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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
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our government doesnt exactly have a great track record with honesty. every 10 years, something that happened 40 years ago comes out that proves some of these "whackjob conspiracy theorists" were right about some shit.
I think you are a retard if you think assad really gassed those people, and a double retard if you think that even if he did that it is justification for attacking Syria. Every year some shitstain country gets some despot who massacres tens of thousands of his people and it doesn't even make the news.
oh, but he used chemical weapons... and everyone knows that genocide is ok as long as it is done with machetes and bullets and even bombs.
would you call it a conspiracy theory if someone made the very short logical jump to claiming that the reason chemical weapons are a big no-no is because there is very little money to be made from deploying them? most of these weapons have contaminates which can ruin the "value" of vast stretches of land for years.
there is no money in chemical warfare.
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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What Putin Has to Say to Americans About Syria By VLADIMIR V. PUTIN
A Plea for Caution From Russia
MOSCOW — RECENT events surrounding Syria have prompted me to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders. It is important to do so at a time of insufficient communication between our societies.
Relations between us have passed through different stages. We stood against each other during the cold war. But we were also allies once, and defeated the Nazis together. The universal international organization — the United Nations — was then established to prevent such devastation from ever happening again.
The United Nations’ founders understood that decisions affecting war and peace should happen only by consensus, and with America’s consent the veto by Security Council permanent members was enshrined in the United Nations Charter. The profound wisdom of this has underpinned the stability of international relations for decades.
No one wants the United Nations to suffer the fate of the League of Nations, which collapsed because it lacked real leverage. This is possible if influential countries bypass the United Nations and take military action without Security Council authorization.
The potential strike by the United States against Syria, despite strong opposition from many countries and major political and religious leaders, including the pope, will result in more innocent victims and escalation, potentially spreading the conflict far beyond Syria’s borders. A strike would increase violence and unleash a new wave of terrorism. It could undermine multilateral efforts to resolve the Iranian nuclear problem and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and further destabilize the Middle East and North Africa. It could throw the entire system of international law and order out of balance.
Syria is not witnessing a battle for democracy, but an armed conflict between government and opposition in a multireligious country. There are few champions of democracy in Syria. But there are more than enough Qaeda fighters and extremists of all stripes battling the government. The United States State Department has designated Al Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, fighting with the opposition, as terrorist organizations. This internal conflict, fueled by foreign weapons supplied to the opposition, is one of the bloodiest in the world.
Mercenaries from Arab countries fighting there, and hundreds of militants from Western countries and even Russia, are an issue of our deep concern. Might they not return to our countries with experience acquired in Syria? After all, after fighting in Libya, extremists moved on to Mali. This threatens us all.
From the outset, Russia has advocated peaceful dialogue enabling Syrians to develop a compromise plan for their own future. We are not protecting the Syrian government, but international law. We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos. The law is still the law, and we must follow it whether we like it or not. Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council. Anything else is unacceptable under the United Nations Charter and would constitute an act of aggression.
No one doubts that poison gas was used in Syria. But there is every reason to believe it was used not by the Syrian Army, but by opposition forces, to provoke intervention by their powerful foreign patrons, who would be siding with the fundamentalists. Reports that militants are preparing another attack — this time against Israel — cannot be ignored.
It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.”
But force has proved ineffective and pointless. Afghanistan is reeling, and no one can say what will happen after international forces withdraw. Libya is divided into tribes and clans. In Iraq the civil war continues, with dozens killed each day. In the United States, many draw an analogy between Iraq and Syria, and ask why their government would want to repeat recent mistakes.
No matter how targeted the strikes or how sophisticated the weapons, civilian casualties are inevitable, including the elderly and children, whom the strikes are meant to protect.
The world reacts by asking: if you cannot count on international law, then you must find other ways to ensure your security. Thus a growing number of countries seek to acquire weapons of mass destruction. This is logical: if you have the bomb, no one will touch you. We are left with talk of the need to strengthen nonproliferation, when in reality this is being eroded.
