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First Grow (Harvest, second flush)
    #18866008 - 09/20/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Edit: This grow was actually started more recently than I thought, on 9/12/13, rather than 9/9/13 (give or take 2 days). Unfortunately my concept of time is not as good as I once thought, and am unsure of the accuracy of the times I provided in the original post as well as the first update. I'm not going to attempt to correct the times, other than the date in the first sentence, because I don't believe that they will be any more accurate.

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I am very excited to announce that on 9/12/13 I began my very first grow! I'm using the standard PF Tek, and don't have access to a PC so steam sterilization was used in place.

The preparation of the cake and the sterilization were done in a less-than laboratory grade living room and kitchen, with no fans on and all surfaces were frequently wiped with 90% iso alcohol, I was as careful as my wallet would allow.

I ran into some issues while sterilizing, I didn't keep a close enough eye on the 90 minutes of boiling, and the 3 pots (3 jars in 2 pots, 4 in the other) ran out of water. 7/10 of their jars became cracked when water was added into the pot a second time, and 5/10 jars are slightly burnt on the bottom, 2 were burnt/cracked so badly that were thrown out. 3/10 jars have no cracks, and no burns.


Note: I am very aware that the cracks could lead to contamination, and am keeping a very close eye on all cracked areas. If I suspect there may be signs of contamination, I will surely be seeking the guidance of a more "trained" eye.

Each jar was inoculated with roughly 1cc of Burma spores (.25cc - 4 holes), and set up in my closet to incubate. After 7 days, 1 jar was showing very slight mycelium growth, and all other jars were otherwise indifferent.

At this point I decided that my 65ish degree room may not be the best place to incubate cubies (even though its hard to sleep above 70 :frown: ), and borrowed my room mates space heater to make them a little more comfortable. The space heater is maybe 8x8x5 (inches), and quite a dusty sad looking box.. I was very skeptical about its effectiveness, but after leaving it on for 12 hours my room has gone from a chilly september feeling, to a humid july.

3 days after setting up the space heater, I have found growth in 3 more jars, and the original jar is growing 3x or 4x faster than before I got the heater. I even have my eye on a small spot on a 5th jar, and I'm hoping when I wake up in the morning I will find mycelium crawling out along the glass. :smile:



Both of these pictures are of my most colonized jar, and upon further inspection more mycelium was found today at another inoculation point. :smile:




I'm now very tired and going to sleep, but will return in the future to enjoy some other shroomery members and further discuss my new hobby.

UPDATE

A grand bonjour from KatuXiK! Several updates today, there was a lot of activity in the 20 hours that I was unable to check on my jars. There is 1 new jar showing mycelium, and the other 4 jars are really going crazy; especially the jar that had the quarter-sized colony, its grown by maybe 1/3 of its size!





They're so cool! I am a little worried though, what are those little red specks? Could they be metabolite or substrate showing through, or is it contamination?

On that same note, a couple jars have a foggy looking greyness on the bottom ring. The only jars that have it are cracked, and I'm pretty sure (although not 100%) that it was there immediately after sterilization. Here are some pics:





Is this a definite contamination, or could it be excess moisture/wet BRF? Or should I just keep an eye on it and take more pictures in a few days?

Still on the topic of contamination, I have a question regarding a small black speck in the center of a colony I've noticed on 2 jars; I'm almost 100% sure it's substrate because it's somewhat shiny, but I feel that 2 heads are better than one... or in this case 20 or 30.






There is also a foggyness (not grey, just foggy) to the right of the speckled colony on one jar, that I'm not nearly as sure about, so please do look at that. It is to the immediate right of the lens flair, almost touching it. You can see clearly above and below this small spot, so it seems strange. Any possibility its the beginnings of mycelium, or is it more likely mold/moisture?

Note: along the edge of the viewing window on the jar, you can see that the edges are blurred by the glasses pattern. This is apparently on both right and left sides of the jar.





