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More odd amanitas
#18866956 - 09/20/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seems to fit with Amanita rubescens but I am probably way off.
Habitat: Where does it grow? Where the pine needles from the tree line meet the grass on my lawn
Gills: White detached
Stem: thick hollow with one yellowish ring around the top of the volva
Cap: 1/2 inch - 2inch diameter white flesh
Spore print color: White
Bruising: Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
Other information: No scent to these at all. Not even a hint of mushroom odor. Growing in small groups of 1-4


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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: lsms]
#18867049 - 09/20/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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nothing to do with a.rubescens which is pink. its most likely a. franchetii or a. citrina but im not sure.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: mahniti]
#18867126 - 09/20/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanita muscaria var. guessowii seems like it could fit too, do you know how I can tell if the spores are ellipsoid without a microscope, I read it was possible in a post on here but it didn't mention how to do it.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: lsms]
#18867165 - 09/20/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is 100% not Amanita muscaria or Amanita rubescens!!
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: Tangich]
#18867310 - 09/20/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Habitat: Where does it grow? Close to a different pine section on my lawn.
Gills: White seems like pores or the most crowded gills ever.
Stem: almost an inch thick hollow white with yellow at volva
Cap: 1 inch - 2inch diameter white flesh veil remnants

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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: lsms]
#18867403 - 09/20/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanita frostiana is quite likely.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: Tangich]
#18867642 - 09/20/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tangich said: Amanita frostiana is quite likely.
Seems like you nailed that one. I'd bet I just knocked off some of the rings when I dug them up. I found some of what I think to be brown agarics also. If you wouldn't mind taking a crack at these your input is always appreciated. They were growing close to the suspected A. frostiana.
Stem:4-5inches pretty much equal to diameter of cap. some fuzzy bits going down it
Cap: Dark brown center fading towards edges circular veil remnant pattern
Gills: White unattached close
There were 3 of them growing in a dense cluster in grass a few feet from multiple pines.

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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: lsms]
#18867718 - 09/20/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those are almost certainly Amanita amerirubescens.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: mahniti]
#18867818 - 09/20/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those are almost certainly Amanita amerirubescens.
i agree but still be careful.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: mahniti]
#18867879 - 09/20/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So A. amerirubescens are edible if properly prepared right but deadly if not? Which characteristics made you lean towards frostiana over guessowi or faded flavivolva? Just out of curiosity.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: mahniti]
#18868013 - 09/20/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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a. rubescens is maybe most tasteful mushroom i ever tried, but i try not to tell it to people, because its too dangerous. most amanitas have those characteristic patches, and your has some kind of veil or something.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: mahniti]
#18868063 - 09/20/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mahniti said: a. rubescens is maybe most tasteful mushroom i ever tried, but i try not to tell it to people, because its too dangerous. most amanitas have those characteristic patches, and your has some kind of veil or something.
That's exactly what I have found out researching them, multiple articles have said they are really good but not to bother. It seems almost impossible to undoubtedly ID an Amanita short of DNA analysis... All three I found had veils, the one I was extremely careful digging up seemed to have a uniform collar around the top of the volva.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: mahniti]
#18868401 - 09/20/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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All three I found had veils, the one I was extremely careful digging up seemed to have a uniform collar around the top of the volva.
i meant the yellow one, it doesnt have patches like most of amanitas but something that looks like cotton instead.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: mahniti]
#18869079 - 09/20/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is almost fully covered by the veil, it was just starting to split apart. Had to pick them a little young due to the lawn being mowed
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: lsms]
#18869423 - 09/20/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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These are my guesses...
1 Amanita crenulata 2 Amanita muscaria var guessowii 3 Amanita amerirubescens
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: Bobzimmer]
#18870846 - 09/21/13 04:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you advice against consumption of them I would take it?
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: lsms]
#18870979 - 09/21/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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These look like Amanita Muscaria var Guessowii.
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Re: More odd amanitas [Re: NGH]
#18871014 - 09/21/13 07:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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#2 does seem to fit with lots of young ones I have seen in the Agaric thread, I wish I didn't remove the stem from the cap, the caps popped open over night I would bet I could of had a better picture of the vulva rings after it actually seperated. There's one more that may of survived the mower I will have to check that out.
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