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Offlinevts1134
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read
    #18877 - 05/30/00 07:56 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Camel could you go into more detail on "illegal posts". What kind of statments are you going to be editing or watching for?


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18878 - 05/30/00 10:56 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

If I were crazy enough to grow shrooms. I am sure that MY common sense would reign over stupid activity. I guess a name like DrDank might arouse some suspision(sp?) as well. But some people do get a little cocky, so it isn't a totally useless post.

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Offlinecamel
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18879 - 05/30/00 02:36 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Also it's not a bad idea to make your posts that may skim across you doing illegal activities by making the post timeless and personless, much like "I once had a dream about growing Ps. Cubensis..." or "I was walking in my town yesterday and this is what was written on it: I need help casing my jars because...".

Please keep your posts legal, I'm going to be stressing this more and more of late and will ask people to edit their posts if they converse about illegal activities (within the US which is where our server lies) or I may close the thread or even delete the post alltogether.

peace
camel



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OfflinePotRoast
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18881 - 05/30/00 08:45 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Grow magic mushrooms?....not me, no fucking way!


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18882 - 05/30/00 09:29 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

uh. yeah. by 'recommending' that dumb shit. now all the 'feds' know what people do. and do you think they are dumb? just becuz you speak like that dont mean shit. they arent clueless


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18883 - 05/30/00 09:54 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

For tekniq;

alright you think you're so bright because you discovered that the authoraties are reading this. OF COURSE they are genius. but it's not illegal to use discretion - which people dont take advantage of. and it doesn't matter, the basic laws of the US say that you need probable cause to even arrest someone.. and using discretion will help tremendously from keeping them getting probable cause on you. Think about it, if the FBI is reading some posting that says that "I grew some shrooms then me and my friends took it and tripped balls with some pot" they will go after YOU because you directly point the illegal activities to YOURSELF. If you say it like "The shrooms grew then tripped balls off it with weed" then who do you think they go after first, even if they go after you that is, it's just freedom of speech, it doesnt contain anything that says you're guilty. Use your head, there's no way anyone can disagree with this posting.


DrDank



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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18884 - 05/30/00 11:06 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks MM for allowing me to demostrate what will happen to posters of illegal nature (in US since that is where the server is) on this board. Either immediate editing or deleting of the post, or you will be asked to edit it yourself. THANKS :smile:

peace

[This message has been edited by camel (edited May 31, 2000).]



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Offlinebillthecat
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18885 - 05/31/00 12:58 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

MasTerMeTh,
you are my hero! :wink:
doing illegal things is fun...


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18886 - 05/31/00 01:55 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

send me some of those pics mm.


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OfflineAjent Orange
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18887 - 05/31/00 02:17 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

you can say you grow shrooms all you want, growing shrooms is not illegal. the minute you say you grow MAGIC mushrooms, or psilocybes, or whatever then you say you are doing something illegal. people admit to growing illegal substances all the time on this bbs, but we know and the feds know that we are not drug lords, and we do this only for our enjoyment. this is why the moderators close any topic that says anything about selling. now i don't grow magic mushrooms myself but i do know not to stick my head in the crosshairs.

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Offlinecamel
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18888 - 05/31/00 05:03 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

In your posts please do not make any comments that remotely suggest that you are participating in illegal activities. Calling them "shrooms" can be taken as slang term for "psilocybian mushroom" and thus will be considered illegal.

Make your posts quite apparent that you are not growing mushrooms by saying things such as:

"I picked up a piece of paper that had this on it: 'I need help with my pf-cakes does anybody know if blah blah blah...'"

or

"I had a dream once that I was growing magic mushrooms and the casing looked dry. If I have a similar dream in the future what should i do?"

That's what I mean by "keeping it legal"

peace
camel



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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18889 - 05/31/00 05:37 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

wow my head hurts why is the site called the shroomery if "shroom" isnt dorogatory for higer class fungi but ONLY psilocybin containing mushrooms. not tryin to flam just add. plus nam one of yall is that hard to find. if the feds want you they'll come knockin. thats why they'll remember the day when that ak hits em. j/k i have no plans of assult on a leo.


