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10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster!
    #18875849 - 09/22/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I ate a ten strip of 25i tabs on my way into a rave. The night in hell is as follows:
0:00 Ate 10 tabs. utterly disgusting.
:30 We were sitting in will call line and a girl I was with remarked on my pupils. I looked down and noticed that all the hairs on my arms were sitting up.
1:00 Definately starting to kick in. We were at a trap stage and I was having a blast, but felt uncomfortable for some reason. I kept this too myself, which later would prove to be a huge mistake.
2:00 I am getting full on hallucinations. I was watching the gogo dancers dance and everytime they moved their arms in a certain direction I would see what looked like angry bats fly away. I saw the ceiling build into a pyramid. I still felt extremely uncomfortable, so I asked to go to mainstage. This is when I began having vivid, life or death hallucinations. One of the most prominent (at this point in the evening) was seeing a swarm of cops just enter the crowd.
2:30 I began seeing vivid, violent hallucinations. I was sitting in the stands and I saw huge spikes plummet towards me. At this point, I fully lost my cool. I just remember hiding under the seats from the spikes and seeing them plunge through the chairs. Beyond this point I have little to no memory of what happened. The girl who witnessed this all is extremely angry at me, so I am still trying to gather the details from her. I will update with the details as soon as I can obtain them


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18875883 - 09/22/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Damn sounds like my worst nightmare!


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: microdotty]
    #18875892 - 09/22/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it was, and its the reason I am done doing drugs


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18876056 - 09/22/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Was it like that last hotel scene in Fear & loathing ...? You got reckless with a unknown research chemical probably made in a kitchen somewhere china.

So you got arrested by the lawenforcers?
Yea, you better take a break from this line of buisness for a few years and re-group..  Gg.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: lasdR]
    #18876085 - 09/22/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: ChinChiller]
    #18876090 - 09/22/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

no i managed to not get arrested. that was all hallucinations


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18876142 - 09/22/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I like turtles said:
it was, and its the reason I am done doing drugs




I hate to say this, but good... You don't have a lot of rationality. 10 mg of 25i? You do realize people have died from much less right?


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18879341 - 09/23/13 06:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

if your dumb enough to stick 10mg of 25i in your mouth then you got what you deserved. Its fucksticks like you that give the rest of us a bad name!


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: Element1]
    #18879919 - 09/23/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

its not the first time i have done it, and you must understand that that my tolerance to hallucinagens is far higher that than the normal psychedelic users.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18879946 - 09/23/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I like turtles said:
my tolerance to hallucinagens is far higher that than the normal psychedelic users.




mine too... i generally eat a 10 strip of L... but 25i is not L... eating a 10 strip of 25i is about as safe as russian roulette, regardless of tolerance.. bad move OP...


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18880248 - 09/23/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I like turtles said:
its not the first time i have done it, and you must understand that that my tolerance to hallucinagens is far higher that than the normal psychedelic users.




Tolerance does not stop it from being toxic. You body still has to metabolize the same amount of chemical.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18882246 - 09/23/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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its not the first time i have done it, and you must understand that that my tolerance to hallucinagens is far higher that than the normal psychedelic users.




Tolerance does not stop it from being toxic. You body still has to metabolize the same amount of chemical.




... Totes!! The next time you drop over 5mg it could be lights out for you.. Just because you have a high tolerance does not mean the toxicity levels of the drug are going to decrease lol.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18882279 - 09/23/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

People have died from 5mg of 25i. You took 10mg... You're lucky to be alive. I can't believe you took this much in public.

Kudos to your friend who kept you from getting arrested. That is one badass friend right there.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: nooneman]
    #18882805 - 09/23/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I thought most of the people died from a heart attack. The toxicity (from my understanding) came from the fact that it was a full antagonist of your seratonin receptor. If my seratonin receptor is less capable of recieving those effects, doesnt that mean it would take more to be lethal?
Also, this is not the most I have taken. My tolerance at one point was so high I managed to take 10 mg intranasally and be fairly functional.
And tbh, I dont believe I deserve heckling from most of you. I am fairly sure everyone here has abused hallucinagens at some point or another, even though there are risks involved. I had a friend go completely insane for several weeks from 1 hit of LSD, and I am sure most of you have taken more than that despite the risks involved.
Imho, death is not that different than utter insanity. Also, one could argue that taking that much at a rave was safer than taking it anywhere else due to EMT's being on hand.
I am not defending my actions, just merely stating that its not uncommon to abuse hallucinagens.
I also do not recommend that anyone else does this.
But to give you an idea of how many nbomes I have done, here is a short list
25c:
did 4 hits intranasally my first time
did 8 at a later date
started regularly doing 10 until I managed to obtain 25i
25i: did 4 intranasally
did 6 at a later date
did 10 more than once a week for a month.
took a long break- then went to the rave that this is a trip report for XD

