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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92]
    #18874298 - 09/21/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Cognitive function is an intellectual process that an infinite universe does not require




You didn't say an infinite universe you said a mind. A mind is characterized by cognitive functions. Did you have something else in mind?


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: Rahz] * 1
    #18874322 - 09/21/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Good luck with a straight answer. Ya gotta love these make-believe 'what-if' threads wherein someone has a brain hiccup on drugs and then declares it as fact.


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: Rahz]
    #18874346 - 09/21/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

To suggest that you created yourself is to ignore the life in others


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: Rahz]
    #18874355 - 09/21/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thats correct i did say a mind, the mind of an intelligent designer at that.


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92]
    #18874429 - 09/22/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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That's correct i did say a mind, the mind of an intelligent designer at that.




Intelligence is closely associated with cognitive processes. I'm having trouble imagining a non-cognitive intelligence. :scratch head:


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #18874462 - 09/22/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Good luck with a straight answer. Ya gotta love these make-believe 'what-if' threads wherein someone has a brain hiccup on drugs and then declares it as fact.




If I didn't give up on humanity a long time ago, this thread would be frustrating.



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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: Rahz]
    #18874640 - 09/22/13 03:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Dont chase it,  it will come to you


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92] * 2
    #18874654 - 09/22/13 03:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

For some mysterious reason idiocy comes harder to some than others.


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92] * 1
    #18874839 - 09/22/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Share your thoughts but be respectful to your neighbors





I think nobody knows. :satansmoking:


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92]
    #18875302 - 09/22/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Dont chase it,  it will come to you




I was hoping you would explain non-cognitive intelligence to us.


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92]
    #18876843 - 09/22/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

When the universe contrives to create a receiver, a nervous system, then the universe can become aware of itself in different measures, depending upon the sophistication of the nervous system. So, 'God' experiences God through every animal, plant, and for all I know, mineral, according to its capacity. I remember building a crystal radio that received radio stations through a coil of wire and a single Germanium diode. I learned how to use a rusty (oxidized) razor blade and a piece of graphite pencil lead (trench radio), or a bit of raw Gallium arsenide instead of the diode. In fact, through a section of oxidized aluminum rain gutter over the front door of my parents' house, I could periodically hear intermittently, partial transmissions WVNJ, a local NJ radio station. If I tuned into it on a radio, it matched the amplitude of the vibrations that were coming through two sections of oxidized aluminum. This is just an analogy of how "Creative Intelligence" (as it's called in Transcendental Meditation®) becomes conscious and self-conscious.

If Awareness is the infrastructure of Reality as Buddhism suggests, then perhaps Plato was also correct about Pure Ideas inherent in it, and those Ideas are picked up by the most finely-tuned nervous systems, converted to thoughts, words, schematics, inventions, and hence our human-made physical world. Then the Creative Intelligence (god) gets to see through electron microscopes, Hubble space telescope, and human minds under the influence of Entheogens.


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: Rahz]
    #18876988 - 09/22/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Have faith because i already explained it. Further analysis into this divine insight is not of necessity. All knowledge is nothing without love. All efforts are meaningless without a change. All understanding is in vain. We are not built to fight wars and complain. Life happens its strange rearrange,  its worth the pain. Dont question everything youll go insane kick back relax and enjoy your claims, make others brighter and you'll love their ways                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      BE GAY


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92]
    #18877070 - 09/22/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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BE GAY




At least you have solved the cosmological mystery of dark matter.


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92]
    #18877082 - 09/22/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Have faith because i already explained it.


:bowdown::bowdown:



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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: Icelander]
    #18877111 - 09/22/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Have faith because i already explained it.


:bowdown::bowdown:



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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18877127 - 09/22/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The art of splaining takes decades to master.


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: Icelander]
    #18877213 - 09/22/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Jesus loves you


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92]
    #18877432 - 09/22/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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All knowledge is nothing without love. All efforts are meaningless without a change. All understanding is in vain. We are not built to fight wars and complain. Life happens its strange rearrange,  its worth the pain. Dont question everything youll go insane kick back relax and enjoy your claims, make others brighter and you'll love their ways 




You post things I agree with that have nothing to do with whether the universe is intelligent. I agree that in a way a human can be the universe pondering itself, enjoying itself, hating itself, killing itself, loving itself... etc. But saying the universe is intelligent could be taken to mean other things. I don't see any reason to believe in them so it seems best to refrain and not deal with the cognitive dissonance I would surely experience as a result of holding a belief I could not support with my own logic. This isn't about my 'life outlook' but about what seems true. Not anthropomorphizing the entire universe doesn't make me gloomy. :tongue:


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: tarzan92]
    #18877466 - 09/22/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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tarzan92 said:
Jesus loves you




You're lying imo. You don't know shit about jesus. That jeebus loves you garbage doesn't even belong in this forum. :ass::satansmoking:


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Re: Does the universe know its intelligent? [Re: Rahz]
    #18877475 - 09/22/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It doesnt matter what you believe just be happy im a christian but i interpret the bible differently then most, above all treat yourself good and be your own best friend even if that means accepting that anything is possible


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