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You have to be really good to be really evil
#18872055 - 09/21/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just by definition. If you're really evil, you're really good at it.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: eve69]
#18872131 - 09/21/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think twisting the definition adds validity to your point.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: eve69]
#18872221 - 09/21/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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eve69 said: Just by definition. If you're really evil, you're really good at it.
This has nothing to with spirituality /thread
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: eve69]
#18872354 - 09/21/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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eve69 said: Just by definition. If you're really evil, you're really good at it.
It's time for your afternoon spanking.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: LunarEclipse]
#18873041 - 09/21/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What do you mean? One can be really evil without being particularly good at it, like that british wannabe serial killer (I forget his name) who left too many clues behind and got caught after only his second murder.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Deviate]
#18873201 - 09/21/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, even when you consider Hitler. He is the standard of evil which makes everybody else feel oh so good by comparison. But his evil was so evil that it was something we could relate to. He wasn't some shabby evil like Cheney and the whole Haliburton creeps. Or like those fuckwads at BP Oil. I mean,now they have commercials commending themselves for caring about the environment. That's just shoddy evil and not worth any respect. This is all about spirituality actually. Since good and evil are ethics and it takes ethics along with epistemology and ontology to equal a viable spirituality.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: cgsjames]
#18875762 - 09/22/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cgsjames said: I don't think twisting the definition adds validity to your point.
right, it made more sense just as a thread title.
cause i agree, it's kind of a 'what goes up must come down' logic. and if on the way 'up' you were secretly thinking naughty thoughts, on the way down you will reap the karma of that for better or for worse. but you cant get really down if you didn't get really up. simple physics, and its something we all must go through.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: g00ru]
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well, we talk about religion like it makes us better but then Nazis were what we all are really we all don't do much for those who are different and we support only those who get our stamp of approval on this earth we all know by now that what we are doing is destroying everything but basically by branding it with this god or this concepts it makes it good to exploit, rape, pillage and kill, not to mention maim. I know that's pretty extreme right? I mean, it's okay to rape girls if you're on a football team or in the army women are still secondary citizens all over the world so Nazis were the picture of evil but do they really win I know this concept is heavy and I don't expect anyone to really want to think about cause I don't either but I see worse people than Nazis everyday Nazis were pussies compared to these people these's peoples reach is everywhere and they're just beurocrats
maybe I don't see them personally but we see the things they do
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: eve69]
#18876116 - 09/22/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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eve69 said: Just by definition. If you're really evil, you're really good at it.
Indeedy
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: eve69]
#18876125 - 09/22/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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first of all it's never 'okay' to rape girls 
secondly i think you are really dwelling on the negative
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: g00ru]
#18876161 - 09/22/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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but was I good at it?
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: eve69]
#18876172 - 09/22/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i couldnt say lol
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: g00ru]
#18876228 - 09/22/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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g00ru said: first of all it's never 'okay' to rape girls 
secondly i think you are really dwelling on the negative
Never? What if you just rape one? And what if she whispers in your ear, "rape me now handsome".
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: eve69]
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eve69 said: Well, even when you consider Hitler. He is the standard of evil which makes everybody else feel oh so good by comparison. But his evil was so evil that it was something we could relate to. He wasn't some shabby evil like Cheney and the whole Haliburton creeps. Or like those fuckwads at BP Oil. I mean,now they have commercials commending themselves for caring about the environment. That's just shoddy evil and not worth any respect. This is all about spirituality actually. Since good and evil are ethics and it takes ethics along with epistemology and ontology to equal a viable spirituality.
Oh I see what you're saying. Then the case of the wannabe serial killer I mentioned would also be shoddy evil.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Icelander]
#18878783 - 09/23/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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g00ru said: first of all it's never 'okay' to rape girls 
secondly i think you are really dwelling on the negative
Never? What if you just rape one? And what if she whispers in your ear, "rape me now handsome". 
obviously the lines get blurry at a certain point. but you know in that situation if what you're doing is consensual. it's not like all humanity goes out the window just because you're horny...
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: g00ru]
#18879335 - 09/23/13 06:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just rape them in my mind. Keeps me out of jail and society happy. Plus I don't like hurting people.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Icelander]
#18879403 - 09/23/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I just rape them in my mind. Keeps me out of jail and society happy. Plus I don't like hurting people.