I also dont regret my actions one bit at this point.
While acid has always been a positive experience(even when i took 25 hits of 1 hit quit blotters, nBomes are always such a negative experience but the sheer fear that they instill really puts the value of life in perspective. I have had near death experiences in sober, day to day life that did not strike half as much fear as 10mg does.
Its not for everyone, and it isnt for me anymore as I stated above, but someone had to point out the positives of this experiences, as there are always positives to any experience.
I take that back though. I do regret taking 10mg at a rave, simply because I ruined a close friends night.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18882981 - 09/23/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you take a long break then take a hefty dose, your gonna be in for 1 hell of a ride and this ride may not have a ticket back. Just be smart about those alphabet soup drugs, them shits sooooo dangerous.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18883555 - 09/24/13 05:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The people who died from NBOMe (with one exception) all died from acute toxicity from the drug itself, not from heart problems. LSD has no risk of overdose, and is notoriously safe in large doses. NBOMe is notoriously deadly in large doses. Even if you survive, it is very unhealthy to take such large doses of NBOMe, especially with such frequency.

Not all drugs are created equal. There is a big difference between abusing LSD and abusing NBOMe. Further, for most people abuse involves weekly use of regular sized doses. Very few people take such high doses frequently. In fact, few people take such high doses at all. The people who use high doses frequently end up seriously worse for the wear.

In the end, you're going to lose the magic and realize that you got nothing out of any of the experiences except for mental and physical health problems.

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I like turtles said:
I also dont regret my actions one bit at this point.




Quote:

I like turtles said:
it was, and its the reason I am done doing drugs



Sure sounds like you regret your actions. Almost everyone in this thread has been perfectly nice to you, but you interpret their responses as "heckling" you when in fact we're all trying to save you from killing yourself. Stop being so defensive. Try to learn from what others are trying to tell you. We have a great deal of knowledge and experience with NBOMe and psychedelics in general, please use our knowledge to your advantage.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #18883652 - 09/24/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I like Turtles... You may be right... I don't know what the exact reason of death was regarding nbomes, but that's just the thing... I don't think anyone does. I'm sure being a full agonist is part of it, but I've also heard of liver issues being possibly associated with it. Point is, it's a new drug that doesn't have such a hot history as far as safety profile goes. It's best to be reasonable with this drug or avoid it altogether. I'm all for RC's, but this is not one you want to go off the deep end with. I'm not even sure it's worth taking at all imo, but everyone has to judge that for themselves.

But regardless of what you chose, just at least play it safe. Life is worth some risk, but not THAT much especially when there are safer chemicals to dive deep with. I think the dangers of nbome really need to be promoted more


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18883772 - 09/24/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ive seen some pretty fucked up people at festivals from heavy abuse of nBOMs and other drugs. Be careful.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: snoot]
    #18883821 - 09/24/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

2mg 25i-nbome is overdose according to erowid iirc

also , people react very differently to it

bluelight says favorite dose they would recommend is max 1mg or so
some people do crazy things on 1-2mg, run into things, or become unconscious

600ug gave me a terrible bodyload, not sure I would do 25i again
worst bodyload I've tried, and had a DOx once where body hurt everywhere

it seems my night time visuals have changed after the 25i too, not sure if that is the cause
but very intense trails in the night now after doing it that has lasted many months now (in changing light conditions... right when going outside i.e.)


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: lessismore]
    #18884005 - 09/24/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not condoning high doses and I wouldn't do it again but one night I did 7 hits of 1000ug 25i and I was healthy as a horse the next day. Granted I'm 215lbs but I think a lot of the problems that's come up with it are either batch issues or particular health problems that aren't pointed out until these guys died. I won't do 25i again, I just sold my last 6 hits a few weeks back after sitti g on them for 6 months. It's so visual but it's so hollow. I would rather kick back and have some good laughs on some fine mushies.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #18884057 - 09/24/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not condoning high doses and I wouldn't do it again but one night I did 7 hits of 1000ug 25i and I was healthy as a horse the next day. Granted I'm 215lbs but I think a lot of the problems that's come up with it are either batch issues or particular health problems that aren't pointed out until these guys died. I won't do 25i again, I just sold my last 6 hits a few weeks back after sitti g on them for 6 months. It's so visual but it's so hollow. I would rather kick back and have some good laughs on some fine mushies.