Anyway, that's the entirety of today's update. I will be keeping an eye on this thread for any input the community so graciously grants me!


EDIT: As it turns out, no one here likes the use of SWIM, and my use of it was irrelevant anyway considering that I did not use a proxy server. SWIM is (obviously) and unavoidably me, so I have taken the time to remove SWIM and hopefully any resulting grammatical errors. I do hope you guys take a liking to me, I worked hard to make my post easier for you to read, and less irritating. Took me half an hour for this edit!
  :peace:


Edited by KatuXiK (10/24/13 02:52 AM)


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18866010 - 09/20/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You should tell SWIY to make their own account.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18866021 - 09/20/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No need for the swim here bud. We're cool :thumbup:


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: Stromrider]
    #18866046 - 09/20/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

SWIM has found himself getting more attention than he likes on several occasions, and would rather stay anonymous for the time being. Maybe he is a little be paranoid :rolleyes: SWIM greatly appreciates the reassurance though!


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18866057 - 09/20/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You should tell SWIY to make their own account.




You know what is way more irritating than someone saying a acronym?

Everyone making a big deal about nothing. It really grinds my gears.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: budmanman]
    #18869824 - 09/20/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bump for update, I read the rules and I'm pretty sure this doesn't break them, but if I missed something and it does, let me know!


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18869899 - 09/20/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

We're letting you know It's our own specific rule or pet peeve. While it doesn't break the rules, it does irritate us greatly.

Besides using SWIM doesn't hide the fact that the website logged your Ip address.

If you want solid advice, drop the acronym and half of us will be happy to assist.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: budmanman]
    #18869997 - 09/20/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

budmanman said:
Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
You should tell SWIY to make their own account.




You know what is way more irritating than someone saying a acronym?

Everyone making a big deal about nothing. It really grinds my gears.





I don't give a shit about your gears.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: maddchef]
    #18870087 - 09/20/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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We're letting you know It's our own specific rule or pet prevent. While it doesn't break the rules, it does irritate us greatly.

Besides using SWIM doesn't hide the fact that the website logged your Ip address.

If you want solid advice, drop the acronym and half of us will be happy to assist.



Yeah I spose that is something that would bother people, I'll keep it limited to emergencies, which I probably wont have.

And you're right, no point in SWIM when I neglected to use a proxy.

Anyway, hello shroomery, I'm KatuXiK, nice to meet you. :p


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18870121 - 09/20/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Step #2. Go get yourself a supporter account and you can view all this fungi funess through a SSL!

Step #3 Post more awesome picks of your Swims progress.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18870134 - 09/20/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's a lot of swimming :laugh2:


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: Sockadin]
    #18870412 - 09/21/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Step #2. Go get yourself a supporter account and you can view all this fungi funess through a SSL!

Step #3 Post more awesome picks of your Swims progress.



What is an SSL? I've never heard of that before.. And I hardly (did not) have enough money to start this grow, I can't really afford to donate to a site that I can use for free. :sad: But! What I can do is tell my friends to use this site, and until I can afford to up my account, that's what I'll have to do.

Also, because you said my shrooms are awesome, these are just for you. :mushroom2:



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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18875927 - 09/22/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Looks healthy so far.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: budmanman]
    #18878257 - 09/22/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I hope someone is watching this thread cause I've got a question; what should my level of concern be about the cracks in my jars? Has anyone else encountered this issue and still succeeded? Also - this seems like "Captain Obvious" territory - are these jars possibly reusable?

I thought that just based on my OP someone would say something about it, but I've bad no such luck obviously.

Thanks in advance! :mushroom2:

Edit: Thanks budmanman for the reassuring input. :smile: Kind of unrelated to the rest of this post, but I didn't want to double post.