We must stop using the language of force and return to the path of civilized diplomatic and political settlement.
A new opportunity to avoid military action has emerged in the past few days. The United States, Russia and all members of the international community must take advantage of the Syrian government’s willingness to place its chemical arsenal under international control for subsequent destruction. Judging by the statements of President Obama, the United States sees this as an alternative to military action.
I welcome the president’s interest in continuing the dialogue with Russia on Syria. We must work together to keep this hope alive, as we agreed to at the Group of 8 meeting in Lough Erne in Northern Ireland in June, and steer the discussion back toward negotiations.
If we can avoid force against Syria, this will improve the atmosphere in international affairs and strengthen mutual trust. It will be our shared success and open the door to cooperation on other critical issues.
My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.
Vladimir V. Putin is the president of Russia.
Source : http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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our government doesnt exactly have a great track record with honesty. every 10 years, something that happened 40 years ago comes out that proves some of these "whackjob conspiracy theorists" were right about some shit.
Sure, it doesn't, but does that mean the government "always" lies, and first of all, maybe, ive just been following this Syrian debacle when it turned from a peaceful protest to a full scale civil war, because the asshole Assad wont grant reforms or step down. Ok, their were riots that brought down the governments in Yemen, Tunisia, Libya, and a few others, only Libya turned into a giant morasse and the world took notice at Qaddaffi killing his own folks without chemical weapons. Why is Syria so different? Well, Libya, Tunisia and such weren't supported by very powerful neighbors and other countries like Iran and Russia.
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I think you are a retard if you think assad really gassed those people, and a double retard if you think that even if he did that it is justification for attacking Syria. Every year some shitstain country gets some despot who massacres tens of thousands of his people and it doesn't even make the news.
I think you my friend, are the retard if you think the rebels would gas themselves, their own Sunni people, what a inane assertion, and no, despots don't gas or massacre people in the tens of thousands every year, infact the last time poison gas was used in warfare was in the 1980's. Their were massacres in Darfur that drew mass condemnation from the world community and guess what nothing was done, exactly what other massacres by despots are you referring to? You make it sound like despots massacring innocents is something as common as rain.
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would you call it a conspiracy theory if someone made the very short logical jump to claiming that the reason chemical weapons are a big no-no is because there is very little money to be made from deploying them? most of these weapons have contaminates which can ruin the "value" of vast stretches of land for years.
That's quite a fucking stretch. I doubt money determines whether or not chemical weapons are used, its a terror weapon, this is what happens when you fuck with me, you get gassed. You try to shoot mortars at Assads convoy when he leaves for Friday prayers, then the next day 60 something shells of sarin gas slam into Gouta which is controlled by FSA. Yea its the money, not the life and death struggle Assad is currently waging so he can keep his ass in power.
But whatever, I doubt anything their will be done by the world community, Assad will stay in power, the civil war will probably last for another few years till Assad is ousted, and then whether we like it or not, the Sunni's are going to take control, because after all they are in a fucking clear majority to do so. So while everyone bickers and bitches over what to do about the bad man, the FSA and ISIL will eventually overrun all of Syria, and then what?
Haha, no money in chemical weapons, like its a fucking mutual fund or something...
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
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I don't know if the rebels gassed themselves, or if it was purely a false flag mission. All it would take is one operative from any of the many countries that have interest in this pawn piece. Assad doing it is close to the bottom of my list of suspects.
also, i said "Every year some shitstain country gets some despot who massacres tens of thousands of his people and it doesn't even make the news." how did you read "gassing" in all that?
darfur, rwanda, congo, east timor, cambodia... we don't do shit. why? because there is absolutely nothing to gain for the US. We are not an altruistic nation. we do not do things out of the goodness of our heart. You tell me a war or intervention type action we have carried out that didn't have some monetary agenda?
do you really think that we are the kind of country that rattles sabers for hubris? it is all about money... or better yet, resources which equals money. we don't care if you massacred thousands of people, what we care about is "are the people in charge there able to be 'reasoned' with?".