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18890 - 05/31/00 05:49 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

damn im tarted not even retarted just tarted. you didnt say only you said could be taken as. i appoligize


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18891 - 05/31/00 06:20 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

This is exactly why I don't grow shrooms. My friend grows them, I guess I shouldn't have spoken in 1st person in the past. I've never cultivated any illegal substances. If some cop wants to knock down my door from these posts, fine. Their gonna buy me a new expensive door :smile:


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18892 - 05/31/00 11:37 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Damn MTMTH I wish I could fast forward you
into maturity.....

:frown:
sad....



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Offlineyounger now
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18893 - 05/31/00 01:48 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

I'm 6'4" and have a body like Arnold in his prime. If you believe that I've got a bridge to sell you.

Just because you say something on the net OR in real life dosen't make it true. After coming here for long enough, I've learned enough to cultivate (even though I don't) or answer a lot of questions newbies ask. I do wonder however, if answering questions could be taken the wrong way by law enforcement. Just because I find this site interesting doesn't mean I'm breaking the law does it?

BTW, did I mention that the Arnold I'm refering to is Arnold Ziffle, the pig from Green Acres?



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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18894 - 05/31/00 03:23 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

MasTerMeTh - Thank You! My sentiments couldn't have been expressed any better.



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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18895 - 05/31/00 04:59 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

{quoting camel}

In your posts please do not make any comments that remotely suggest that you are participating in illegal activities. Calling them "shrooms" can be taken as slang term for "psilocybian mushroom" and thus will be considered illegal.

camel, do you know the name if this site? It's called shroomery. And it's about psilocybe mushrooms.


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18896 - 05/31/00 06:22 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Mastermeth, you are cool. heh.


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Offlinecamel
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18897 - 05/31/00 11:30 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Planet_PHL: The Shroomery's purpose is to spread truthfull and flawless information about magic mushrooms while abiding by all US laws. Admitting to partaking in illegal activities jeopardizes the possibility to keep these forums since there is no telling what big brother can do if he so chooses.

I'm looking out for you, I'm looking out for these forums, I'm looking out for everyone. One can never be too cautious, and to those of you who DO partake in illegal activities (ie: growing mushrooms) please go about talking on the forums in the ways I stated above.

peace
camel



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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18898 - 05/31/00 11:39 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

uhh... and you call this 'not illegal' activity? talking about growing hallucinagenic mushrooms and 'how to grow them', i wouldn't call it 'super legal', but whatever, who gives a fuck. i dont even care this topic is fucking gay just shutup and post something that pertains to mushroom cultivation.


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Invisibleneverwhere
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18899 - 06/01/00 12:35 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

um, actually, this topic ISN"T gay. it's very important because cultivation IS illegal. it may seem stupid to code your posts, because it's obvious what you are talking about anyway, but if you understand anything about the law, you'd know that saving your own ass is essential. what do you think disclaimers are all about??? saving your ass, correct???? tek, you can bitch all you want that we are ridiculous and paranoid, but YOU will be somebody else's bitch in jail when you get too cocky.
this definately pertains to growing mushrooms...havent you been paying attention to what is being said? please dont tell camel how to run things...as a moderator I think he knows more about the running of the shroomery than you do....

its ok to have a webpage called the SHROOMery by the way.....first amendment rights :wink:



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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18900 - 06/01/00 12:57 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

I'm officailly disgusted.I'm so sick of the drug war it makes me want to vomit just thinking about it.................(sarcastically) "can i please be one of the Good ol' US of A's fucking lab rats??? yea!yea! let's all listen to what big brother tells us we should do because if we protest there could be consequences." FUCK THAT! land of the free MY ASS! i really hope that no one else here becomes a casuality of this countrys' lovely and "just" justice system.... but honestly if WE (AND DAMMIT I MEAN EVERYONE! you know you get fucked up occasionally and it sure as hell isn't just alcohol...) don't speak out again this persecution then WHO WILL? why the hell should ANYONE tolerate laws that create the biggest black market seen since the dawn of time? you wan't to save your ass??? THEN SPEAK OUT.


