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1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow)
    #18875662 - 09/22/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So after many, many hours of reading posts here, I felt compelled to share my own ventures.

Background... (PF Tek's with success years ago, now I am growing again)
- I have constructed a PVC greenhouse, aprox. 2' x 3' x 5', with LED lighting, reptile temp switch (heater), fogger bucket (colored LED's are added bonus) with mircofan blowing fog into chamber. Able to maintain a 72 degree atmos with 90% humidy, + / - a few degrees, (I need a real hygrometer). Also a air pump (fish tank) providing FAE 24/7 through a modified quart jar.

As of now, I have 2 dz cakes in their 7th day on pin cycle, no growth yet, but I am hopeful this week to see some change.

My real question is... As with other posts i have read, there is conflicting information out there. So as I have done in the past, I took all the info and turned it into one Tek, my own, (so to speak). So, at this point I am left with 6 (almost fully colonized) WBS jars, that will need to be dealt with soon. Most likely I will bulk sub them at a 1:3 ratio into coir/verm sub into alum baking trays.... Unless I have any other options here.

At this point, Am I to let the bulk mix continue to colonize in the dark, and then after again fully colonizing, case? Or do i let the bulk colonize in my FC, exposed to FC conditions (with no casing layer)?

I hope I have been clear, and not upset the masters by asking questions that have already been answered in other posts. But this is my post, and would like my own feedback. To the mod's, thanks for your time and devotion.


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Re: 1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow) [Re: B4nAfterBurner]
    #18875772 - 09/22/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There is no need to keep them in the dark.  Cubes benefit from light at all stages of growth.  During your spawn run.  The time that your spawn is colonizing your substrate you want to wrap up the trays if thats what your going to use and provide some slits in whatever you use (saran wrap, aluminum foil) to provide GE. 

Once colonized you expose to fruiting conditions in your FC.  Dont bother casing cubes.


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Re: 1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow) [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18875793 - 09/22/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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Dont bother casing cubes.




Unless you get lots of blobs on your bulk PE projects :wink:


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Re: 1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18875799 - 09/22/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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:whathesaid:

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Dont bother casing cubes.




Unless you get lots of blobs on your bulk PE projects :wink:



:whathesaid:
Once I get a swab and start some PE I will case it because of this.


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Re: 1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow) [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18876465 - 09/22/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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There is no need to keep them in the dark.  Cubes benefit from light at all stages of growth.  During your spawn run.  The time that your spawn is colonizing your substrate you want to wrap up the trays if thats what your going to use and provide some slits in whatever you use (saran wrap, aluminum foil) to provide GE. 

Okay, So in a nutshell... I am to mix the colonized WBS 3:1 (or whatever the ratio) into my bulk. Put into trays, cover with plastic. Once fully colonized again (just sitting in a warm room with GE), simply put into FC and expose to pinning conditions? Also anything pro/con about a coir/verm sub? Thanks.



Figure I'd share what I've been working on to the world. Any comments welcome.


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Re: 1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow) [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18876522 - 09/22/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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PrinceShroom said:
Dont bother casing cubes.




Unless you get lots of blobs on your bulk PE projects :wink:



:whathesaid:
Once I get a swab and start some PE I will case it because of this.




What do you mean about "blobs on the PE"? I have a strain of PE started in Jars. Some went straight in to the FC as cakes, and some crumbled into baking trays and cased, just to experiment with different methods. Also I have a WBS jar of PE. So, do I need to be on the look out for something I have no knowledge of?


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Re: 1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow) [Re: B4nAfterBurner]
    #18876666 - 09/22/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea just let it colonize then pop out the blocks and put them in your martha.  People like coir/verm mostly cause of the bucket tek.  Plus the ease of getting coir and verm.  I pasteurize so ill throw anything up into my subs.  Straw manure coir verm whatever's at hand for me really.

Besides that your martha looks good.
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PrinceShroom said:
Dont bother casing cubes.




Unless you get lots of blobs on your bulk PE projects :wink:



:whathesaid:
Once I get a swab and start some PE I will case it because of this.




What do you mean about "blobs on the PE"? I have a strain of PE started in Jars. Some went straight in to the FC as cakes, and some crumbled into baking trays and cased, just to experiment with different methods. Also I have a WBS jar of PE. So, do I need to be on the look out for something I have no knowledge of?



PE has a tendency to put out first flush mutant blobs.  UTSE and you will find lots of pics to see what they look like.

Frank believes that casing PE drastically reduces the chances of getting mutant blobs


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Re: 1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow) [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18876704 - 09/22/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Frank does indeed :wink:


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Re: 1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18913120 - 09/30/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So, another Nube question... My grow looks good. Lots of pins. Lots of vertical growth. One thing tho, and I'm not complaining, I have this grand daddy B+ and grew this much in the same tray that is still pinning. What would have caused this much growth in such a short time while the other pins are just breaking the surface? Thanks in advance.



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Re: 1st Post....Yay Me....(also seeking advice for bulk grow) [Re: B4nAfterBurner]
    #18913169 - 09/30/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So again, seeking advice when it comes time to procreate my babies. I am looking at doing an LC from a healthy fruit. The sterile procedures do not scare me, as I am pretty neurotic when it comes to cleanliness. So are there any suggestions on a good TEK for an LC, or a whole other means to continue my strains? I have come across quite a few, however if there are any favorites, I'd love to get a link to a TEK. Thanks.


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