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generalsherman55
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super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm
#18878029 - 09/22/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys.
So, i got a toooon of chicken of the woods and i would very much like to grow it on a maple tree on my property. BUT. i do not have any method of cloning it or growing the mycelium on pegs and the like. i dont have petri dishes or agar or a still air box or anything of that awesome stuff that i intend to get down the line, but currently have no means of attaining.
I have been collecting my chicken of the wood scraps, bruised pieces, parts where there is still wood from the tree, and putting them into a paper bag.
Is there any way i can use these scraps to get the chicken of the woods to grow on my maple tree?
I would love to hear some thoughts.
EDIT: tried it with oysters
got this method to work for my oysters! tossed all the lil bits under some leaves under a tree in my backyard. fed the scraps coffee grounds and filters. buried with more leaves. buried with woodchips. watered when it was too sunny. left it alone when it was raining. had a bunch of oysters fruit.
very cool stuff!
Edited by generalsherman55 (03/12/14 01:10 PM)
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SuperFly
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: generalsherman55]
#18878164 - 09/22/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cardboard tek may work. My phone is about to die, I will try and find a link for you in a couple mins when I get back to the house.
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: generalsherman55]
#18878165 - 09/22/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey , happy chicken season ! I found a really nice rack in the woods the other day... it's nice to spot a mushroom from 200 paces in the forest.
You could take the butt-stem material and get it going on cardboard, but you could also just get it going on some kind of sawdust or doweling(cut into one inch lengths).
Maybe you could try a bit of each to see which one works best for you.
Just soak the sawdust / dowels for a bit and then drain. You can either PC sterilize them in a jar or pasteurize them , whichever you choose.
Then scrape back a bit of the butt piece of the stem with a clean spoon and scoop a few bits of the inner core into each jar of sawdust/dowels. Shake it around. Let it colonize at room temperature.
Then you drill holes in the stump/tree. Fill the holes with the colonized dowels or sawdust tightly. If you want to , you can cap the end with wax to help it from drying out, but not 100% necessary.
With the plug-spawn it shouldn't take long to get the Chicken growing.
Good luck.
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: generalsherman55]
#18878177 - 09/22/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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man I dunno about that--- isn't the schicken like some wierd looking shelf fungi? As far as I know you're supposed to just clip the outer 5cm or so of each "shelf" and cook that. But the litterature says it causes stomach upsets so 
I have found a ton of it this year already--- and I bet you can produce a liquid culture if you have a decent sterile technique, and thereby transfer the liquid culture onto whatever spawn you desire. but the "sulfur shelf" mushroom likes wood and forest detritus---- forest humus if you will allow, so it might behove you make several experiments and come to your own conclusions then either write a dissertation for college credit or make a myco-blog to help further the species by educating humanity?
have you noticed that it grows on dead or dying trees-- not living trees? if it is growing on living trees then they will be soon dead or dying. So if you have a maple tree in your yard--- best to let it live.
if you want to cultivate wood loving edible fungi--- go out and collect fallen tree debris and chip it into a pile, then inocculate that pile with the sulphur shelf (chicken of the woods)
unless of course you meant to say "HEN of the woods" because that's different
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: travelleler]
#18878207 - 09/22/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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hen of the woods
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generalsherman55
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: SuperFly]
#18878273 - 09/22/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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TheMrMACdaddy said: Cardboard tek may work. My phone is about to die, I will try and find a link for you in a couple mins when I get back to the house.
thanks!
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generalsherman55
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: InTheBiggun]
#18878281 - 09/22/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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InTheBiggun said: Hey , happy chicken season ! I found a really nice rack in the woods the other day... it's nice to spot a mushroom from 200 paces in the forest.
You could take the butt-stem material and get it going on cardboard, but you could also just get it going on some kind of sawdust or doweling(cut into one inch lengths).
Maybe you could try a bit of each to see which one works best for you.
Just soak the sawdust / dowels for a bit and then drain. You can either PC sterilize them in a jar or pasteurize them , whichever you choose.
Then scrape back a bit of the butt piece of the stem with a clean spoon and scoop a few bits of the inner core into each jar of sawdust/dowels. Shake it around. Let it colonize at room temperature.
Then you drill holes in the stump/tree. Fill the holes with the colonized dowels or sawdust tightly. If you want to , you can cap the end with wax to help it from drying out, but not 100% necessary.
With the plug-spawn it shouldn't take long to get the Chicken growing.
