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Icelander
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clinging
#18868553 - 09/20/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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always amazes me how tenaciously we (most of us) cling to life no matter what the conditions. It's like we lose if we are not the last one standing.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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r72rock
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This has been on my mind all day today.
I don't think we just cling to life itself though, I think we cling to this idea that we hold what life should be (among other things). I think about how attached everyone is to their sense of self or their identity, and how they're willing to preserve that at a hefty cost. Like people who'll fight a war to maintain a way of life, or to maintain their belief in a religion... like they're fighting for something greater than themselves.
I know I'm attached to my sense of intelligence, and I've identified myself with that for a long time. I would give up nearly anything to maintain my intelligence or my sense of intelligence -- like I'd hate the idea of losing something that I've gained, like knowledge (or perceived knowledge).
It's crazy to even see people who'll still pick life, even if it isn't meaningful to the individual. Like being bed ridden in a hospital because they don't want to die.
Life be crazy like that.
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Icelander
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Re: clinging [Re: r72rock]
#18868681 - 09/20/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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When you think your way of life is important and then realize everyone thinks that and people who think that are dropping like flies all around you some cognitive dissonance sets in.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Kickle
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I made this post while you were away but your post reminded me of it and I thought you might relate.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18825916
I get cognitive dissonance all the time when I realize a happy ending is mostly BS and that such an idea is what feels so important and worth clinging to. Making a happy ending to whatever story is going on at the moment. Bleh.
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Icelander
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Re: clinging [Re: Kickle]
#18869133 - 09/20/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great thread idea I can relate
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Kickle
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Thanks man
how was your time away?
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Icelander
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Re: clinging [Re: Kickle]
#18869622 - 09/20/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great, lots of mountain climbing.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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andrewss
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Quote:
Icelander said: Great, lots of mountain climbing. 
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quinn
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and yet here you still are
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Icelander
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Re: clinging [Re: quinn]
#18870930 - 09/21/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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why wouldn't I be?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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liquidlounge

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-------------------- As far as I assume to know...
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quinn
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because you're another one of us stoopid humans
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Re: clinging [Re: quinn]
#18872031 - 09/21/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've never claimed otherwise. I'm just a little less stoopid.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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