afghanistan is sitting on the worlds largest untapped lode of lithium, but there is no infrastructure there. sure, the secondary agenda is that it is a great strategic piece against Russia, but that is just a bonus.
all you have to do is follow the money.
you are retarded if you think we would ever go into syria for anything other than economic reasons. Look at the history of leaders we have tangled with or overthrown. every single one of them has openly given the middle finger to america - except chavez, and the only reason we haven't invaded venezuela is because they play ball when it comes to money and resources. It isn't pragmatism, or altruism, or even self-preservation (thats what WW's are for)... it is nothing more than the almighty dollar that governs every single foreign relations decision for the US.
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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I don't know if the rebels gassed themselves, or if it was purely a false flag mission. All it would take is one operative from any of the many countries that have interest in this pawn piece. Assad doing it is close to the bottom of my list of suspects.
"False Flag" operations is the new biggest fucking cop out, everything is a fucking false flag nowadays. Yea, the guy who has every motive shoot gas shells into rebel controlled territory has nothing to gain and no motive. An operative? from what country, you're over complicating this.
Speaking of this whole debacle, you know whose pushing the Saudia Arabia Bandar dude giving chemical weapons to rebels, Fucking Al Manar, an trying to credit it to AP, Press TV, Al Manar, all of these, Hezbollah state television, Press TV is Iranian, all sleek and in English designed to fool retard americans who would rather take the words of Hezbollah as gospel, and they are good at disseminating misinformation, cause I have already seen myth after myth perpetuated and usually came from either SANA, PressTV, or Al Manar or any of their puppet sites.
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darfur, rwanda, congo, east timor, cambodia... we don't do shit. why? because there is absolutely nothing to gain for the US. We are not an altruistic nation. we do not do things out of the goodness of our heart. You tell me a war or intervention type action we have carried out that didn't have some monetary agenda?
Their hasn't been violence in Darur for several years, South Sudan split from Sudan, that was the un brokered peace resolution, Rwanda, that happened in the early 90's under Clinton, East Timor hasn't seen major violence since Australian peace keepers left, Cambodia? I didn't know their was a conflict going on their right now, maybe minor border clashes and skirmishes with small rebel groups, Congo? Well M23 seized the government in a coup, and a civil war has raged from low to high intensity for 60 years now.
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afghanistan is sitting on the worlds largest untapped lode of lithium, but there is no infrastructure there. sure, the secondary agenda is that it is a great strategic piece against Russia, but that is just a bonus.
That's absurd, I don't think we invaded Afghanistan over Lithium, maybe you should be taking Lithium.
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you are retarded if you think we would ever go into syria for anything other than economic reasons. Look at the history of leaders we have tangled with or overthrown. every single one of them has openly given the middle finger to america - except chavez, and the only reason we haven't invaded venezuela is because they play ball when it comes to money and resources. It isn't pragmatism, or altruism, or even self-preservation (thats what WW's are for)... it is nothing more than the almighty dollar that governs every single foreign relations decision for the US.
Wow, so you totally got American foreign policy figured out... Please...
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
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I don't know if the rebels gassed themselves, or if it was purely a false flag mission. All it would take is one operative from any of the many countries that have interest in this pawn piece. Assad doing it is close to the bottom of my list of suspects.
"False Flag" operations is the new biggest fucking cop out, everything is a fucking false flag nowadays. Yea, the guy who has every motive shoot gas shells into rebel controlled territory has nothing to gain and no motive. An operative? from what country, you're over complicating this.
ha, what motive did he have, what did he have to gain by gassing a measly 1000 people? why make a one-time limited, comparably small attack with chemical weapons? if he was going to use these weapons he would do it on a massive scale.