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18901 - 06/01/00 02:12 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

For everyone bitching about how all this doesnt matter or such. You should stick your head up into the far reaches of your colon. Camel and everyone else are just looking out for each other. We are all a group of people interested in the wonderful world of mycology! WE ARE BRETHEREN! so I give thanks and my respect to all those who give a shit about me and all of us.
Thankyou!

IcYKLe



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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18902 - 06/01/00 02:47 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

neverwhere---

PFFFFFFFTTTTT.... ok this post is for all the feds, come bust me im waiting, i have 10 pounds growing in my attic, bulk is cool. neverwhere, you're clueless. and YES i do know about law, been there done that, lawyers are neato. i'll let you know when i get busted, never. COME FUCKING FIND ME. just becuz i post under a 'identity' named tekniq, does not mean they will 'link' it to me, just because they've logged my ip don't mean shit either, that's the fun in proxy servers. see you later kid.

suck muh big moby.



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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18903 - 06/01/00 03:30 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

There is absolutly no proof that anyone of you used your computer to make the post.
So what if they have your ISP and name.. that doesn't prove somebody else is not using your computer to make the post.
And because you posted you grew mushrooms doesn't mean shit... that is not enough evidence to valid a search warrent,
you could be some punk bragging. Do you really think any law enforcement agaency can aford the embarrestment if there wrong ... they go bust down somebodies doors because some kid was bragging he has 10 pounds of shrooms when really he was living at his parents house and doesnt have shit.

Post all you want... your posts are not admissions of guilt and can not be used againts you. Let them even try and prove it was acutally you that posted them. As long as you dont admit to shit, they they dont have shit on you in this case.

-peace-



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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18904 - 06/01/00 03:58 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Right on Ryche hawk, im on your side, most of the people on here are a little bit on the "uninformed" side of the internet, security, and business law, there are certain things that can be done, but going on web boards looking for growers is not one, they have no time, nor proof, nor anything, they have no legal right to base anything on a post on a web board, perhaps a few of you kids on here should read up a little bit. bye bye.


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18905 - 06/01/00 04:01 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

By the way Ryche Hawk, did you notice your posts reached number 1134, you turn that upside down on a normal calculator or in 'non computer terms' and you get 'hell' , i'd knock on wood.


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Offlinecamel
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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18906 - 06/01/00 07:01 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

I don't recall mentioning obtaining a search warrant by mentioning something on the net. I'm simply saying that admitting to illegal activities is a no-no especially when you don't know who reads the boards or emails you and checks your ip or talks to you in the chat etc. They can't get a search warrant for that, but you better believe that they can "keep an eye on you" and the minute you slip they'll take that opportunity to tear you and your place apart.

peace
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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18907 - 06/01/00 10:28 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

The only people disagreeing with my argument are those who are too confident that the authorities wont have even the slightest reasons to believe that you might be growing illegal substances if you just put up postings here.

And I?ll admit, you?re right.

But let me tell you something about the FBI, they have A: loads of time, and B: have loads of money.

If the feds can tap your lines, they can track your e-mail and online activities. I?m not trying to say that you?ll be automatically caught if you put up a few posting, but your criminal suspicion climbs with every posting you put, especially if you refer to yourself in it.

But some people put 100?s or 1000?s of posting and will never have any problems with the police.

If you want to live life free of troubles with the authorities, the only way is to keep clear of sites like these. And I doubt that anyone who has visited this place isn?t even the least bit curious to take drugs.

But no one here wants that, and no one wants to be charged with a crime either. So what do you do?

You wouldn?t go around town in a car with a loudspeaker saying you take illegal drugs. Then why do it here.

Think about it, the internet is just like a huge city. Instead of homes, you have IP addresses. Instead of locks, you have proxy settings. Instead of cars, you have ISP?s. And the FBI can trace any address, bust open any lock, and run a plate on any car to find out who you really are. No one here is bad ass enough to conceal these things over the net. All you can do is use your right of discretion to protect these things.