Surviving doesn't make it safe. You don't know what kinds of damage it could do. You're not always going to "feel" damage immediately. Also not everyone gets hurt by this stuff. Some people trip 50 times on it and never have a problem. Others get seizures on their first attempts. Others trip many times without problems and THEN get bit. There could very well be some underlying causes, but as of now these causes are not known and so determining who is a victim and who is not is entirely random to us for now. There is no "safe" way to consume nbome for now, but surely "safer" ways such as don't take massive doses and limit your exposure.

I'm not trying to preach, but the dangers of this shit is completely downplayed by people who think it's just another psychedelic that only causes harm to people who should have seen it coming. You can even look at the structure. It is drastically different from most phenethylamines and there is no reason to assume it is as safe as other psychedelics until proven so... Which isn't looking likely for the time being. Now believe me i am not biased. I LOVE the stuff. I was about to buy a gram until I started doing research into it. The amount of sketchy reports were just too much to even consider ingesting it again.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18889901 - 09/25/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you've taken as much as you have, then you should still be tripping for a few months and not even need anything to intoxicate yourself.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #18891768 - 09/25/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have a better handle on my brain when tripping than most. For example, no matter how many mushrooms I eat, I never have any sort of mind blowing experience like I hear people describe(and I have taken a little over a half ounce in one siting)
And honestly, I have been permanently tripping (visually and audio) for a long time.
And as for the person who talked about how I must regret it, its not that I regret it and I changed my policies towards drugs as a result, It is more of growing up in a sense. I have just come to understand that I have no self control with hallucinagens and it isn't something I can continue doing for that reason. Its sort of like sex without a condom, feels great but you know it will go wrong at some point.
And as for the person who cited erowid, I know for a fact that the 2mg overdose was due to an uncommon reaction, not the drug itself. I have seen countless people where I live take more than that with no problem.
Just saying, erowid tends to be extremely biased.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #18893264 - 09/26/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not condoning high doses and I wouldn't do it again but one night I did 7 hits of 1000ug 25i and I was healthy as a horse the next day. Granted I'm 215lbs but I think a lot of the problems that's come up with it are either batch issues or particular health problems that aren't pointed out until these guys died. I won't do 25i again, I just sold my last 6 hits a few weeks back after sitti g on them for 6 months. It's so visual but it's so hollow. I would rather kick back and have some good laughs on some fine mushies.




Or the problem is that people think they are really doing 1000ug hits when in reality its much less, and misinformation flourishes just like stupidity.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: snoot]
    #18907300 - 09/29/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Jesus 10mg of RC....I can't even handle half a mg of L.

I'd never fuck with something like that. Especially a 10 strip.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18909509 - 09/29/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i find that RC's are far more spiritual than LSD. They just arent as fun.:tongue2:


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18910151 - 09/30/13 06:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i find that RC's are far more spiritual than LSD. They just arent as fun.:tongue2:



Lol weird I'm the exact opposite. Far more fun, less spiritual. In regards to nbome at least


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18938001 - 10/05/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Is there any rc blotter that you can notice no taste on whatsoever? Or is that really only actual LSD?


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18948628 - 10/08/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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1:00 We were at a trap stage





^ This in my opinion is where you went wrong.(Besides the obvious careless dosing)

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Is there any rc blotter that you can notice no taste on whatsoever? Or is that really only actual LSD?




There are a ton of different rcs all with vary degrees of dosage, so I wouldnt base anything off taste. Life is not so black n white.


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: I like turtles]
    #18960042 - 10/10/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Just saying, erowid tends to be extremely biased.



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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: DeeBee]
    #18962576 - 10/11/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm afraid to take 1mg of 25i-nbome after my 600ug experience :-)

10mg would kill me, even with tolerance I think, due to my reaction on 600ug

but no problem taking 5g mushrooms or 1000ug+ LSD

the vasoconstriction was severe on 600ug and lasted many days after
numb hands,arms,feet etc. , hurt for many days after

but I do have other health problems, so I shouldn't have done 25i in the first place... high bp and more etc.
I don't blame the drug completely, but it felt like a bad drug.... DOx felt nicer

the bodyload was so bad that the trip wasn't even enjoyable on 25i for me, on 600ug
and no visuals on 600ug except snow and tracers, they first come on 1000ug+ people say


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Re: 10 mg of 25i-nbome at a rave. Complete disaster! [Re: lessismore]
    #18962942 - 10/11/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ive never taken too much 25i I've only tried it a few times, never seen the appeal, when theres amazing lsd around.


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