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evileye001
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shroom tek physics question
#18874250 - 09/21/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok so theres a tek on here, we will call it the spore jar tek.
in a nutshell u take a jar with a self healing injection porn, sterilize, place in cap, let print take place, remove, fill with water and boom! instant spore jar. just shake and fill syringe for for sterile spore syringe any time u need!
makes sense and seems like a great idea!
but after thinking a little i thought how can it a perfectly air tight and sterile jar?
at first yes, but once u draw a syringe u would be pulling a vacuum. (the other way around would be pressurizing so air would go out not in and no chance of contams.) but if it was perfectly air tight you would be lucky to get one maybe two syringe b4 you couldn't pull the plunger back or the plunger would fail due to the force needed to keep making the vacuum stronger.
therefore there must be air getting into the jar from outside and it wouldn't be invulnerable to contams...
what do u think
ps. this tek is on one of the official shroomery guides, on of the pf tek ones if im not mistaken.
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Edited by evileye001 (09/21/13 11:26 PM)
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: evileye001]
#18874255 - 09/21/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Put in a small filter patch.
And wrong forum.
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: fee]
#18874260 - 09/21/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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pub is for ANY intelligent discussion...
plus it was a drunken thought. still valid thow
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: evileye001]
#18874277 - 09/21/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good question! Bacteria and other shroomy pathogens are not technically airborne. They ride on the dust! The jar sterilization tek is a veritable method for preventing dust and other fine, bacteria ridden particles from entering the jar. It's totally fine (and necessary) for the jar to be accessible to gases, because the mycelium depends on a steady rate of gas exchange to grow properly! Once you let particles >20um into your jars, you're asking for trouble! Hope I could be of assistance.
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: Caine]
#18874285 - 09/21/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Caine said: It's totally fine (and necessary) for the jar to be accessible to gases, because the mycelium depends on a steady rate of gas exchange to grow properly! Once you let particles >20um into your jars, you're asking for trouble! Hope I could be of assistance.
very fair answer but were not talking about mycelium were talking about spores.
still full answer was very intelligent.
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: Caine]
#18874286 - 09/21/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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For starters he ain't growing shit. Its for spore solution.
And secondly double layer of tyvek for a filtration hole
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: fee]
#18874290 - 09/21/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeh, forgive me, I'm a little drunk. The concept is still the same. Sterile does not mean airtight! Louis Pasteur was the pioneer of proving that statement.
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: Caine]
#18874300 - 09/21/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Caine said: Yeh, forgive me, I'm a little drunk. The concept is still the same. Sterile does not mean airtight! Louis Pasteur was the pioneer of proving that statement.
wouldn't fuck with him he seems to know his shit but previous poster has a good point. a good filter would solve the problem all together
they should put that in there tek but they dont so it was a good question.
maybe i should make my own spore jar tek...
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: fee]
#18874308 - 09/21/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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fee said: For starters he ain't growing shit. Its for spore solution.
And secondly double layer of tyvek for a filtration hole
just thought of it
shaking would get it soaked with water and spores. big time contam chance problem...
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: evileye001]
#18874321 - 09/21/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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A filter on both sides of the lid.
Hense double layer.
It worked for me for the last 15 years
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: fee]
#18874328 - 09/21/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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fee said: A filter on both sides of the lid.
Hense double layer.
It worked for me for the last 15 years
would still get wet and spore covered...
but contam problem cuz of that im not sure.
do you not get water splashing/dripping out when u shake?
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: evileye001]
#18874332 - 09/21/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nope
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: evileye001]
#18874338 - 09/21/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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evileye001 said:
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fee said: A filter on both sides of the lid.
Hense double layer.
It worked for me for the last 15 years
would still get wet and spore covered...
but contam problem cuz of that im not sure.
If the filter pores are small enough, the contams are not going to get through no matter how wet and spore covered it is
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Re: shroom tek physics question [Re: Caine]
#18874385 - 09/22/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Caine said:
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evileye001 said:
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fee said: A filter on both sides of the lid.
Hense double layer.
It worked for me for the last 15 years
would still get wet and spore covered...
but contam problem cuz of that im not sure.
If the filter pores are small enough, the contams are not going to get through no matter how wet and spore covered it is 
good point..
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