Edited by KatuXiK (09/22/13 10:19 PM)


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18878457 - 09/22/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You should be fine with the cracked jars since it is Pf tek. Definately would not use them for grains, as smacking the cracked jar will cause it to shatter on your hand. If you plan on using them again before you sterilize them mark the crack with a sharpie and see if it grows after sterilization. I would look into buying new jars ASAP.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: SuperFly]
    #18878789 - 09/23/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So even the one that has the moister spot at the bottom should be alright? And yeah I don't really plan to reuse them, it was more of a "what if" curiosity type question.

Thanks!


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18879275 - 09/23/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ya it looks to be ok I don't see any Brf being exposed. From what it looks like mycelium already colonized that super cracked spot unless you are pointing out 2 different pictures. Be careful as you are trying to get the cakes out of those.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: SuperFly]
    #18879382 - 09/23/13 06:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I definitely would not re-use them for brf cakes. Not only are they cracked but they are also the wrong type of jars. They will work sometimes for some people but a lot of people have problems with them getting stalled on the bottom. The substrate gets packed too tight on the bottom and it is also difficult for the mycelium to get proper gas exchange in those tall jars. If you put the substrate in them very very loose then they will probably not stall on the bottom. Next time use the short fat wide mouth half pint jars for brf cakes. You will see much faster colonization times and better performance. I tried both types of jars when I was doing cakes and was amazed at how much faster the short wide mouth jars colonized. The tall ones took a little over a month (on average) and the short ones took 2 to 3 weeks (on average) These times can vary quite a bit with different genetics. Anyway I am rambling now so good luck to you and keep us posted on your progress :goodluck:


P.S.  A lot of people have trouble finding the short wide mouth half pint jars. They are made by kerr and can be found at Ace Hardware stores and Amazon.com


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: Stromrider]
    #18879470 - 09/23/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea the tall jars are a couple weeks behind the wide mouthed jars IME.  My first cakes took forever.  Also getting the cakes out of those jars is stupid.  I have to get a knife and lever the cake out. I had had several flushes off of rye before my cakes were even done.  Using fresh spores you can have the short fat jars colonize quick.

I know what its like being broke though and spending money on shit sucks, but you have to buy new jars anyways if there are cracks. Try to get the wide mouthed jars.  Which can be a serious PITA in and of itself also.


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Edited by PrinceShroom (09/23/13 07:27 AM)


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18879808 - 09/23/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here you go Kat check this out. It is very good stuff. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: SuperFly]
    #18880014 - 09/23/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Okay so short and fat is what I want next time around, good to know! These were the only jars I could find, but admittedly I didn't look very hard, saw half pint and was satisfied. So what do I do if my jars stall? Do I birth and just removed the un-colonized area?

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TheMrMACdaddy said:
Ya it looks to be ok I don't see any Brf being exposed. From what it looks like mycelium already colonized that super cracked spot unless you are pointing out 2 different pictures. Be careful as you are trying to get the cakes out of those.



The super cracked spot on the bottom with the blurry grey stuff around it. I dont think its mycelium because its not brilliantly white and looks drasticly different from any mycelium in my jars. It also doesn't look like mold to me, more like if you very lightly sprinkled flour on a tray and misted it with water.. it looks pasty. It also hasn't grown at all since I've started keeping an eye on it.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18880027 - 09/23/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can try to take out the colonized part and birth it.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18880086 - 09/23/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Have you smelled the cracked jar?


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: SuperFly]
    #18880281 - 09/23/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Like opened it and sniffed it? Or do you mean just smell the top where the inoculation wholes are?


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18880434 - 09/23/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just smell through the top of the inoculation holes. If something bad is happening inside the jars you should be able to smell it. Try not to disturb the verm though


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: SuperFly]
    #18880540 - 09/23/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I havent noticed any type of strange smell coming from the couple jars that have that, but I'll double check when i get home.