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Speaking of this whole debacle, you know whose pushing the Saudia Arabia Bandar dude giving chemical weapons to rebels, Fucking Al Manar, an trying to credit it to AP, Press TV, Al Manar, all of these, Hezbollah state television, Press TV is Iranian, all sleek and in English designed to fool retard americans who would rather take the words of Hezbollah as gospel, and they are good at disseminating misinformation, cause I have already seen myth after myth perpetuated and usually came from either SANA, PressTV, or Al Manar or any of their puppet sites.
now who sounds like the conspiracy theorist?
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darfur, rwanda, congo, east timor, cambodia... we don't do shit. why? because there is absolutely nothing to gain for the US. We are not an altruistic nation. we do not do things out of the goodness of our heart. You tell me a war or intervention type action we have carried out that didn't have some monetary agenda?
Their hasn't been violence in Darur for several years, South Sudan split from Sudan, that was the un brokered peace resolution, Rwanda, that happened in the early 90's under Clinton, East Timor hasn't seen major violence since Australian peace keepers left, Cambodia? I didn't know their was a conflict going on their right now, maybe minor border clashes and skirmishes with small rebel groups, Congo? Well M23 seized the government in a coup, and a civil war has raged from low to high intensity for 60 years now.
my point isn't that they are ongoing. Every genocide eventually will run out of people to kill. My point is that our foreign relations/diplomatic precedents show that we do not intervene because of altruism, or hubris, or for any other reason other than directly benefiting us economically. With respect to these other genocides, how is syria any different? Are we saying that it is ok to massacre shit-tons of people, just as long as you do it without using chemical weapons?
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afghanistan is sitting on the worlds largest untapped lode of lithium, but there is no infrastructure there. sure, the secondary agenda is that it is a great strategic piece against Russia, but that is just a bonus.
That's absurd, I don't think we invaded Afghanistan over Lithium, maybe you should be taking Lithium.
right... so we are still there to get Osama? whatever helps you sleep at night buddy...
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: SneezingPenis]
#18868089 - 09/20/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=118481
What do you make of this?:
"Al Qaeda fighters, Syrian rebel group declare truce A ceasefire agreement posted on the Northern Storm Brigade's Facebook page was signed by both parties and negotiated by the powerful Islamist Tawheed Brigade, which is based in Aleppo."
Sounds like Al Qaeda is about to join up with Syrian Rebels, if Syrian Rebels hadn't already pretty much been put in power by Al Qaeda. And we are going to bomb Al Assad to help them out. Great.
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: imachavel]
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I thought this was interesting http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/19/us-urges-un-action-syria-sees-stalemate/
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From the link: Syria's deputy premier,meanwhile,said Damascus believes the conflict has reached a stalemate and would call for a ceasefire if long-delayed peace talks in Geneva were to take place.
"Neither the armed opposition nor the regime is capable of defeating the other side," Qadri Jamil told Britain's Guardian newspaper."
You have to take anything from either side with a grain of salt so I wonder if there will be a stalemate or if either side can achieve victory.
The only thing I care about is I really hope we stay out it
Muslims killing muslims can only be seen as a good thing in my eyes that should be allowed to run it's course. I don't see benefit in interference
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Simplicitry]
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Muslims killing muslims can only be seen as a good thing in my eyes that should be allowed to run it's course. I don't see benefit in interference
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: imachavel]
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Muslims killing muslims can only be seen as a good thing in my eyes that should be allowed to run it's course. I don't see benefit in interference

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog" Winston Churchill
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  "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society. I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal." "Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Simplicitry]
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Muslims killing muslims can only be seen as a good thing in my eyes that should be allowed to run it's course. I don't see benefit in interference

"Islam in a man is worse then rabbies in a dog" Winston Churchill
At least rabies kills the dog
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Simplicitry]
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From the link: Syria's deputy premier,meanwhile,said Damascus believes the conflict has reached a stalemate and would call for a ceasefire if long-delayed peace talks in Geneva were to take place.
"Neither the armed opposition nor the regime is capable of defeating the other side," Qadri Jamil told Britain's Guardian newspaper."
