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psillyforager
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Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm?
#18874915 - 09/22/13 07:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi all, just wondering if there is any information available about a type of light that can be used to provide some lighting in the room for short periods without disturbing the circadian rhythm of fruiting mushrooms?
Sort of like how the old photos can be developed using red light to see what you are doing.
Sometimes i accidentally turn the light on in the room just out of habit and cant help but thinking I'm disturbing / waking up the mushrooms. For now i have taken the globe out but some long term fix would be handy.
Thanks
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PrinceShroom
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: psillyforager]
#18874920 - 09/22/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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12/12 is a good light cycle for mushrooms at all stages of growth
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: PrinceShroom]
#18875126 - 09/22/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can also grow in the dark, or you could use indirect light like anywhere in your room with a window. I never used artificial lights and never had an issue. The indirect light is enough.
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Stromrider
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: dark3st]
#18875156 - 09/22/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It sounds like you are asking what kind of light you can use during the 12 hour dark period so you don't disturb the circadian rhythm correct?
A little light during the dark period here and there won't hurt anything. I do it all the time.
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dark3st
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: Stromrider]
#18875190 - 09/22/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really guys? No evidence to support that mycellium needs light nor mushrooms just heresy. The mushrooms will grow with your own schedule.
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Kjetterfaen
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: dark3st]
#18875305 - 09/22/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hearsay or heresy? O.o
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Stromrider
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: dark3st]
#18875327 - 09/22/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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dark3st said: Really guys? No evidence to support that mycellium needs light nor mushrooms just heresy. The mushrooms will grow with your own schedule.
What the heck are you talking about. You're post is confusing
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PrinceShroom
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: Stromrider]
#18875333 - 09/22/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea its heresy to give mushrooms light during there dark cycle like pot. Your gonna burn in hell for it.
No its not, some incidental light during the dark period is fine for mushrooms.
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Stromrider
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: PrinceShroom]
#18875346 - 09/22/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agreed. Like I said before I do it all the time
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Kjetterfaen
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: Stromrider]
#18875355 - 09/22/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think (hope) he meant to say that "The claim that mycelium and mushrooms needs/benefits from light is just unproven hearsay"..
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Stromrider
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: Kjetterfaen]
#18875370 - 09/22/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well then that's just ignorant
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StygianKnight
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: Stromrider]
#18875707 - 09/22/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Turning on a general light should be pretty dim in comparison to their closer & brighter lights. Just think of it as the moon coming out.
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dark3st
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: Kjetterfaen]
#18875725 - 09/22/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kjetterfaen said: I think (hope) he meant to say that "The claim that mycelium and mushrooms needs/benefits from light is just unproven hearsay"..
Yes I have a dresser that provides pitch black darkness and my mushrooms still grow and mycellium still can propagate. You guys act like everything RR or some other TC is always a fact. Use your own experimentation. I had to grow in pitch black because I couldn't let anyone know what I was doing. The only problem was they all didn't grow straight up.
Now I just grow with indirect lighting from outside and all is good.
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StygianKnight
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: dark3st]
#18875745 - 09/22/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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dark3st said: The only problem was they all didn't grow straight up.
Doubtful that was the only problem. They were also pretty thin and light, with tiny little caps. Some of us do experiment. They don't need light, but it sure does help.
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cynical bastad
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: dark3st]
#18876041 - 09/22/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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dark3st said:
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Kjetterfaen said: I think (hope) he meant to say that "The claim that mycelium and mushrooms needs/benefits from light is just unproven hearsay"..
You guys act like everything RR or some other TC is always a fact. Use your own experimentation.
Something that comes from RR or other TC's is usually the way to go...of course pull up quotes from 10 years ago and sure...they've come up w/ better method's eh? Most things are proven wrong, w/ enough time passing there are new methods, every day History is re-written no?
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anne halonium
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: cynical bastad]
#18876188 - 09/22/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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we used 2 phase lighting..... LED ruby red680 nm and blue 450 nm
general work, red lights, fruiting blue.
lights are " stadium mount", so its whole room color. hall lights always ruby red 680nm, and room is a blackout,
we also , have white LED , and RB LED options also.
chip lights , for the SAB.

all said, im of the opinion, that alot of lights work, its a question of color and power and duration.( and heat value)
ya dont need much power, and ya dont need much duration. and IMO, they like blue alot.
personally, i would only give a damn about circaidian rythm , in a highly pro grow system/ clones. perfect light rythms, isnt gonna turn a PF tek FC into a cornucopia.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: cynical bastad]
#18876205 - 09/22/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've left my 6500k lights on for two days by accident..there were colonizing and fruiting tubs in the room.
They didn't give a shit as far as I could tell
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dark3st
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18876304 - 09/22/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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StygianKnight said:
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dark3st said: The only problem was they all didn't grow straight up.
Doubtful that was the only problem. They were also pretty thin and light, with tiny little caps. Some of us do experiment. They don't need light, but it sure does help.
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FrankHorrigan said: I've left my 6500k lights on for two days by accident..there were colonizing and fruiting tubs in the room.
They didn't give a shit as far as I could tell 
And they grew regular. Just not straight up. But you were here right?
-------------------- Back.. I'm going to do it...I'm getting sober from opiates ... I got weed, gabapentin, propranolol, and GHB, I have 100mg tramadol left. I can do this. I can do this. OFINTQWGVGAKGCYKBUBX free dark P. Tampanensis prints to ODD members.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: dark3st]
#18876334 - 09/22/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Growing "straight up" has more to do with your fruiting conditions than your light IMO.
My light is never directly overhead. My mushrooms always grow "straight up" because my fruiting conditions make them quite happy 
Some genetics will also be prone to large families that may twist around each other as they grow, due to proximity.
"Leaning" mushrooms are usually trying to get down to the high humidity at the surface of the substrate. This can happen when your FC has low RH.
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dark3st
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Re: Type of ambient light that doesn't ruin circadian rhythm? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18876395 - 09/22/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ya its usually just the first flush then after that they straighten themselves up after I straighten da fuck up lol. (Or not it could just be first flushes because of something idk about)
-------------------- Back.. I'm going to do it...I'm getting sober from opiates ... I got weed, gabapentin, propranolol, and GHB, I have 100mg tramadol left. I can do this. I can do this. OFINTQWGVGAKGCYKBUBX free dark P. Tampanensis prints to ODD members.
no stamps atm FREE SEEDS for ODD WCA members ONLY I have these seeds: Orange, red, and yellow sweet peppers, Purple poppies, White Habanero, Yellow Thai, Bolivian rainbow peppers, milk thistle, red chilly pepper, HBWR.
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