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18880583 - 09/23/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lahey:
Nice you should be fine then. If you think that jar has stalled outline the mycelium with a sharpie then forget about it for a couple days. See if the mycelium crossed the border lol


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Re: First Grow :) [Re: SuperFly]
    #18882731 - 09/23/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks man, I'll give that a try if I feel the need. Right now the growth is RAPID. If I look in my closet in 6-12 hour intervals, I usually notice some growth at a glance, but that's only because 2 inoculation points are currently growing into each other on one jar, and the gap is almost closed. The others aren't nearly as obvious, but some growth is still quite rapidly noticeable.

My hope and prayer is that these guys are pinning before halloween, might be a stretch, but I can still hope!


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18886269 - 09/24/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

UPDATE 9/24/13
Just some new pictures of how the guys are doing. Still only at 5 jars, hoping the last 3 pick up the pace.



Edited by KatuXiK (09/24/13 07:08 PM)


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18886291 - 09/24/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: Stromrider]
    #18899683 - 09/27/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I've noticed that some of the mycelium in my jars is very "root" like (rhizomorphic right?) and some of it is extremely fluffy, while still having that "root" look just at the edges, just a lot fuzzier and smaller roots. Should also say the fluffier stuff is very brilliant white, more so than the less fluffy stuff, but that seems to be mostly cause I can see more substrate through the more rhizomorphic mycelium.

To me it all looks healthy, but I don't know what trich or cobweb look like, and I've heard they get confused sometimes. I'd put up pictures, but it all looks pretty much the same with my camera.


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18899815 - 09/27/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

With multispore inoculation it is common to get different looking myc


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: Stromrider]
    #18900085 - 09/27/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh alright good to know, I should be alright then. There is nothing that looks *drastically* different, but it's noticeable. Anyway thanks for the insight, and I'll keep an eye on it of course.


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18909867 - 09/30/13 03:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

These are the latest pictures, 1 jar at 85% growth, the other 4 between 40%-75%. Only got a few pictures this time because there really isn't that much to update, aside from the fact that they're not dead yet. Also I noticed some reddish substrate on the bottom of 1 jar, but I'm 95% sure it's burnt, as I had 2 jars that were burned black on the bottom (tossed) and were reddish around the edge of the burn.

Anyway here is one jar, the guy at 85%. This line was drawn 48 hours ago (give or take 5 hours).


Here is another guy that has kind of a yellowish tinge near the center, hard to see in the picture. It's so hard to notice, I've got to wonder if it's the lighting in my room or if it's real.


Anyway, there you have it, all the excitement of September 30th wrapped up in this post.

Cheers!


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18909975 - 09/30/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Fun to watch. I am glad for you that your almost there. I have to say, make sure and smell your jars when it is time to birth them. The look like there is a little to much moisture in them and that might be the cause of the slow colonization. I like to make my jars a bit on the dryer side, and then rehydrate the mycelium once it has completely colonized the jar. I use the Dunk and Roll technique to get the moisture back in the cake.

  Also I have had great success with those jars. I agree with psillyshroomer however that colonization time can be genetic dependent.

  And I have to disagree with Princeshroom. I would not take it out of the jar until it is 100% colonized. It will end in disaster is you birth before the mycelium is done eating all the exposed food.


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: Sockadin]
    #18910079 - 09/30/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Fun to watch. I am glad for you that your almost there. I have to say, make sure and smell your jars when it is time to birth them. The look like there is a little to much moisture in them and that might be the cause of the slow colonization. I like to make my jars a bit on the dryer side, and then rehydrate the mycelium once it has completely colonized the jar. I use the Dunk and Roll technique to get the moisture back in the cake.

  Also I have had great success with those jars. I agree with psillyshroomer however that colonization time can be genetic dependent.

  And I have to disagree with Princeshroom. I would not take it out of the jar until it is 100% colonized. It will end in disaster is you birth before the mycelium is done eating all the exposed food.



I get pretty excited every time I look in my closet, cannot wait for these guys to be done! And I've sniffed the inoc holes on all 5 jars, no funky smells (or any smell really) from them, but I'll definitely take a good whiff when they're birthed. Also as far as the moisture goes, I've never done this before so I just went with the standard 2:1:1, however 4/5 of the jars with growth are cracked, so a couple of them really do have extra moisture. So far no signs of contaminants though.

