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Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids?
    #18868084 - 09/20/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

For instance when you PC your jars does the polyfill get wet? If so do you have to let it dry before removing the foil or anything like that?


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18869320 - 09/20/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

use foil polyfil is not water proof. no you dont have to wait for it to dry.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: j3rk0ff]
    #18869444 - 09/20/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Make the hole in your lid and stuff with polyfill prior to putting your jars in the PC. Cover with 2 layers of aluminum foil and scrunch it up around the neck of the jar. Then put in PC. Shouldn't have any issues with the polyfill if done correctly.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: SgtGanja]
    #18869555 - 09/20/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So it's fine if the polyfill is wet after coming out of the PC or are you saying it shouldn't be wet? I assume it will be wet since I used to use felt lids, which I've come to not trust (might just be the brand I used, it wasn't ezfelt), and they were always wet after coming out of the pressure cooker. Not sure whether the wetness is a cause of my contamination or if the filters just weren't doing a good job. I would double foil and tightly secure it around the neck btw, felt always still came out wet though.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18869629 - 09/20/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have always used ball/kerr jars with metal lids and never had a problem with my polyfill getting wet. Maybe a drop or two from condensation, but the aluminum foil should really stop any water from getting the lids wet. This could also be due to having too much water in your PC. I have found that ~1" of water up the sides of the jars is ideal and will not boil out.

Edit: To answer you're question, if your polyfill comes out wetter than just a few drops, that's a bad thing. This means you allowed extra water into your jars which will mess up the water content in your spawn.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18869642 - 09/20/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So it's fine if the polyfill is wet after coming out of the PC or are you saying it shouldn't be wet? I assume it will be wet since I used to use felt lids, which I've come to not trust (might just be the brand I used, it wasn't ezfelt), and they were always wet after coming out of the pressure cooker. Not sure whether the wetness is a cause of my contamination or if the filters just weren't doing a good job. I would double foil and tightly secure it around the neck btw, felt always still came out wet though.




If you cover the top well enough with foil any condensation should collect on the foil, leaving the polyfill, filter disc, etc. beneath it dry.

Just be careful removing the foil so that you don't drip any of the condensation on the foil back onto your jar lid.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: coffeehead]
    #18869658 - 09/20/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I dont care for polyfil on my jars, I prefer micropore. Either way, tear your foil wide enough to cover the jar, double it over, then wrap it TIGHTLY on your jar lids...helps. 

Also, I open the PC as soon as its dropped to 0 PSI, and is still very very hot. This way moisture evaps of the lids real quickly, and you dont get so much condensation under your foil/on your lids.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: Gretchenmeister]
    #18869667 - 09/20/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I dont care for polyfil on my jars, I prefer micropore. Either way, tear your foil wide enough to cover the jar, double it over, then wrap it TIGHTLY on your jar lids...helps. 

Also, I open the PC as soon as its dropped to 0 PSI, and is still very very hot. This way moisture evaps of the lids real quickly, and you dont get so much condensation under your foil/on your lids.




Good info here. I have heard that micropore tape does not allow for enough GE? What are your thoughts? Being that you are a TC and all.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: SgtGanja]
    #18869679 - 09/20/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

gets wet from steam that is it you'll be fine.

im testing out doubled up tyvek supposed to water proof. took two small pieces of masking tape and put on 2 sides to hole in place. see how that works but switching to sfd's

polyfil is great and all i just hate how grain clumps to it during shake


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: j3rk0ff]
    #18869710 - 09/20/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm thinking maybe my spawn is too wet then as I'm assuming the felt was getting wet from evaporation from the grains. Should there not be any condensation on the inside of the jars after pcing because I normally have at least a little bit? I rarely have mushy grains on the bottom or popped grains, but normally condensation will form and sometimes even there is visible water around the grains which are pressed up against the glass. This always goes away with a shake though.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18869737 - 09/20/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm thinking maybe my spawn is too wet then as I'm assuming the felt was getting wet from evaporation from the grains. Should there not be any condensation on the inside of the jars after pcing because I normally have at least a little bit? I rarely have mushy grains on the bottom or popped grains, but normally condensation will form and sometimes even there is visible water around the grains which are pressed up against the glass. This always goes away with a shake though.




This is expected after coming out of the PC. As Gretch said above, take the jars out of the PC as soon as the pressure releases. After the jars have cooled down to room temp on the outside, shake then well to distribute the water evenly throughout the grain. After that, let the jars sit over night so the grains inside can cool down completely. After this, you shouldn't see any puddles of water or visible water inside of the jars.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: SgtGanja]
    #18869773 - 09/20/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lately I haven't been using foil on my polyfil

everything is fine so far.


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #18869830 - 09/20/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I've always wondered about the moisture content of my grain, but after checking this video by RR it seems mine are fine. It confuses me how everyone says they should 'be dry on the outside' and 'no clumping' yet even in this video you can see them sticking to RR's hands and when he turns the jars upside down there are very clearly clumps in there. Maybe I define 'dry' and 'clumping' different than everyone else, but if grains stick to your hands and/or feel cool/cold I consider that 'wet' or at least 'moist' and if they stick to one another I consider that to be clumping. :shrug:


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Re: Any precautions you must take with using polyfill lids? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18871192 - 09/21/13 08:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you should always you foil on your polyfil.

polyfil is synthetic fibers almost like cotton. there is no way you could use polyfil without foil as your jars would get filled with water from the water dropping down like rain of the lid of the pressure cooker. always use foil with polyfil.


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