That's what's so great about imagination! Imagining the act isn't the same as doing the act. Hence the vicarious consentuality of television.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: eve69]
#18879507 - 09/23/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've kept myself out of a lot of trouble with just my imagination. For instance I never married.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: eve69]
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: tarzan92]
#18879604 - 09/23/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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"good" "evil"
false dichotomy.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: ClockCode]
#18879748 - 09/23/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: ClockCode]
#18879794 - 09/23/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like true better then false
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: tarzan92]
#18879813 - 09/23/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What makes you think you know the difference?
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Icelander]
#18879825 - 09/23/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I rarely question the obvious
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: tarzan92]
#18879900 - 09/23/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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In other words you don't. You rather just assume your judgment is foolproof.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Icelander]
#18880612 - 09/23/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Many Germans thought Hitler was doing 'good'. And I'm quite sure, he thought that for himself. A dark chapter of human history. Many would take that route, I guess, if one would let them...
All bad is done, because the doers think it's good. There is no exception.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: BlueCoyote]
#18880748 - 09/23/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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All the chapters of human history seem dark to me. I can't tell the good guys from the bad guys.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Icelander]
#18880764 - 09/23/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They all seem dark because we just repeat the same one over and over. I mean it only takes a cursory glance at writings from tacitus and pliny to see their worries about the same corruption in Rome that we fear today. Ancient greece, medieval states, earlier, later, it's all there.
It only takes a few generations for us to completely forget the past. How many people know ANYTHING about their great great grandpa? Great grandfather? Hell I know people who are oblivious about their grandparents or fathers. It's generational amnesia, and "history" is now seen more like an esoteric story book than a teacher.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: ClockCode]
#18880829 - 09/23/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ClockCode said: "good" "evil"
false dichotomy.
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i tend to agree. bad boy for life!  
BUT I dont see all of human history as dark. To me it only takes a little bit of light to illuminate a whole lot of darkness. You know things like wars happen, that doesn't mean humanity is fundamentally wrong. So many good things have happened also.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Icelander]
#18880869 - 09/23/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I see the differentiation of bad and good guys in the now. No 'good' long term goal in the future can justify any 'bad' deeds in the now 
clock: yes, it's all methodology to make us forget. So those in power can stay that, this way.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: ClockCode]
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ClockCode said: They all seem dark because we just repeat the same one over and over. I mean it only takes a cursory glance at writings from tacitus and pliny to see their worries about the same corruption in Rome that we fear today. Ancient greece, medieval states, earlier, later, it's all there.
It only takes a few generations for us to completely forget the past. How many people know ANYTHING about their great great grandpa? Great grandfather? Hell I know people who are oblivious about their grandparents or fathers. It's generational amnesia, and "history" is now seen more like an esoteric story book than a teacher.
Bingo! I've been stating this to mostly deft ears here for some years now. 
My little quote on this is "Most people believe history begins and ends with their lifetime"
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Icelander]
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ClockCode said: They all seem dark because we just repeat the same one over and over. I mean it only takes a cursory glance at writings from tacitus and pliny to see their worries about the same corruption in Rome that we fear today. Ancient greece, medieval states, earlier, later, it's all there.
It only takes a few generations for us to completely forget the past. How many people know ANYTHING about their great great grandpa? Great grandfather? Hell I know people who are oblivious about their grandparents or fathers. It's generational amnesia, and "history" is now seen more like an esoteric story book than a teacher.
Bingo! I've been stating this to mostly deft ears here for some years now. 
My little quote on this is "Most people believe history begins and ends with their lifetime"
its not that history hasn't been largely a story of doom and gloom. that's all part of its charm. but i don't see it as a 'bad story' i think the ending is entirely up in the air still.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: g00ru]
#18881949 - 09/23/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the ending is a foregone conclusion.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Icelander]
#18881969 - 09/23/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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and what is that?
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: g00ru]
#18882043 - 09/23/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The same fate as all species.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: Icelander]
#18882051 - 09/23/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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soo...evolve?
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: g00ru]
#18882100 - 09/23/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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or you could take the total philosophical role and those words have no meaning.
According to Nietzsche, no point of view can comprehend absolute truth: there are only different perspectives from which one can see a matter.
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Re: You have to be really good to be really evil [Re: g00ru]
#18882104 - 09/23/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Possible but more likely simple extinction.
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