Good luck.
i dont have a pressure cooker. how might i pasteurize them?
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: generalsherman55]
#18878333 - 09/22/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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generalsherman55 said:
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InTheBiggun said: Hey , happy chicken season ! I found a really nice rack in the woods the other day... it's nice to spot a mushroom from 200 paces in the forest.
You could take the butt-stem material and get it going on cardboard, but you could also just get it going on some kind of sawdust or doweling(cut into one inch lengths).
Maybe you could try a bit of each to see which one works best for you.
Just soak the sawdust / dowels for a bit and then drain. You can either PC sterilize them in a jar or pasteurize them , whichever you choose.
Then scrape back a bit of the butt piece of the stem with a clean spoon and scoop a few bits of the inner core into each jar of sawdust/dowels. Shake it around. Let it colonize at room temperature.
Then you drill holes in the stump/tree. Fill the holes with the colonized dowels or sawdust tightly. If you want to , you can cap the end with wax to help it from drying out, but not 100% necessary.
With the plug-spawn it shouldn't take long to get the Chicken growing.
Good luck.
i dont have a pressure cooker. how might i pasteurize them?
The chicken is one o the most illusive mushrooms to culivate in captivity. Almost impossible to fruit even on inoculated logs and stumps.
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generalsherman55
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: travelleler]
#18878336 - 09/22/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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travelleler said:

man I dunno about that--- isn't the schicken like some wierd looking shelf fungi? As far as I know you're supposed to just clip the outer 5cm or so of each "shelf" and cook that. But the litterature says it causes stomach upsets so 
I have found a ton of it this year already--- and I bet you can produce a liquid culture if you have a decent sterile technique, and thereby transfer the liquid culture onto whatever spawn you desire. but the "sulfur shelf" mushroom likes wood and forest detritus---- forest humus if you will allow, so it might behove you make several experiments and come to your own conclusions then either write a dissertation for college credit or make a myco-blog to help further the species by educating humanity?
have you noticed that it grows on dead or dying trees-- not living trees? if it is growing on living trees then they will be soon dead or dying. So if you have a maple tree in your yard--- best to let it live.
if you want to cultivate wood loving edible fungi--- go out and collect fallen tree debris and chip it into a pile, then inocculate that pile with the sulphur shelf (chicken of the woods)
unless of course you meant to say "HEN of the woods" because that's different
i took way more than just the ends of the fruiting body. i took the whole shelf really. and yeah it is parasitic and will eventually kill the maple tree. but hey free mushrooms forever!
and no, it is not hen of the woods, but chicken of the woods
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generalsherman55
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: Amanita virosa]
#18878339 - 09/22/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanita virosa said:
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generalsherman55 said:
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InTheBiggun said: Hey , happy chicken season ! I found a really nice rack in the woods the other day... it's nice to spot a mushroom from 200 paces in the forest.
You could take the butt-stem material and get it going on cardboard, but you could also just get it going on some kind of sawdust or doweling(cut into one inch lengths).
Maybe you could try a bit of each to see which one works best for you.
Just soak the sawdust / dowels for a bit and then drain. You can either PC sterilize them in a jar or pasteurize them , whichever you choose.
Then scrape back a bit of the butt piece of the stem with a clean spoon and scoop a few bits of the inner core into each jar of sawdust/dowels. Shake it around. Let it colonize at room temperature.
Then you drill holes in the stump/tree. Fill the holes with the colonized dowels or sawdust tightly. If you want to , you can cap the end with wax to help it from drying out, but not 100% necessary.
With the plug-spawn it shouldn't take long to get the Chicken growing.
Good luck.
i dont have a pressure cooker. how might i pasteurize them?
The chicken is one o the most illusive mushrooms to culivate in captivity. Almost impossible to fruit even on inoculated logs and stumps.
snap! that is indeed a pretty big problem...
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: generalsherman55]
#18878424 - 09/22/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2821770#2821770 Here is a link of someone explaining the cardboard tek. Sucks that it is almost impossible to fruit, but I figured I would follow up on my word and get the tek for you. Good luck if you attempt it!
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generalsherman55
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Re: super low tech no budget cultivation brainstorm [Re: generalsherman55]
#19685677 - 03/12/14 12:42 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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got this method to work for my oysters! tossed all the lil bits under some leaves under a tree in my backyard. fed the scraps coffee grounds and filters. buried with more leaves. buried with woodchips. watered when it was too sunny. left it alone when it was raining. had a bunch of oysters fruit.
very cool stuff!
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