But they still probably wont go after you if you post that you are involved in illegal activities ? they wont waste their time with small timers like that. But if you are caught using or distributing, you are no longer a small timer, you become a FELON. You then go to court, and your sentence is given to you. You are slapped down with a criminal record.

And lets face it, nothing orgasms cops more than busting criminals. Because of this, they will suspect you are growing mushrooms, or doing something no good, but they cant go after you just for words. But they WILL use anything they can against you in court, as your Miranda rights go, ?anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law?

When in court, the FBI would collect all the evidence they can from the crime scene as well as any outside source. This is all they do ? investigate and bust. If you constantly access this site using the same IP address, from the same residence, it adds up.

Honestly, if you disagree with mine or camel?s argument, you?re either na?ve, or uneducated, or both. In other honesty, the chances are you wont get caught. So, do what you have to do. If you want to act like a total jackass and put shit up here that will help you get arrested, go ahead. You can?t change everyone. But have no illusions, the authorities can track your every movement, from mail orders, credit card charges, medical records, trips to other countries, education, and, of course, online doings. Just be smart.

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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18908 - 06/01/00 02:31 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

ok, let me speak my peace. I've had no problems in the past speaking in first person about my mushroom cultivation adventures. Why all of a sudden are we so worried about this?
Yes, I grew mushrooms.
No, I dont anymore.
Camel, your welcome to edit it if you feel like it.

vivid



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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18909 - 06/01/00 05:54 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Paranoia will destroy ya.


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18910 - 06/01/00 06:14 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

DrDank- I am now dumber for having listened to you. You wasted all that time on that post, the feds will never catch me because im skilled in the computer field. I don't care what you say about 'ISP's or the FBI, you still are quite clueless, this entire post is ridiculous, but i guess for the cluebags you must 'be careful', i will continue to post in first person, i.e. 'I AM GROWING FUCKING SHROOMS', and we'll just wait till i get busted, i'll be waiting bro.



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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18911 - 06/01/00 07:33 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

tek....why so angry? dank is only trying to help. I think you are both right in a way. he is just advising to use caution because he cares about the shroomerites. as for being untouchable, I'm sorry, but NO ONE is untouchable. you are skilled in computers....big fucking deal, lots of people are skilled. what, do you really think you can sway the feds???? i know ppl who have gotten busted before...not through the shroomery, but drug busts CAB happen to small timers. you may never get busted. most likely not....but is it too much of a hassle to be ambiguous in postings?
anyway, i just wanted to say thanks to dank and camel for their concerns...there is no need to get mad at them, IMHO :smile:


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18912 - 06/01/00 08:23 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

grow wat? i grow flowers but thats it.


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18913 - 06/01/00 11:52 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

shit,unseen not worried.i use an email address under false name and info to recieve the password.i go here on a public computer only.i got too much at stake.


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Anonymous

Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18914 - 06/02/00 12:02 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

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[This message has been edited by ilovetoejobs (edited June 02, 2000).]



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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18915 - 06/02/00 12:30 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

I just got to reading it now, but this was a very informative post for me, thanks Dank, thanks Camel.


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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18916 - 06/02/00 04:57 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

it is a waste of time and energy trying to reason with morons.
but thx for trying, camel.


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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18917 - 06/04/00 06:48 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, hip... I do my best.

peace
camel



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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18918 - 06/04/00 07:06 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

damn. i must say that this is the most hostility i've ever seen in the cultivation forum. i just have a couple more things to say. you don't even need to say something like "i cased 4 pf cakes in damp vermiculite, how much should i mist the casings" instead you could just cut the entire first part out and just ask "how much should i mist a damp vermiculite casing". without all of the extra info it's perfectly ok. but obviously people feel the need to share their success and rejoice by sharing it with their friends on the shroomery. that itself won't get you busted, but it won't help our situation with the law or your's.

late

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Re: USE DISCRETION! everyone should read [Re: vts1134]
    #18919 - 06/04/00 12:48 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

just trying to look out for people, hate reading about people getting burned. peace, love and 420 to all.

DrDank



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