to help focus? [Re: fuzzysig]
    #20953194 - 12/09/14 03:17 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

"placebo only works when you don't know about it."

Not actually true. Self-deception works even without taking anything.

Oh and:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/placebos-work-even-when-you-know-10-12-23/


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