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    #18874569 - 09/22/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: rikuni]
    #18874579 - 09/22/13 02:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

We're human bro we cant predict stuff like that, when god returns we'll see fact


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: rikuni]
    #18874589 - 09/22/13 02:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Just more questions.

Still have believers and skeptics..Not much will change.

I didn't understand a damn thing in that abstract.


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: cez]
    #18874596 - 09/22/13 02:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: tarzan92]
    #18874599 - 09/22/13 02:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: rikuni]
    #18874608 - 09/22/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Everything is okay bro calm down the universe is a friendly place think about ice cream and how awesome it tastes hey you know whats great? You are where you belong and so am i and we love it here, theirs so much cool stuff to admire


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: tarzan92]
    #18874657 - 09/22/13 04:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: rikuni]
    #18874665 - 09/22/13 04:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I only had to eat a small shroom one time to permanently change my mind


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: tarzan92]
    #18874669 - 09/22/13 04:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: rikuni]
    #18874677 - 09/22/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You dont need much knowledge to feel good


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: rikuni]
    #18875001 - 09/22/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Everything is okay bro calm down the universe is a friendly place think about ice cream and how awesome it tastes hey you know whats great? You are where you belong and so am i and we love it here, theirs so much cool stuff to admire




i know but still theres a matrix and shit in there:psychsplit:
It doesnt change anything but to know it is fun. I would like to know what happens when the whole world would know... could be good or not good:psychsplit:




I'll take a wild guess and imagine a "Smarter Planet" won't be good for me at least.

Remember the scene in the matrix where they pulled out the chip that looked a lot like an RFID?  That was real.



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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: rikuni]
    #18875601 - 09/22/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hi, what implications does this have if they prove it? What will happen then? Will the creator pull the OFF switch?

Discuss please.

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Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation



http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.1847




That's like saying that a person in one of your dreams is going to prove that the whole dream reality you're both in is being created by a dreamer. As far as I am concerned, the certainty that I have about reality in my dreams is only transcended by my waking up. I also believe that my waking reality is also a dream, and that essentially, our physical world is a dream in the Divine Mind. This is not an original thought of course, the Hindus have been saying this about Vishnu, the Preserver, who dreams this universe and sustains it until HE awakens, at which time this universe disappears. Whatever the model or mythos, "scientists" can't "prove" myth and metaphysics. The Cause is outside of our own universe just as we are outside of the universe that we dream into existence.


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18875630 - 09/22/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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rikuni said:
Hi, what implications does this have if they prove it? What will happen then? Will the creator pull the OFF switch?

Discuss please.

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Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation



http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.1847




That's like saying that a person in one of your dreams is going to prove that the whole dream reality you're both in is being created by a dreamer. As far as I am concerned, the certainty that I have about reality in my dreams is only transcended by my waking up. I also believe that my waking reality is also a dream, and that essentially, our physical world is a dream in the Divine Mind. This is not an original thought of course, the Hindus have been saying this about Vishnu, the Preserver, who dreams this universe and sustains it until HE awakens, at which time this universe disappears. Whatever the model or mythos, "scientists" can't "prove" myth and metaphysics. The Cause is outside of our own universe just as we are outside of the universe that we dream into existence.




Flying In A Blue Dream.  Ignore the Matrix Reality, and Dream On.  I get it.  We are free to always have it "Our Way" even when we don't.



Better to ignore what's going on, and just plain hope we can wake up from our dream every morning.


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: rikuni]
    #18879528 - 09/23/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They're "about" to prove it? :lol:  You guys crack me up.


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: Icelander]
    #18879563 - 09/23/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No they cant prove it because they already proved what you know is right


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: tarzan92]
    #18879574 - 09/23/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Symmetry breaking

Interesting, I'm sure I could understand if I understood quantum mechanics ;-)

I'm sure 99% of population has no idea what symmetry breaking is
or QCD.. get a phd then maybe you'll start working on it

but I think the matrix is real, the matrix is our thoughts
they are an invisible prison for us

take the red pill :wink:  - there are many ways (meditation/buddhism/psychedelics/self-improvement/self-reflection therapy...)

thoughts,desires,emotions cause attachment/suffering (that is what buddhism teaches)
only think when needed, or meditate to learn to control the thinking machine  so it doesn't control you

“A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security.“
-Einstein


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: lessismore]
    #18879624 - 09/23/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And the irony is that wanting to know what the matrix is, gets you further into the matrix :wink:

More thoughts

I like to let all thoughts go, only think when needed, live in the moment/do what I love

It is nice being empty of thoughts (no worries), that's the natural state (no stress)

But have tried the opposite for many years (thoughts can run your whole life, just like desires can)

The matrix makes us forget ourselves


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18887069 - 09/24/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I also believe that my waking reality is also a dream, and that essentially, our physical world is a dream in the Divine Mind.




I'd recommend George Berkeley to you, but something tells me his work is already in your library. :smile:


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: Mahananda]
    #18887136 - 09/24/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I also believe that my waking reality is also a dream, and that essentially, our physical world is a dream in the Divine Mind.




I'd recommend George Berkeley to you, but something tells me his work is already in your library. :smile:




Thanks for the suggestion. No, except for the Encyclopedia of Philosophy, I haven't read much of Berkeley, and I don't own any of his works - yet. :wink:


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Re: Discuss the Matrix, scientist are about to prove it. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18887931 - 09/25/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Each part of the divine mind as a whole
One soul
Nothing is real

That is my belief

Its only our outer appearance that makes us unique
Inside were the same


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