You have to take anything from either side with a grain of salt so I wonder if there will be a stalemate or if either side can achieve victory.
The only thing I care about is I really hope we stay out it
Muslims killing muslims can only be seen as a good thing in my eyes that should be allowed to run it's course. I don't see benefit in interference
When have we ever stayed out of something when a buck can be turned by someone over here?
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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ha, what motive did he have, what did he have to gain by gassing a measly 1000 people? why make a one-time limited, comparably small attack with chemical weapons? if he was going to use these weapons he would do it on a massive scale.
He had all the motive, who escorted the UN into the area, FSA acted as ad hoc bodyguards for the UN soldiers, previous gas attacks have occurred, Their has actually been 14 episodes of gas attacks by rebels and SAA government forces. Assad knows that the world isn't going to act on this issue, like I said earlier, the gas attacks were a reprisal for the mortar attack on his convoy leaving for Friday prayers. Using the weapons on a wide scale? well he doesn't want the UN on his ass, so most gas attacks are small scale in scope. The thing is that their is a powder keg laying with all these chemical stockpiles dotting around Syrian countryside that can easily fall into the hands of real real nasty characters.
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now who sounds like the conspiracy theorist?
All of these media outlets I mentioned are real, look them up, the Syrians, Iranians, and Hezbollah have very sophisticated media and are masters propaganda, they also fund groups like PFLP-GC who are terrorists from primarily the Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp. They Syrian electronic army routinely hacks and defaces western sites, they are very very sly at this, PressTV is a western designed news channel with white anchors that has on holocaust deniers, and anything else to discredit Israel or the US. Al-Manar is also jumping into English media, and producing videos and propaganda, this isn't a conspiracy theory, these are facts. look them up. these are all real entities with controversial backgrounds.
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my point isn't that they are ongoing. Every genocide eventually will run out of people to kill. My point is that our foreign relations/diplomatic precedents show that we do not intervene because of altruism, or hubris, or for any other reason other than directly benefiting us economically. With respect to these other genocides, how is syria any different? Are we saying that it is ok to massacre shit-tons of people, just as long as you do it without using chemical weapons?
I don't know, I generally agree with you, when should the UN step into a country if a civil war escalates into genocide, many FSA rebels fear that after Assad is toppled they will have to battle with Hardline Islamists like Ahrar al Sham, Nusra Front, and ISIL.
Personally I think we should aid the moderate FSA, they will eventually become a cohesive fighting force as the war drags on, with military advice and training, their lack of discipline has led to appalling losses in men. This is war, war is hell and I agree their is no difference between a chemical attack and a bomb landing on you or a bullet killing you. So far no one give a shit until this recent media attack
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Icelander]
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How the hell are we going to turn a buck here?
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How the hell are we going to turn a buck here?
oh, you poor idiot bastard....
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How the hell are we going to turn a buck here?
Gunrunning. Taking Saudi money to stir up trouble. Possibly reconstruction money. Maybe oil revenues, whether direct or indirect.
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: ChuangTzu]
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ChuangTzu said: How the hell are we going to turn a buck here?
agreed.
What is our motive? We do nothing without a motive for cash. Think of this, we help the rebels, they will topple Assad and rape him and over throw the government, behead him on t.v., and the new regime will be as bad as the old one.
Dude wtf, even if Assad needed to be removed, the current group of rebels is just as bad, no need to assist them. When will we quit doing this retarded crap
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: viktor]
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ChuangTzu said: How the hell are we going to turn a buck here?
Maybe oil revenues, indirect.
most likely
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: imachavel]
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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: ChuangTzu]
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Icelander said: When have we ever stayed out of something when a buck can be turned by someone over here?
How the hell are we going to turn a buck here?
First off arms companies make money when we drop bombs. Then if there is further involvement more arms and then maybe the big rip off of rebuilding what we've bombed all on the taxpayer tab. It's all in the family. Then of course some control of oil revenues is a possible.
There's certainly nothing of a humanitarian nature going on here.
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