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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Icelander]
    #18883189 - 09/24/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I have come here for eight years trying to talk sense to a failing humanity.  I've suffered greatly in having to listen to what most of you have been thinking.

What say you?




I reckon this Buddha bloke nailed it. Life is suffering. Get into a better state of mind, eradicate the other influences, way to do it is Buddhism.

So maybe there's many things going on ad infinitum, and it just gets better and better if you're in the know/on the right path and can be open to learning magic and stuff


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: lolwut]
    #18883192 - 09/24/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A warrior is never indulgant in anyting, let alone the stuff that our DNA has control of that hurts up.

Maybe if you were mashochistic...


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: lolwut]
    #18883340 - 09/24/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what?


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Icelander]
    #18883373 - 09/24/13 02:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How about pathological altruism?  :smile:

I've just come across this article, I concede it's not
From any great authority on the matter, but just a suggestion.

http://buddhism.about.com/b/2011/10/05/true-selflessness-is-truly-selfless.htm


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: tribesman]
    #18883393 - 09/24/13 03:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Read my dozens of rebuttals to this in other threads. I'm so sick of going over basic concepts in logic. :shrug:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Icelander]
    #18883512 - 09/24/13 05:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
what?




They've got it covered both ways, maybe it's S&M - haven't checked that out - but if you can teach yourself to derive pleasure from pain, you can't go wrong


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: lolwut]
    #18883613 - 09/24/13 06:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Still working on that one.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Icelander]
    #18893409 - 09/26/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I have come here for eight years trying to talk sense to a failing humanity.  I've suffered greatly in having to listen to what most of you have been thinking.

What say you?




You're joking, right?


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18893491 - 09/26/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hardly.:satansmoking:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18893776 - 09/26/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I have come here for eight years trying to talk sense to a failing humanity.  I've suffered greatly in having to listen to what most of you have been thinking.

What say you?




I say, that is exactly the same story as me. Mindfulness meditation helps tremendously.


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: lolwut]
    #18893981 - 09/26/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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lolwut said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
what?




They've got it covered both ways, maybe it's S&M - haven't checked that out - but if you can teach yourself to derive pleasure from pain, you can't go wrong




Lot of truth in this. If we're here to experience existence, there's no substantial difference between pleasure and pain other than how we choose to look at it.


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: lolwut]
    #18893983 - 09/26/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I use Kratom myself. :shrug:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Icelander]
    #18896529 - 09/26/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I use Kratom myself. :shrug:




Bar-fights and alcohol


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Icelander]
    #18909998 - 09/30/13 05:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I have come here for eight years trying to talk sense to a failing humanity.  I've suffered greatly in having to listen to what most of you have been thinking.

What say you?




The world revolves arounds the sun.


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Beanhead]
    #18910027 - 09/30/13 05:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Are you saying I am the son?


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Icelander]
    #18910037 - 09/30/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I am the Sun :sun:


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: lolwut] * 1
    #18910050 - 09/30/13 05:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I am the Walrus.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Icelander]
    #18910100 - 09/30/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I like that place. But I prefer:



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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Icelander]
    #18910337 - 09/30/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's just a tad annoying that most Western languages won't allow "selfless" and "I" collide together instead of contradicting itself.

Enlightened hedonism, you once described in a thread as the will to do good but along with the realization that it's all for personal gratification. How is this different?

Not to forget the perspective;
What is good for you, doesn't neccesarily mean good for family
What is good for your family, doesn't mean it's good for you relatives (eg. time/energy spent)
What is good for relatives might clash with the interest of society
What is good for society might clash with the country it's concerns (eg. building of a road)
What is good for humanity may be bad for the world.

There's too much noise to be still heard. Perhaps one day we will give up our little indifferences and act together. A common universal goal that drives humanity?

One can dream right...?

I have an idealized image of a "better world" yet that is very dangerous since to die for an idea; it is unquestionably noble. But how much nobler it would be if men died for ideas that were true! :wink:


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Re: Maybe I have been selfless all this time. [Re: Beanhead]
    #18910429 - 09/30/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

One can dream right...?



I agree with that part. ^

Enlightened hedonism is not the will to do good as I see it but rather the realization the most of the time what is the most beneficial to the self overall also benefits others. Of course the reason it's called enlightened is one must be self aware and awake enough to be able to really understand what is in ones ultimate best interest.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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