I'm actually thinking about crushing these up and spawning them to coir/verm if I can figure out what my chances of success are, so far the only reason against it that I've heard is "cakes aren't the best to spawn" which doesn't seem very concrete to me, unless there is a reason I'm not finding. If I have the option to add 2-3 weeks onto my grow in order to have a much better yield, I think that's what I'd like to do. Here's the idea that I'm thinking of, and I've still got probably another 10 days before the first cake will be ready to birth, so I will definitely be reading up on spawning.

Oh also about Princeshroom's comment, we were talking about in the event of a stall, so that would seem to make sense to me.

Cheers!

Edit: I think I might have a contam, one jar is definitely not brilliantly white in the center, but very rhizo and super white where its grown out. There is like a quarter sized area that's tinged, you can see it in the above post. I just decided to look at it next to might healthiest jar, and it's a pretty significant difference. I don't have anywhere to isolate it unfortunately, so It's just on a different shelf in my closet..


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18910093 - 09/30/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

For your first time I would just fruit them as cakes in a sgfc. That way your nearly guaranteed some shrooms plus you can get your first mushrooms grown and after that you will be much more patient with them. Also fruiting cakes in a sgfc teaches you a lot about the needs of these mushrooms. You could go ahead and noc you up some grain jars to do bulk with.  :2cents:


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    #18920266 - 10/02/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Part of my impatience and desire to spawn this to bulk is because right now I don't have any more spores, nor do I have the money for them or for a PC, so I wanted to get a large enough yield that I can enjoy it for a little while. However, I've read that popcorn can be steam sterilized, and if that is the case, then maybe I could attempt an LC or cardboard TEK for cloning from my BRF jars and do a transfer to the popcorn?

Also, being that I've only got 5 jars, about how much of a yield would be the average?

Also, how long does my account need to be active to access the market place? Don't remember where I read about it, but it's 30 days or something right?


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18920766 - 10/02/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Alright, got my very first contam! WOO! One of my 3 jars that didn't colonize has a nice orange blob growing on the bottom, and I'm not sure I've ever smelled something quite so rancid. I wasn't sure what I was supposed to be looking for as far as smell goes, so I gave the holes in the lid a good strong wiff.. and then I gagged and wasn't so happy I'd taken such a big sniff. It's in one of the cracked jars, so I'm assuming its safe to just toss it in the trash bin outside without dumping it or anything?


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Re: First Grow (Log plus questions) [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18944444 - 10/07/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Currently have 3 jars at 100% and 2 jars getting very close. 1 jar has a spot on the bottom I'm a little worried about, but there are no signs of smell, growth of the potential contam (hasn't grown at all still, just foggy greyness on the bottom where I first noticed it), and no signs of metabolites.

Don't really have any interesting pic's to put up today.

Also, what does primordia/hyphal knots look like? I have a couple spots in the 100% jars that look like little cotton balls on top the mycelium, am I right in identifying that as primordia, or is it more likely nothing?


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    #18944555 - 10/07/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Knots & pins.




Not sure about cotton ball looking mycelium. Knots look like little white dots. You can see them above in the photo.

Good luck :smile:


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    #18944644 - 10/07/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's sorta how it looks! Much less of it and in a jar, but sweet! Ty man :laugh:


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    #18958938 - 10/10/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

WE HAVE SHROOMS!

I'm so excited guys! All this waiting and wondering and they're finally here! :nyan:

I broke my phone last night so I'm really sorry I cant put pictures up, but I've got a little pin in one of my jars, he's so cute! I also don't have a fruiting chamber right now, and cant get one for 2 more days, is this guy gonna be alright?


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    #18982980 - 10/15/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

After all this time, pin porn!



