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Mazatapec on Rye (First Grow). 2nd Flush!
    #18869318 - 09/20/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Greetings everyone, got my syringes and spawn in yesterday so I'm starting my first grow. Intended to grow PE but my order came with a free syringe of mazapatec and after reading a bit about it I figured wth. Also seems to be a bit more noob friendly.
So I just noc'd 2 quart spawn bags of rye berry with ~3cc spore solution each. Gonna get my monotub set up then I'll post some pics. Now for the fun part, if I've learned anything about shroom cultivation is I'll need a good amount of patience =P

First signs of life:

As of 10/2 :


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18958300 - 10/10/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Question: I have 2 1quart bags atm one is at 100% the other is around 20%. Would it have a negative impact on my grow if I mixed n soaked both then moved to a monotub or should I just spawn each one seperately in smaller bins? The sub is a hpoo coir mix with gypsum and a basic casing will be applied. The one bag that's finished shows very strong growth while the other is more of the fuzzy not very matured mycelium.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18958335 - 10/10/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

if you mix the one that isn't fully colonized into the monotub you're asking for contamination. Two separate ones, or wait but waiting isn't optimal either you should use grain spawn right when it's fully colonized.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18958338 - 10/10/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You are asking for trouble if you spawn the 20% bag before it's fully colonized. You have two choices.

1)Spawn seperately to smaller tubs as you stated.

2)You can put the fully colonized bag in the fridge to dramatically slow growth, and wait for the other one to catch up.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: mushmagic]
    #18959990 - 10/10/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys, about the fridge thing. That wouldn't harm the mycelium would it? I just wanna do both in one to cut back bulk colonizing times. Now my spawn to sub ration is pretty low around 1:5. Which would also be asking for contams I'd think.

Also wouldn't the uncolonized grain just act as nutrients same as the sub?

I'll upload a pic of the slow bag, it's around 40-50% by what is visible. Though the mycelium doesn't appear as strong as the other.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18960057 - 10/10/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)


The slow bag. Had trouble getting the other sides because of the humidity. It's pretty consistent patches through out the surface as in the pic and the bag feels pretty solid so i can tell its growing inside aswell.


The other bag which is just dying to grow lol =/

As far as liners go, I can use anything similar to a trashbag right? Color and light permiability have no effect as far as I know and all I have is regular white bags.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18962057 - 10/10/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No the fridge won't harm it at all. Uncolonized grains will cause problems because they're sterilized, therefore competing molds and bacteria can get a foothold on them long before the mycelium has a chance. Yes a white liner should work fine, you just want to block the FAE and evaporation from happening inbetween the sub and the side of the tub and also preventing pockets of higher humidity between it which would be the perfect micro environment for fruitbodys.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: mushmagic]
    #18962075 - 10/10/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

2 quarts int't enough for a mono.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18962082 - 10/10/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on the size of the mono. If it was a mini mono like a shoebox sterilite tub it would work just fine.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: mushmagic]
    #18962715 - 10/11/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the input mush! Sorry if I hadn't clarified it is a mini, but I guess doing 2 minis works out in the long run making it relative in size to a reg mono. Mine are about half the size of a 50ish quart tub, and I have the added benefit of a fall back if the first goes south =P


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18984869 - 10/16/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So on 10/13 i set up my first mini mono, covered it with a bag and put in my closet. Yesterday, about 2days later i decided to checkout what it was doing. The whole tub seems to be colonized to about 75-80% with what appears to be ridiculous strong growth. Its all white and not fuzzy so I'm not that worried, same was in my bags. Had trouble getting a descent pic but the surface is consistently covered like this.

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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18984934 - 10/16/13 06:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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2 quarts int't enough for a mono.



It is if the mono is small.
This is 2 quarts of spawn on its fourth flush



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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18984993 - 10/16/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Those are beautiful pasty! :inlove:


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18985030 - 10/16/13 06:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks Strom :blush:


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18985089 - 10/16/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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fleki said:

The slow bag. Had trouble getting the other sides because of the humidity. It's pretty consistent patches through out the surface as in the pic and the bag feels pretty solid so i can tell its growing inside aswell.


The other bag which is just dying to grow lol =/

As far as liners go, I can use anything similar to a trashbag right? Color and light permiability have no effect as far as I know and all I have is regular white bags.




If those bags are from the same syringe, I'd say the slow one is battling bacteria. I wouldn't mix a healthy one with a slow one.
This is a 12q tub spawned with 2q grain So 2q is plenty for a small mono


For lining the tub, most plastic trash bags let enough light through to cause side pinning anyway so it is a wasted effort. If you want to line the inside, use aluminum foil. I simply wrap the outside bottom 4" with duct tape.

Mazatapec is a great grow, no huge fruits, but full heavy canopies and fast colonizing times. If started the same day, you'll likely have dried Maz fruits before you see PE pins.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18985106 - 10/16/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The slow bag. Had trouble getting the other sides because of the humidity.



You mean condensation, which has very little to do with the actual humidity.


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: PussyFart]
    #18985214 - 10/16/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Haha nice catch hacker, I was completely spaced when I typed that out. Indeed I meant condensation =)
Skippy: thx for the input, I already sorted out my lining it seems the be doing just fine. My tubs are pretty similar. Maza was the random freebie that came with my envy syringes. Picked them for those exact reasons, I mean my tub is a mini but it looking to be on track for fruiting or casing within the next few days. that's like 5 days from bag to tub =). Though it did take a bit to colonize the grain.

My slow bag seemed to beat whatever was slowing its growth because it exploded over night and is rdy to go. Nice fruits btw pasty, I'm hoping mine will turn out the same =)


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18985225 - 10/16/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I did side by side studies with iso cultures.
Cased and not cased.
They performed identically
IMO cubes need no casing


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: skippydude]
    #18989579 - 10/17/13 05:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I fully understand that cubes don't exactly NEED a.casing layer but I realize now how "uneven" the surface of my sub is. Givin how rhizomorphic maza mycelium is couldn't it be slightly beneficial? Just to even everything out. Theres like little rhizo trees growing lol


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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
    #18989587 - 10/17/13 05:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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So I fully understand that cubes don't exactly NEED a.casing layer but I realize now how "uneven" the surface of my sub is. Givin how rhizomorphic maza mycelium is couldn't it be slightly beneficial?



Not all Maza mycellium is rhizomorphic, and no, just because you have rhizomorphic mycellium does not mean a casing layer is going to help anything.

Well, it won't be of any help unless proper conditions cannot be obtained.


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