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Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!)
    #18876145 - 09/22/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hello again!

I made a post earlier today requesting identification, but the shroomies were proven inactive.  I found more in a different area, and I have a good feeling about these ones. Lemme know what you think!

Habitat: On mah lawn.  It was fertilized earlier in the year.

Gills: Dark brown, maybe with a tint of purple.

Stem: Brown and fairly thick.

Cap: Brown in the center transitioning to a lighter brown.  Some caps are just all dark brown. The diameter is roughly 2 inches for each one.

Spore print color: Doing them now!  Just impatient...Sorry!

Bruising: None that I can see. (yet)

Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

PICS!!  (exposure compensation was a little too high, so everything is actually slightly darker)








Thanks in advance!


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: Slips]
    #18876173 - 09/22/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lacrymaria lacrymabunda maybe.


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18876191 - 09/22/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They look like smaller cincs??? :confused:


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #18876224 - 09/22/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They're not that small.  Caps are around 2 inches, and they're about 3 inches tall.


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #18876244 - 09/22/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My bad. I meant bigger.


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #18876254 - 09/22/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Aah.


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18876486 - 09/22/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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maynardjameskeenan said:
lacrymaria lacrymabunda maybe.



Psathyrella species.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18876574 - 09/22/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It does look very similar to L. Psathyrella.  Here are some crappy spore prints in case anyone changes their mind.





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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: Slips]
    #18876909 - 09/22/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Slips said:
It does look very similar to L. Psathyrella.  Here are some crappy spore prints in case anyone changes their mind.







Psathyrella for sure. Notice how the print is purple-black, not purple brown. :thumbup:


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18876919 - 09/22/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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maynardjameskeenan said:
lacrymaria lacrymabunda maybe.




The little black threadlike remnants on the stipe

make me want to guess the same.

My Lac finds are usually a shade darker

but thats prob just due to habitat.

Also fragments on the edge of the cap

are common with my lac finds,

kinda like pan.paps on the edge

Sorry hash

I vote for Lacrymaria  too.


:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: paracelsus]
    #18876929 - 09/22/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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paracelsus said:
Quote:

maynardjameskeenan said:
lacrymaria lacrymabunda maybe.




The little black threadlike remnants on the stipe

make me want to guess the same.

My Lac finds are usually a shade darker

but thats prob just due to habitat.

Also fragments on the edge of the cap

are common with my lac finds,

kinda like pan.paps on the edge

Sorry hash

I vote for Lacrymaria  too.


:nodofunderstanding:



I see Lacrymaria lacrymabunda in me weilii patches, and they are usually more velvety in the caps and stems, and like you say, have more visible fragments on the margin but those could easily wash away... I do not know how to distinguish the different Lacrymaria species very well, but I do not think that they are lacrymabunda.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18876958 - 09/22/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you both for your expertise.


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18876993 - 09/22/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hash and mjk may be experts but I definitely am not.

Hash,

Yes, in me weilii patches aswell

during the spring  but not the summer

and they just recently popped again.

The weilii seem to been dormant last couple dry weeks but I

bet there will be some finds this week :thumbup:


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Re: Ottawa pan cinctulus? (id please!) [Re: paracelsus]
    #18878200 - 09/22/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

paracelsus said:
Hash and mjk may be experts but I definitely am not.

Hash,

Yes, in me weilii patches aswell

during the spring  but not the summer

and they just recently popped again.

The weilii seem to been dormant last couple dry weeks but I

bet there will be some finds this week :thumbup:


:inonothing:



Oh yes I'm sure things will be comin' along nicely about mid-week. Once that cold weather snaps its go time...


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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