They got a little bruised when I popped them out of the jars, truth be told I think I actually should've birthed them a couple days sooner. But everything is looking good! There are a ton more, but I don't want to handle the cakes to much and this camera is no where near good enough to capture many of them. Anyway, finally an update on this! :laugh:


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    #18985920 - 10/16/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm back with another round of pics, these ones turned out much better! Pins are way bigger today, looking sexy as hell.




I'll probably getting a better camera when I get paid next, just found out my account is at $0.00, so this is the picture quality I'm stuck with for a while. Also, anyone mind sending some groceries my way? :P


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    #18986013 - 10/16/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry to back track but if money is an issue I've used the 1/2 pint ziplock plastic food storage containers much cheaper just make sure they are pp5 and the round ones you can find them at almost any grocery store


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    #18986025 - 10/16/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wait what? You used plastic containers to do brf cakes? Wouldn't they melt? And I'm only out of money for 6 more days, was really just a joke. :P


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    #18986118 - 10/16/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No they dont melt just make sure the recycle symbol on the bottom says pp5 they work great!!!


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    #18986205 - 10/16/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's awesome! I'm probably gonna get some pint jars and a large pot to fractional sterilize some popcorn though for my next grow. I've got the agar plates started right now, just need to get the popcorn, jars, and the pot. :P


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    #19023472 - 10/24/13 03:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

UPDATE
I had my first harvest on saturday, munched about 8 grams of fresh mushy and had myself a wonderful 6 hour experience. Here are some pictures:

I ran into an extremely uncomfortable come up and found myself preparing for another trip to hell, and right at about an hour and a half, the euphoria licked my brain and the heavy body high/ominous visuals were swept away and I was suddenly light as a feather, while my surroundings sparkled and transformed (mostly in the peripherals). I wont do a report here, but this grow has been so incredibly worth it!

Unfortunately my fruits were pretty small and my pin sets mostly aborted, but a lesson is learned from this; I think I was over misting my cakes, or rather not fanning enough after misting. I've done some research and found that if you mist again before all the water on the mushrooms evaporates, it can cause them to abort. Perhaps this is the same reason that my fruits opened their caps at such a small size. The veils appeared and broke in less than 24 hours; I'm not sure if that is abnormal, but it was extremely surprising for me.

Fortunately (sort of) that was only 3 of the cakes, the other two are currently each producing a single mushroom, one of which is looking to be (hopefully) quite large. I'm a little worried though, as one of the caps seems to be turning greenish, although I'm nearly positive that it's bruising, because it gets more pronounced immediately after (I mist with a very fine mist, from 8-12 inches above the cakes). In the chance that it is mold though, I have produced these pictures, but i still don't have a very good camera, so I'm not sure you'll be able to see much.

These look fairly healthy to me, but I'm on my first grow and honestly do not know what I'm looking for.

I've got the 3 cakes that have been dunked (during which they produced a beautiful pin set) and are currently in a smaller SGFC, just in case that mushroom is in fact molded. If it is I will be baking the perilite, washing the SGFC with 10/90-bleach/water and sacrificing those cakes outside somewhere (maybe the local park). After which of course the 3 healthy cakes will be put back into the more ideal terrarium.

Also, just because I'm excited about it and it's mildly relevant, my new pipe!  :happyweed:


Another mildly relevant thing, after my trip on saturday, and my attempt at a trip on monday, I've been getting some really interesting thought patterns, and very unique visuals when I smoke large amounts of mariujana. Just now I was watching some Aztec or Mayan figures dance, run, and fight, and also some geometric patterns, playing across my grey wall. All of these things were completely grey, but somehow contained other colors that were definitely there, but I didn't exactly "see" them. Very wonderful enhancements to an already delightful herb. Is this normal? Or am I most likely just smoking abnormally large amounts of pot?

Anywhoo, that's it for today!


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    #19030659 - 10/25/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So any idea if that pin is healthy? I'm still worried about it, thought the green doesn't seem to be spreading, just darkening.


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