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Stoopid Design * 2
    #18875879 - 09/22/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

For those that posit a Creator, why do you believe he designed things intelligently?

Ever try to eat a pomegranate? Why is an avocado pit so huge? Why do our rear teeth often grow into our other teeth causing major oral problems unless corrected medically? More importantly, why are the male testes fully exposed and filled with the most pain receptors?

There are a plethora of examples of stoopid design. Such flawed engineering kind of deflates the whole idea of ID.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #18875894 - 09/22/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not to mention the appendix, humans' naturally occurring, randomly-activating self destruct switch.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18875899 - 09/22/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You haven't shown that any of the things you listed as bad designs are.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: NetDiver]
    #18875910 - 09/22/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Not to mention the appendix, humans' naturally occurring, randomly-activating self destruct switch.




You shouldn't have, because you have to show how that would make all of creation, not a good design. If you don't do that you're just playing t-ball, like the OP.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: falcon]
    #18875945 - 09/22/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My bad for assuming intelligent readers.



This certainly appears to be an engineering flaw.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18876029 - 09/22/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This certainly appears to be an engineering flaw.


I agree, god has definitely been at work here. :sherlock:

Evidence for Stoopid Design can be found throughout the planet, things could never ever have gotten this stoopid without an all powerful omnipresent stoopid designer at work. I expect to see this idea taking it's rightful place as the leading theory among top scientists within the next two to three years. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Grapefruit]
    #18876036 - 09/22/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup: Stoopid is as stoopid does.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Grapefruit]
    #18876052 - 09/22/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ever notice how most IDers are also proponents of circumcision?

God in his perfection put this extra piece of skin here, but we will correct it.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18876106 - 09/22/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

God Damn the Penis Man


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18877351 - 09/22/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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This certainly appears to be an engineering flaw.




Who do you assume to be the engineer?


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #18877473 - 09/22/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:jimmorrison:


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18877510 - 09/22/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The tragedy is that intelligent people are able to think up a greater amount of negativity


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: tarzan92] * 1
    #18877518 - 09/22/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's that they actually are willing to take an honest look around.  They report what they see.  Not for the faint of heart.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Icelander]
    #18877539 - 09/22/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Honesty is accepting there are things you cannot change its a humbling reality


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18877557 - 09/22/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My bad for assuming intelligent readers.



This certainly appears to be an engineering flaw.




Appears?

That's an intelligent argument? It's no argument at all it's a question, an appeal to intuition of the reader. Engineers don't fuck up. Engineers don't fuck up when they are making improvements? 

And why waste your time if you don't think those who read what you write are not intelligent enough to understand it?


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I have done it before and it never has an effect on the true believer so what is the point?




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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Icelander]
    #18877618 - 09/22/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's that they actually are willing to take an honest look around.  They report what they see.  Not for the faint of heart. 




Perception being subjective, the fundamental is truth, not honesty, so those reports we can take with a pinch of salt.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: tarzan92]
    #18877648 - 09/22/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Honesty is accepting there are things you cannot change its a humbling reality




You should try it sometime.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #18877654 - 09/22/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's that they actually are willing to take an honest look around.  They report what they see.  Not for the faint of heart. 




Perception being subjective, the fundamental is truth, not honesty, so those reports we can take with a pinch of salt.





I take everything with salt but some things with a pinch and some with the whole fucking salt shaker.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #18877861 - 09/22/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's that they actually are willing to take an honest look around.  They report what they see.  Not for the faint of heart. 




Perception being subjective, the fundamental is truth, not honesty, so those reports we can take with a pinch of salt.




Can someone in honesty portray the middle ages as a utopian ideal? Only if they're very ignorant

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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18878233 - 09/22/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Indeed.  Perception.


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #18879771 - 09/23/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Indeed.  Perception.




So you view the times of plague and unlimited power of the catholic church as a utopian ideal? That was the basis of my previous statement you just agreed with. Or have you not heard of the Middle Ages :facepalm:


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18879957 - 09/23/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So you view the times of plague and unlimited power of the catholic church as a utopian ideal? That was the basis of my previous statement you just agreed with.




Those are elements you've just taken the liberty to introduce in elaboration.

The statement which I agreed with was "Can someone in honesty portray the middle ages as a utopian ideal?" to which my answer is "Yes, they can based upon perception".


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #18879962 - 09/23/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I encourage all to give their lives to jesus


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: tarzan92]
    #18879971 - 09/23/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

preaching:tongue:


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #18880175 - 09/23/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So you view the times of plague and unlimited power of the catholic church as a utopian ideal? That was the basis of my previous statement you just agreed with.




Those are elements you've just taken the liberty to introduce in elaboration.

The statement which I agreed with was "Can someone in honesty portray the middle ages as a utopian ideal?" to which my answer is "Yes, they can based upon perception".




I'm going to leave at this, the question is becoming increasingly meaningless


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Re: Stoopid Design [Re: NetDiver]
    #18880399 - 09/23/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Not to mention the appendix, humans' naturally occurring, randomly-activating self destruct switch.




My maternal grandfather, whom my mother never even met, died at age 22 from a burst appendix.

God damn you, God, you stoopid fuckhead! :shakefist:


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