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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Ayahuasca preperation help
    #18866534 - 09/20/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hello,

I will be participating in an ayahuasca ceremony on sept 27.

To prepare I am eating a vegan diet for 7 days prior, with no meat, alcohol, oil , sugar, salt, spice , marijuana, coffee or junk food and no violent or disturbing shows or movies and no masturbation or sex.

However I will be using etizolam , Kratom and phenibut in the next week.

However , I will completely abstain From all drugs for two full days prior to the ceremony.

I will also be doing yoga and meditating each day for the next week and drinking only purified water.

Do you guys think this preparation will be adequate?

Anything else I should do or not do ?

Is two full days to let the Kratom or etizolam clear my system enough?

Tips?

Thank you !


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Edited by Moonshoe (09/20/13 08:15 AM)


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18866543 - 09/20/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yep. you're prepped and ready.


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18866767 - 09/20/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

How bout you just continue your life and not live fakely for a week before a trip that's supposed to show you who.you really are.


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: dark3st]
    #18866769 - 09/20/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

does it really matter, though, either way Aya will lay the smackdown.


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18866781 - 09/20/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Exact ly so why put toward the effort?


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: dark3st]
    #18866782 - 09/20/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

dark3st said:
How bout you just continue your life and not live fakely for a week before a trip that's supposed to show you who.you really are.




Well all the literature says its important to prepare by following a special diet and lifestyle so I think I better follow the ancient wisdom .

Last time I only prepared a day in advance or so , but this time a week.


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18866799 - 09/20/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ancient knowledge says cats are gods and the earth stood still as the sun moved around us, and we were the epicenter of the universe. :brilliant:

But its up to you.


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: dark3st]
    #18866860 - 09/20/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

dark3st said:
Ancient knowledge says cats are gods and the earth stood still as the sun moved around us, and we were the epicenter of the universe. :brilliant:

But its up to you.




That's true - but the majority special diet restrictions are in place because of the use of a MAOI. And while the other items are not going to cause any physical change in how the ayahuasca interacts with him, it could very well cause a mental change. For example, since the psychedelic trip is so dependent on set and setting - then preparing for an entire week may cause him to have a richer experience than he would normally, or at least a different one.


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #18866905 - 09/20/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The MAOI part is understandable but everything else is not understandable nor logical. (Any part of the ritual that's not medically needed/required)

^thats what I should have started with lol


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free dark P. Tampanensis prints to ODD members.

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I have these seeds:
Orange, red, and yellow sweet peppers, Purple poppies, White Habanero, Yellow Thai, Bolivian rainbow peppers, milk thistle, red chilly pepper, HBWR.


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #18866925 - 09/20/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

dark3st said:
The MAOI part is understandable but everything else is not understandable nor logical. (Any part of the ritual that's not medically needed/required)

^thats what I should have started with lol




How is this not logical:
Quote:

tymoteusz3 said: And while the other items are not going to cause any physical change in how the ayahuasca interacts with him, it could very well cause a mental change. For example, since the psychedelic trip is so dependent on set and setting - then preparing for an entire week may cause him to have a richer experience than he would normally, or at least a different one.




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Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name

Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world?


There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K
Something abut that anaesthetic rush... :inlove:

Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences
The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine
The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: dark3st]
    #18866929 - 09/20/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Have you ever used Ayahuasca?


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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #18866937 - 09/20/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

tymoteusz3 said:
Quote:

dark3st said:
The MAOI part is understandable but everything else is not understandable nor logical. (Any part of the ritual that's not medically needed/required)

^thats what I should have started with lol




How is this not logical:
Quote:

tymoteusz3 said: And while the other items are not going to cause any physical change in how the ayahuasca interacts with him, it could very well cause a mental change. For example, since the psychedelic trip is so dependent on set and setting - then preparing for an entire week may cause him to have a richer experience than he would normally, or at least a different one.







Didn't say you, but the things being done.

And ya


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free dark P. Tampanensis prints to ODD members.

no stamps atm

FREE SEEDS for ODD WCA  members ONLY

I have these seeds:
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Re: Ayahuasca preperation help [Re: dark3st]
    #18866961 - 09/20/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I recommend following the diet the day of and day before if you can. I don't believe reversible MAOIs have fatal reactions with most foods but can certainly make the experience a little miserable. Everything else is just tradition though. Sexual abstinence and all that. Doesn't really matter. If you feel like following it for the thrill of experiencing the traditional ceremony then by all means... But let me tell you, a shaman who drinks this stuff multiple times a week/month is not never having sex with his wife the rest of his life...

I just suggest a lot of meditation. You really just want to walk in there with a clear head and no distractions or external stressors. Be fully committed to the experience. That's what all that's about imo. Recognizing the experience the week in advance


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